KQM | Genshin Impact - dashing-off-a-cliff-speed-comparison

Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 12, 2021 6:59 PM

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electro > pyroApr 12, 2021 7:06 PM

Finding: Dashing off a cliff velocity hierarchy is adult male > adolescent boy > baby female > adult female > adolescent female

Evidence: 5 video tests, one per model. Test consisted of placing a portable teleporter on one of the roofs in Mondstadt and just tapping "dash" after teleporting to it. Images will represent Diona's position after character death (since she's the first slot in party).

1. Adult Male

2. Adolescent male

3. Baby female

4. Adult Female

5. Adolescent Female

^ above are images, now videos showing the evidence

1. Video - Adult male

2. Video - Adolescent male

3. Video - Baby female

4. Video - Adult female

5. Video - Adolescent female

Significance: Might help when deciding in overworld traveling which character would be best to dash off a cliff with (for example the fact that baby female is faster than other females is rather unknown)

Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 12, 2021 7:07 PM

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Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 13, 2021 12:35 AM

Ticket Opened by @Zajef - TF Bennett aficionado

Zajef - TF Bennett aficionadoApr 13, 2021 12:36 AM

Have you considered the possibility that velocity during a dash is variable, and since you can get off the cliff at a different portion of the dash depending on body type, it might be affecting the results?

Ideally, I'd like to see footage of the same test being done from multiple distances away from the edge

electro > pyroApr 13, 2021 3:14 PM

I noticed that when you're on Kaeya and you're very close to the dashable cliff, you won't dash off so I could include that as well

I'll try dashing from different distances

electro > pyroApr 13, 2021 10:51 PM

actually I don't have an access to dev client and apparnetly it's capable for showing XYZ velocity if I wanted it to be as reliable as possible gonna do the above by using same position but moving just a bit and then making another teleporter along with raw video (in the upcoming week (so before 20th of April) tho because I don't have enough time right now) EDIT: (2021-04-20) - I made raw test footage showing all body types from 9 different distances - currently making the timestamps to further make screenshots showing distances(edited)

xf3Apr 25, 2021 2:26 AM

@electro > pyro what is the progress on the timestamping?

electro > pyroApr 25, 2021 8:43 PM

Sorry, I've been absolutely busy lately. The test consists of generally uniform land with 9 different teleporter positions (each done diona W double taps afar, last one is a single). Tested models: Diluc / Qiqi / Bennett / Sucrose / Ningguang Timestamps are included inside the video. I'll start making the start/end screenshot positions though idk the ETA of when I'm done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2km0PDWnVA

Mcpie

Dashing-off a cliff testing

First set: 0:03 - 0:23 - Diluc 0:27 - 0:52 - Qiqi 1:00 - 1:27 - Bennett 1:33 - 1:45 - Party Swap 1:53 - 2:18 - Sucrose 2:24 - 2:54 - Ningguang 3:20 - 3:41 - Teleporter - 2nd set 3:41 - 4:33 - party swap + healing 4:35 - 4:56 - Diluc 5:02 - 5:28 - Qiqi 5:34 - 5:58 - Bennett 6:03 - 6:16 - Party Swap 6:24 - 6:47 - Sucrose 6:53 - 7:17 - Ningguang ...

electro > pyroApr 25, 2021 10:33 PM

Images, categorized by character and whether it's a start or end

Attachment: images.7z (50049483 B)

I'll make a side by side comparison for each character soonish

electro > pyroApr 25, 2021 10:55 PM

side-by-side

Attachment: side-by-side.7z (27103691 B)

^ example screenshot, i'll have to make a mockup of where every position starts and ends just so that there's a summary of 5 images for each body type

electro > pyroApr 25, 2021 11:21 PM

do you think this is okay for making comparisons?

cause i cannot point camera right above me so an angle is bound to be there

xf3Apr 26, 2021 2:12 AM

Just try your best, looks fine

electro > pyroApr 26, 2021 2:28 AM

gonna work on this tomorrow, but yea, distance matters a lot (9 positions for qiqi)

Ayzel | KAZUHA SURASSHUMay 1, 2021 12:34 AM

@electro > pyro do you know when this will be finished?

electro > pyroMay 3, 2021 3:04 PM

I'll try to get this done in the next 8 hours, I've just been extremely busy as of late :/

electro > pyroMay 6, 2021 9:50 PM

Finding: Position at which you start dashing off a cliff reflects the landing position in non-linear fashion, which might mean that velocity at which you launch your character is dependant on your current velocity in dash animation. Assuming you're not very far nor very close to the cliff, the ranking would be: 1. Adult Male 2. Adolescent Male 3. Baby Female 4. Adult Female 5. Adolescent Female Evidence: Test consists of 9 different positions next to a "launchable" cliff, each of them separate by two single 'taps' forward using Diona (except for the last #9 which is a single tap due to not enough space). After marking both the starting and landing position of each character, it is clear that dash-off velocity is not linear and could reflect your character's velocity at the moment it loses it's ground. Comparison from top (screenshots) for each position - https://imgur.com/a/Sr311lx Comparison by position - https://imgur.com/a/9kHirR3 Comparison by character - https://imgur.com/a/XZu1Qni Raw video (timestamps in description) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2km0PDWnVA Results depending on position:

1: Diluc -> Bennett -> Ningguang -> Qiqi -> Sucrose 2: Diluc -> Bennett -> Ningguang -> Sucrose -> Qiqi 3: Diluc -> Bennett -> Ningguang -> Sucrose -> Qiqi 4: Diluc -> Bennett -> Qiqi -> Ningguang -> Sucrose 5: Diluc -> Bennett -> Qiqi -> Ningguang -> Sucrose 6: Diluc -> Bennett -> Qiqi -> Ningguang -> Sucrose 7: Diluc -> Bennett -> Ningguang | Qiqi -> Sucrose 8: Diluc -> Qiqi -> Ningguang -> Bennett -> Sucrose 9: Diluc -> Ningguang -> Sucrose -> Bennett -> Qiqi

Significance: Might help when deciding in overworld traveling which character would be best to dash off a cliff with depending on your position from the cliff.(edited)

Dashing comparison - from top

Dashing comparison - by position

Dashing comparison - by character

Mcpie

Dashing-off a cliff testing

guess that's ready

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Holy Skeletal Fighting MarshalMay 8, 2021 8:05 AM

1. Adult Male

2. Adolescent Male

3. Baby Female

4. Adult Female

5. Adolescent Female

this explains why, despite visually having similar character heights, teen female models can't initiate dash-jump-plunge on flat surface against vast majority of enemies while teen male models can. interesting