Server: KQM | Genshin Impact (763583452762734592) Channel: venti-autoattack-after-skill-faster-switching (834085780611137607) Messages: 73 Yuehai Ticketing Secretary#4843 (557628352828014614) Sai || is stupid#3215 (421450585439600646) Yeptunya | 47k ZL#2838 (555981891300491274) Ayzel#7399 (276182497145126912) electro > pyro#8672 (198738007388454912) Mono$INVEST₼CRYOARCHONKAEYA#8058 (154004693826273280) xf3 | dead until monday#3123 (141941251350986752) cocorat (denmax)#9293 (140866779894251520) Charliex3000 | Non whale Charlie#9403 (294576257448804352) KQM | Genshin Impact - venti-autoattack-after-skill-faster-switching
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Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 20, 2021 3:19 PM
@Sai || is stupid, As an author, it is your sole responsibility to complete this ticket. - Any assistance provided by other users should be taken constructively - Disrespectful behavior will not be tolerated - When done, type $close
Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or Youtube/Imgur proofs Significance: Conclusion
Sai || is stupidApr 20, 2021 3:21 PM
Finding: Doing an auto attack as soon as possible after using Venti's e allows the user to swap to a different character faster. Evidence: video below Significance: idk how to write proper stuff tbh but you save some time i guess
idk if i did it really well in that example
Yeptunya | 47k ZLApr 20, 2021 3:22 PM
Gets the point across
Sai || is stupidApr 20, 2021 3:22 PM
but faster switch off + extra aa means more dmg from main dps and also you can proc viridescent hunt(edited)
AyzelApr 20, 2021 8:17 PM
wonder if anyone could do some framecounting to see exactly how much faster this is
Sai || is stupidApr 20, 2021 10:01 PM
this is the fastest switch i could get
why is a 7 second clip 10 mb
who cares
i can try framecounting except i have to learn how to do it kleeHHAHa
electro > pyroApr 20, 2021 10:27 PM
if you download mpv you can just go frame by frame and count them yourself since there is no hitlag(edited)
from your clip, counting from start of casting: 1st frame - start of casting 12th frame - cooldown appears 13th frame - bow appears 19th frame - ganyu appears 22nd frame - bow appears on ganyu idk why but, frames #17 and #18 are the same, probably ghosting, or you hit something with venti E that I do not see(edited)
Sai || is stupidApr 20, 2021 10:38 PM
my game is at 30 frames
pretty sure windows should also be recording at 30
that might change something
electro > pyroApr 20, 2021 10:46 PM
2.786 - start of casting 3.486 - bow appears on ganyu = 0.7s for 22 frames - still pretty fast(edited)
Sai || is stupidApr 21, 2021 2:29 PM
you can actually cancel really early
@Sai || is stupid if you have nothing else to add to this ticket i'd close it for review
Sai || is stupidApr 25, 2021 12:33 PM
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 25, 2021 12:33 PM
Ticket Closed by @Sai || is stupid
xf3 | dead until mondayApr 25, 2021 7:53 PM
verified finding + significance(edited)
AyzelApr 25, 2021 7:59 PM
For me to give this my stamp of approval, I'd like the following things if you would be able to do it: 1] frame count of how long it would normally take to switch (the moment venti's skill starts -> ganyu's bow appears in her hand) 2] frame count of how long it takes to switch, if you do this cancel (same as previous). I know that @electro > pyro did a frame count for you of the cancel tech, but I think, in order to show significance, we should say exactly how much time this tech saves, which means we also need a frame count for normal switching.
If you're unable to do this because your game runs at 30fps, we can pass this to someone else
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 25, 2021 8:17 PM
Ticket Opened by @xf3 | dead until monday
AyzelApr 25, 2021 8:17 PM
oop forgot to open lol
thanks @xf3 | dead until monday
AyzelApr 26, 2021 9:41 PM
@Sai || is stupid pinging for visibility
Sai || is stupidApr 26, 2021 9:41 PM
i can run at 60 but obs still records at 30 and windows records at 30 as well
AyzelApr 26, 2021 9:41 PM
can your OBS not record at 60?(edited)
Sai || is stupidApr 26, 2021 9:41 PM
probably some setting
AyzelApr 26, 2021 9:43 PM
I know you can change it because my OBS records at 60
probably just search it up on google
Sai || is stupidApr 26, 2021 9:43 PM
ok i got it to work
i'll just make a macro real quick so that it changes characters as quickly as possible
AyzelApr 26, 2021 9:44 PM
Sai || is stupidApr 26, 2021 9:47 PM
thing is the only reason ganyu's bow appears in her hand from the fast switch is because i'm using an autoclicker
if i try and get ganyu's bow to appear in her hand using the slow switch while also making sure it's slow i'd have to know when it switched
i'll probably just check to when the character appears since it's not like the cancel changes the amount of time it takes for the bow to appear anyways
AyzelApr 26, 2021 9:48 PM
Sai || is stupidApr 26, 2021 10:08 PM
ok something is fucked up because parts of the video are clearly at 60fps and yet some parts repeat a frame
definitely not hitlag because i'm turning the camera and the entire screen freezes
maybe my computer is so bad it just skips rendering some frames
or maybe it's my video editor idk
it says 60fps
Sai || is stupidApr 26, 2021 10:47 PM
i give up
AyzelApr 26, 2021 11:11 PM
cocorat (denmax)May 1, 2021 6:55 AM
So, does that mean you can't finish up Ayzel's requests @Sai || is stupid ?
Sai || is stupidMay 1, 2021 1:24 PM
probably not Sadge
cocorat (denmax)May 2, 2021 7:43 AM
What do you think @Ayzel ? Who's our frame expert? keqingderp If no one can take this ticket, we might have to nuke it for the time being
AyzelMay 2, 2021 7:44 AM
let me check contact list
contact list coming in handy here
mono, arte, zanto, zeit, and fluffy are marked as "very knowledgeable" or "expert"
not sure if any of them would be willing to help tho
I can try to frame count my own clips
Charliex3000 | Non whale CharlieMay 12, 2021 6:57 PM
I'm not sure if I spammed swap fast enough
I feel like the swap took way too long in my clip
it seems like you can save a whole second doing this(edited)
Charliex3000 | Non whale CharlieMay 13, 2021 2:43 PM
@Ayzel , does this work?
Charliex3000 | Non whale CharlieMay 13, 2021 4:08 PM
@Sai || is stupid, is this good enough for me to close the ticket?
Sai || is stupidMay 13, 2021 4:28 PM
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTMay 13, 2021 6:07 PM
Ticket Closed by @Charliex3000 | Non whale Charlie
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xf3 | dead until mondayMay 14, 2021 6:00 AM
verified again now that we have frame counts
AyzelMay 15, 2021 10:25 PM
moving to publishing
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTMay 23, 2021 1:11 AM
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