KQM | Genshin Impact - noelle-c4-ds

Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTApr 30, 2021 8:21 AM

@Tarcc - Dragon Strike Anomalies As an author, It is your responsibility to complete the ticket - Take advice constructively - NO disrespectful behavior - The ticket will be scrapped if: No activity > 1 week or open for > 1 mo. - When done, type $close

Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or Youtube/Imgur proofs Significance: Conclusion

Edison | 11-3-2 can go fk offApr 30, 2021 8:27 AM

Very cool didn't know about this Does it matter at what height you are at when the shield breaks? @Tarcc ?(edited)

TarccApr 30, 2021 8:34 AM

it is extremely specific for when the shield breaks to allow for DS, essentially it needs to meet up perfectly with when you plan to try for it

unfortunately, the shield break needs to occur at the same time where you are close to your maximum jump height for an attempted dragon strike. With the hitstun of the shield break DS will work, but without the speed boost, but you are unable to perform anything past that.(edited)

Edison | 11-3-2 can go fk offApr 30, 2021 8:35 AM

And the 15.8 to 15.4s CD is roughly where it's semi reliable?(edited)

DS a bit complex for my dumb af brain

TarccApr 30, 2021 8:35 AM

I was unable to find something truly consistent, but if you are willing to attempt something with such absurd unlikelyhood of working, yes it will work(edited)

INVEST₼CLOSEYOURFUCKINGTICKETSApr 30, 2021 8:39 AM

Aight

If you could label your first post with Finding, Evidence, Significance

This ticket can be closed

Editors will review later and reopen if there are issues

TarccApr 30, 2021 8:47 AM

whoops, I apparently forgot that

uhh one second

Finding: What I have found is that you need to have either frame perfect DS timing, or you need a 10%+ speed bonus from either Diona ascension, Jean C2, or 2 player anemo unit synergy to reach consistent DS. I have also found that the instance of a shield break from C4 Noelle can also elongate the amount of time you have to do a proper DS. This is exceptionally difficult to pull off. Standard Dragon Strike: https://youtu.be/3Xi0SwmyrO8 what this shows is how DS is able to be consistent with a speed bonus. In my case I happened to use my C2 jean to DS. But this is not needed for DS. Evidence: Outside of this however, I found that it is not necessarily movement speed. While it allows for much easier and consistent DS performance, and considering this interaction I also realized something further. Weird Dragon Strike: https://youtu.be/uJs2IgQzv_k What I had found is that the hitstun of the shield breaking(noelle c4) can allow something that would normally be frame perfect to perform a DS(without a speed bonus of any kind), Even when it is not frame perfect. The timing for this was from finding that when you E on Noelle she gets a shield on a 24 seconds CD. I waited for her to reach roughly 15.8 to 15.4 on the CD when I start the combo(end on the 4th hit with a jump DS). This is incredibly specific and hard to pull off consistently. (varies between users) Significance: this is significant because this could potentially apply to any shields that break and deal damage on break, but further than that, any timed breaks or timed damage instances could change how the game is played. This is an unexplored avenue and could be interesting.(edited)

Tarcc Tarcc

Normal DS vid

look at it bruh