KQM | Genshin Impact - mona-omen-and-c1-mechanics

Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTMay 6, 2021 11:15 PM

@Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe Simp - Mona omen additive or multiplicative and C1 testing As an author, It is your responsibility to complete the ticket - Take advice constructively - NO disrespectful behavior - The ticket will be scrapped if: No activity > 1 week or open for > 1 mo. - When done, type $close

Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or Youtube/Imgur proofs Significance: Conclusion

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 6, 2021 11:16 PM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FqKRAeS7TJbLSwYAXGGuKSlJ2pc2GWJ-uX2QOWR22dU/edit#gid=420155067

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Greyhound | Cryo SalesmanMay 6, 2021 11:18 PM

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 6, 2021 11:19 PM

my bad, its just baseline shit

Greyhound | Cryo SalesmanMay 6, 2021 11:19 PM

ye just letting you know

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 6, 2021 11:19 PM

should work now

Greyhound | Cryo SalesmanMay 6, 2021 11:22 PM

works

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 7, 2021 12:17 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oucLYZk31m4&ab_channel=SteveBob

Steve Bob

Omen C1 vape testing

Spreadsheet with all expected damage numbers- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FqKRAeS7TJbLSwYAXGGuKSlJ2pc2GWJ-uX2QOWR22dU/edit#gid=420155067

so i think this proves omen is additive, and the 15% from C1 acts just like having 80 EM.

just need to upload the clip with C1 and 80 EM and i think that wraps it up

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 7, 2021 12:50 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3kdQy7Lb8&ab_channel=SteveBob

Steve Bob

Omen C1 Vape testing with 80EM

Spreadsheet with all expected damage number -https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FqKRAeS7TJbLSwYAXGGuKSlJ2pc2GWJ-uX2QOWR22dU/edit#gid=420155067

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 7, 2021 12:59 AM

@Nep, Sustainer of Heavenly TCL sorry to bother you but in the theory hunt when you say C1 is multiplicative are you asking to prove if it is included with the multiplicative EM bonus like: atk * (dmg%) *(EM+C1) as opposed to: atk * (dmg% +C1) *(EM)(edited)

Nep, Sustainer of Heavenly TCLMay 7, 2021 1:25 AM

uhhh

whichever one accurately represents how the game calculates it

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 7, 2021 1:26 AM

ok, the 15% from C1 is additive with EM just like 4CW or your first 80 EM. thanks

Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe SimpMay 7, 2021 2:08 AM

Finding: Omen damage% bonus is additive with other damage% bonuses and the C1 bonus is additive with EM reaction bonuses Evidence: using the damage formula the expected damage of attacks under certain conditions was calculated for both scenarios, if Omen DMG% was multiplicative or additive: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FqKRAeS7TJbLSwYAXGGuKSlJ2pc2GWJ-uX2QOWR22dU/edit#gid=420155067 These values were tested in game versus a ruin guard with and without omen to prove the formula was correctly used. All damage numbers found were in line with the omen DMG% being additive and not multiplicative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oucLYZk31m4&ab_channel=SteveBob similarly, the value of vaporize reactions were calculated assuming the reaction bonus from Mona C1 is additive with EM reaction bonuses and tested with and without C1 active and EM to show C1 is additive with EM reaction bonuses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3kdQy7Lb8&ab_channel=SteveBob testing with C1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfs7ik9GnXg&ab_channel=SteveBob testing without C1 active significance: properly understanding how Omen and C1 effect damage and the damage of reactions respectively

Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTMay 7, 2021 2:14 AM

Ticket Closed by @Kgbeast │Shenli/Shenhe Simp