KQM | Genshin Impact - high-ping-interactions

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 3:41 AM

look up fandom

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 5:28 AM

huh i got my videos removed form streamable

oh nvm its just smtg trivial

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 6:33 AM

https://youtu.be/xCI7DT1HeLo

sigurdMay 9, 2021 6:47 AM

No infinite shield

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 6:54 AM

very saddening

https://youtu.be/g59G-cOP_2s 4pc vv

https://youtu.be/m-eWeZxdjcE

Y Herng Tham

4pc vv number check

cryo number check

4pc vv works

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 7:02 AM

welp i got nothing out of the ruin guard from ec plunges

could be ping playing with their ai

sigurdMay 9, 2021 7:12 AM

Electro charged plunges?

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 7:12 AM

xiao bei lisa xq

they break poise very fast

sigurdMay 9, 2021 7:15 AM

Is Xiao’s plunge a air type of stagger?

Can’t find

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 7:15 AM

well plunges all have high poise dmg

sigurdMay 9, 2021 7:16 AM

Flying ruin guards

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 7:17 AM

if ruin guards get staggered

theyll sit up and down over and over

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Interruption_Resistance#Poise_and_Poise_Damage

Interruption Resistance

Interruption Resistance | Genshin Impact Wiki | Fandom

sigurdMay 9, 2021 7:18 AM

Which section should I be referring to

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 7:18 AM

all

sigurdMay 9, 2021 7:19 AM

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 1:05 PM

the day after tmr i'll be much more free and i'll try and mess with every character and see if icd gets fucked with like XQ's

Some ProselytizerMay 9, 2021 5:33 PM

hitbox could be tested too

Some ProselytizerMay 10, 2021 4:21 PM

weapon hit icd for weapons with multi hit passives such as pike halberd

Some ProselytizerMay 11, 2021 5:32 AM

aight ive asked some questions and got some stuff albeit not very useful but i learnt smtg but for today i'll have to finish up all my hw first

will continue progress on this ticket tmr

or the day after tmr

Some ProselytizerMay 13, 2021 10:26 AM

aight im done with all the stuff, i'll reorganize the ticket again and plan out what needs to be tested on and continue on testing tmr

Some ProselytizerMay 13, 2021 11:04 AM

10. Healing 11. Shields Diona shield: https://youtu.be/xCI7DT1HeLo

Conclusion: Shields works normally under high ping

12. Poise (Enemy) Cincin mage and slimes: high ping: https://streamable.com/wyxgd7(edited)

@sigurd mind uploading your vids to yt? the streamables are deleted alrd

also u wont need to show stats

just xqiu E orbitals, dont use Q and benny E without Q buff so that'll be more consistent and easier and lesser factors

and id recommend just testing it on the ruin guard in thousand winds so theres a hp bar to cross check with elemental reactions working and updating on the clients side

just take a vid of you doing vape in low ping and one in high ping and it should suffice, 100% crit so itll be consistent

i'll get OL dmg myself

Some ProselytizerMay 13, 2021 11:40 AM

Might need you to retake SC as well since the debuff wasnt applied under high ping, it was done before

try using fish aim shot and kaeya to superconduct

i wonder if buffs keep stacking on and on if server doesnt get updated

Some ProselytizerMay 13, 2021 12:06 PM

Evidence and findings (for now): 1. Elemental reactions Vaporize: Melt:

Conclusion: Amp reactions are updated on client

Electro Charged: Overload: Swirl: Shatter: Crystallize:

Conclusion: Transformative reactions are updated on client

Freeze: Superconduct: 2. HP No HP drain: Xiao Q: https://streamable.com/jg7dvh Hutao E: https://streamable.com/7k2mdo Resistance to dmg beyond death: https://streamable.com/jg7dvh

Conclusion: character is granted immortality whilst under high ping but will be HP bar will be updated once switched back to normal latency. HP is updated on server

3. Energy Energy particles: benny E: https://streamable.com/5ehkji

Conclusion: Energy is not produced under high ping but will be generated when ping returns to normal. Energy particles are updated on server

Burst Gauge: Xiao Q: https://streamable.com/ydftpa

Conclusion: Energy is not consumed when under high ping. Energy is updated on server

4. AI malfunction Ruin guard AI: https://streamable.com/pibyis 5. Stat buffs DMG% buff: XL c6, a4 passive test: https://streamable.com/f7d0fr ATK% buff: Benny Q buff: EM buff: Budget venti EM share: CDR: CY c2: CRIT% buff: Rosaria crit share ATK speed: MV speed: Special cases: Hutao hp <50% bonus: hutao number check: https://streamable.com/zufu3p no 33% pyro dmg bonus: https://streamable.com/ndqxo5

Conclusion: DMG%, ATK%, EM buffs are updated live unless they are linked to stats that arent updated on client

6. Resistance shred Zhong Li shred in high ping vs low ping: low ping vid: https://streamable.com/j0nzj0 high ping vid: https://streamable.com/yvrxor 4pc vv: number check: https://youtu.be/m-eWeZxdjcE high ping test: https://youtu.be/g59G-cOP_2s

Conclusion: Resistance shred is updated on client

7. Fall/Collision DMG Fall dmg(consistent velocity): high ping: https://streamable.com/wyxgd7 low ping: https://streamable.com/mn4xj6

Conclusion: Fall dmg is dealt under high ping

8. ICD, Elemental application XQ E orbitals applying hydro at an insane rate: https://streamable.com/hodlj2(edited)

10. Healing 11. Shields Diona shield: https://youtu.be/xCI7DT1HeLo

Conclusion: Shields works normally under high ping

12. Poise (Enemy) Cincin mage and slimes: high ping: https://streamable.com/wyxgd7 13. Stamina Infinite stamina: 14. Weapon passives Sacrificial weapons(edited)

sigurdMay 13, 2021 2:36 PM

aight will do that

Some ProselytizerMay 13, 2021 2:50 PM

I'll handle some

~~My streamable got suspended~~

Try and upload stuff to youtube I suppose(edited)

Since we're almost half done?

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:34 AM

SC works in high ping just confirmed

gonna get get the evidence now

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:34 AM

My WiFi i saying on me but I have evidence alrd

Just need to find a time to upload all of the vid to youtube

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:37 AM

still need the vape comparison?

this one

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:38 AM

aight

am waiting for my wifi speed to not be capped at 5kbps

(edited)

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:40 AM

oof Netlimiter on your wifi

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:45 AM

i didnt netlimit myself

its just third world country wifi speeds, getting the repairman never helped anyways, i'll just move downstairs for better wifi

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:51 AM

wait instead of xq orbitals , can i swap with barbara instead?

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:52 AM

yea thats more consistent

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:52 AM

much easier to apply hydro

okie

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:52 AM

i mean

xqiu would be easier

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:53 AM

~~with Q only yeah~~

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:53 AM

since this exists https://streamable.com/cipcjf

genshinimpact.exe 2021.05.04 - 13.18.45.10.DVR_Trim

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:53 AM

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 3:53 AM

sigurdMay 15, 2021 3:53 AM

maybe i should

sigurdMay 15, 2021 4:19 AM

vap test 2 high ping dmg(edited)

low ping dmg

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 4:20 AM

damn ai malfunction works on every mob but idk how its triggered tbh

sigurdMay 15, 2021 4:21 AM

vid evidence: high ping:https://youtu.be/9XPBA5N_vDI low ping:https://youtu.be/QMZYFYNUQAw

TC newbie

vap test 2 high ping

TC newbie

vap test 2 low ping

ai malfunction on cicins WHEN

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 4:21 AM

sigurdMay 15, 2021 4:21 AM

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 4:23 AM

holy shit i cant do jackshit with genshin on

i guess i'll just get clips

sigurdMay 15, 2021 4:24 AM

gonna try to screw up the cicin mages ai

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 4:28 AM

yep shield breaking is working at high ping

Well, I haven't tested on shield, just armour

Some ProselytizerMay 15, 2021 8:45 AM

welp my wifi isnt even allowing me to enter the game so ig i'll need a few more days to finish this ticket

sigurdMay 16, 2021 7:41 AM

There's this weird thing that if you press swap repeated times You rubberband back to where you were a few moments ago

we can test this as well in high ping

well not as high as usual lol

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 12:35 AM

well yea it does, its just positional lag

ive finally have my wifi back, will start working on this today

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 5:07 AM

we have infinite stamina in high ping

smh i can play dashtao without c1

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 5:22 AM

its actually better than c1

you can spam out as much n2cds and still be able to dodge

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 5:32 AM

https://youtu.be/YSHAAnegP8M

Y Herng Tham

running in the 90s

infinite stamina c0 hutao stonks up

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 6:52 AM

aihgt lemme just add stamina into the list

well this alrd makes physical keqing kinda nice without stamina consumption

sigurdMay 17, 2021 7:01 AM

nice find

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 7:02 AM

im trying to get footage and my wifi decides to shit on me yet again

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 7:16 AM

sac weapons dont proc under high ping

favonius as well ofc, even if u do, the particles wouldnt generate

i wonder if the 4 AA 1 energy thing works or not

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 7:37 AM

aihgt i got all the footage for all of the stuff aside from reactions

i'll work on weapon passives now

on hit weapon passives that is

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:00 AM

@sigurd the "atk" on dragonspine spear, is it based off of base atk, total atk or just base* atk%+ flat atk? it should be total atk * 80% * dmg% * (1+cdmg) right?(edited)

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:00 AM

usually its total attk

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:00 AM

why are the numbers so scuffed

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:01 AM

yeah

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:01 AM

ive got like 592 atk on hutao 182.4% cdmg on her and im only getting 233 crits on the icicle

??????

15% phys bonus as well

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:01 AM

dmg reduction also applies

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:01 AM

the math doesnt add up

oh taht

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:01 AM

yeah

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:01 AM

lemme factor that in

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:02 AM

should work

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:02 AM

ah yea then i forgot about it

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:02 AM

have tested similar stuff b4

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:02 AM

i was questioning life

sigurdMay 17, 2021 8:05 AM

happens

Some ProselytizerMay 17, 2021 8:27 AM

huh

i managed to not get disconnected while remaining at high ping for 1 minute

thats progress

Aluminum | Harbinger of JankMay 17, 2021 8:41 PM

Do you guys think my permanently wet traveler clips could be ping-related? Maybe whack a few rain ambers while lagging?(edited)

I have a few more clips if they'd be helpful

Some ProselytizerMay 18, 2021 12:30 AM

mmm idts but i think i can try replicating it

Some ProselytizerMay 22, 2021 3:37 PM

i cant replicate this at all

id say its not smtg with ping since reactions all update on the client

sigurdMay 22, 2021 5:48 PM

How does that even work

Some ProselytizerMay 23, 2021 3:53 PM

Have no idea, iirc aluminium used xq E and it just stucked there

Aluminum | Harbinger of JankMay 23, 2021 6:42 PM

Yeah, there's a clip that makes it look like that was the case, but that sort of interaction doesn't quite make sense to me. I remember going to a hillichurl camp that had a rain amber though which is why I mentioned that first.

Some ProselytizerMay 23, 2021 11:22 PM

oh the rain amber mm

Some ProselytizerMay 27, 2021 10:30 AM

https://youtu.be/7ocbDDzxT0o

Y Herng Tham

f12 xiao abyss clear solo

3rd world country wifi is whats it

im trying to find a way to extend the ping so that the server will only get updated after the third ult

Some ProselytizerMay 28, 2021 8:29 AM

Evidence and findings (for now): 1. Elemental reactions Vaporize: Benny E reverse vape: https://youtu.be/9XPBA5N_vDI number check: https://youtu.be/QMZYFYNUQAw Melt: Hutao N1 melt: https://youtu.be/EwUozvaNcPI

Conclusion: Amplifying reactions are updated on client

Electro Charged: https://youtu.be/K3PM465-9SY Overload: https://youtu.be/-CB3ThBaXSc Swirl: https://youtu.be/gtlecORkGnw Freeze and Shatter: https://youtu.be/4gaCtylCSo4 Crystallize: https://youtu.be/iDmUZz6fmeU

Conclusion: Transformative reactions are updated on client

Superconduct: https://youtu.be/Y9GIvuNkPog

Conclusion: Superconduct physical shred works under high latency

2. HP No HP drain: Xiao Q: https://youtu.be/4K7lYdrUvn4 Hutao E: https://youtu.be/v9MgG98oZqc Resistance to dmg beyond death: https://youtu.be/8t0nx34i8s4

Findings: Player and enemy are granted immortality whilst under high ping but will be HP bar will be updated once switched back to normal latency. Damage can be dealt even when character is supposed to be dead. Conclusion: HP is updated on server

3. Energy Energy particles: benny E: https://youtu.be/mSHgKDCvqLk AA energy gain: https://youtu.be/1KZInSzButA

Conclusion: Energy is not produced under high ping but will be generated when ping returns to normal. Energy particles are updated on server. However AA energy source is not refunded when back to low latency

Burst Gauge: Xiao Q: https://youtu.be/42BqRmrVRVc

Conclusion: Energy is not consumed when under high ping. Energy is updated on server

(edited)

4. AI malfunction Ruin guard AI: https://youtu.be/YffGZGhdTiQ Fatui Electro Hammer guy: https://youtu.be/UfskXbGraq0 Ruin Hunter and boar: https://youtu.be/ZQWm-AwmoSk Anemo cube: https://youtu.be/TrYWSicLrXs Churl Grenadiers: https://youtu.be/iTXIdBHuu-w Primovishap: https://youtu.be/KdKY2jccqs8 Extra note: When enemy is aggro-ed by player before high latency, it will remain aggressive. but when enemy is aggro-ed during high latency, it will remain passive for the duration of high latency state. Taunts will turn aggressive enemies to passive enemies under high latency.

Conclusion: AI gets skewered under high ping

5. Stat buffs DMG% buff: XL c6, a4 passive test: https://youtu.be/R5yKam3ZNjs ATK% buff: Benny Q buff: https://youtu.be/vT2n5bmEZQY number check: https://youtu.be/lrh_x9KYu2o EM buff: Budget venti EM share: https://youtu.be/b4Gia3dHieo CDR: Chongyun c2: https://youtu.be/IkBN09JRqcc CRIT% buff: Hutao crit share: https://youtu.be/ZPytXaOROx0 ATK speed MV speed: Skyrider passive: https://youtu.be/bIaaYdjx5kw Special cases: Hutao hp <50% bonus: hutao number check: https://youtu.be/mS5Vh9-7XnU no 33% pyro dmg bonus: https://youtu.be/z5IKX7LrwQQ

Conclusion: DMG%, ATK%, EM buffs are updated live unless they are linked to stats that arent updated on client ie: hp thresholds

6. Resistance shred Zhong Li shred in high ping vs low ping: number check: https://youtu.be/gsJAzITzsrU high ping vid: https://youtu.be/p1WAhrsWqLg 4pc vv: number check: https://youtu.be/m-eWeZxdjcE high ping test: https://youtu.be/g59G-cOP_2s

Conclusion: Resistance shred is updated on client

(edited)

7. Fall/Collision DMG Fall dmg: https://youtu.be/nzmnOqrkH6o

Conclusion: Fall dmg is dealt under high ping

8. ICD, Elemental application XQ E orbitals applying hydro at an insane rate: https://youtu.be/ncGZnk4bv7g ICD for infusions: Keqing E infusion: https://youtu.be/qPq9d-CFz3U

Conclusion: ICD behaves normally aside from a few exceptions, so far only XQ E seems to have a different application rate than usual

9. Healing Benny Q: https://youtu.be/TD9kzbjXT2c Extra note: Benny Q ignores 70% healing restriction when under high latency

Conclusion: Healing is inaccessible under high latency. Similar to hp being updated in server

10. Shields Diona shield: https://youtu.be/xCI7DT1HeLo

Conclusion: Shields works normally under high ping

11. Stamina Infinite stamina: https://youtu.be/YSHAAnegP8M

Findings: Stamina is not consumed under high ping, nor will it regenerate. Conclusion: Stamina is updated in server.

12. Weapon passives Sacrificial weapons: https://youtu.be/vzW2SuG85Z0 Favonius weapons: https://youtu.be/a8xawGLpLzc Conditional weapon passives: L.Roar: https://youtu.be/mLM3LTrcVgI LR number check: https://youtu.be/kF2Fj23vJ0g

Conclusion: If condition is true, the passive will be added into the dmg calculation

On-hit passive weapons: P.Archaic: https://youtu.be/w-7FrKkZuvQ Flute: https://youtu.be/CIUI2Fi0HNs note: Musical notes were stacked because server got updated A.Favonia: https://youtu.be/pm4QUcvASW4 WGS: https://youtu.be/WvxdoqIBP-4

Conclusion: On-hit passives cannot trigger, shares similar trait as sacrificial and favonius weapons. Aquila passive behaves differently

(edited)

Some ProselytizerMay 28, 2021 11:41 AM

bro wdym upload limit reached

AyzelJun 1, 2021 7:03 PM

Das a lotta text

I don’t have ability to view vids rn but I’ll check everything in a few days

Some ProselytizerJun 2, 2021 2:40 AM

i might have to take longer

some virus infected my laptop and all my files are gone

Some ProselytizerJun 2, 2021 12:06 PM

~~ironically, I was trying to download a cracked version of netlimiter~~

It did not age well

AyzelJun 2, 2021 7:58 PM

lmao

Some ProselytizerJun 5, 2021 6:56 AM

taunts work under high ping, when enemy gets distracted onto taunt it no longer targets character and becomes neutral and not aggressive when taunt expires

geo constructs hp updated on client

Some ProselytizerJun 5, 2021 7:56 AM

what are the advantages of high ping 1. Q gauge never goes down = no need er stats 2. ai is dumb cant hit u, dont do shit, taunts fuck them as well 3. stamina cannot deplete -low poise chars can take advantage -burst reliant chars can take advantage as well -CA spam/dash cancel chars works very well as well -non reaction dps works incredible -selfish carries work very well -cryo resonance, geo resonance, anemo resonance, pyro resonance all are broken

Some ProselytizerJun 6, 2021 4:59 AM

benny Q heals to max when recovering back to low latency, no 70% hp limit

https://streamable.com/9ep99p

benny Q

this could mean that limits arent set in the client side?

Some ProselytizerJun 7, 2021 6:55 AM

13 Taunts Ganyu E: https://youtu.be/DAb3UCPydcM Removing aggro: https://youtu.be/s56hKB0Ymc8

Conclusion: Taunts behave normally under high latency

14. Geo constructs Zhongli E: https://youtu.be/RdzbYRaIdSw

Conclusion: Geo construct HP are calculated on client side

(edited)

Some ProselytizerJun 8, 2021 2:57 AM

Significance: Bad ping breaks some mechanics in game on the server side and it could be used for meme abyss runs or be used for bad players for comfier clears if they own energy reliant characters like xiao or eula or CA spam carries like phys keqing.(edited)