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Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTMay 15, 2021 9:33 PM
@Neptunya || stuck in ticket hell - eula day one As an author, It is your responsibility to complete the ticket - Take advice constructively - NO disrespectful behavior - The ticket will be scrapped if: No activity > 1 week or open for > 1 mo. - When done, type $close
Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or Youtube/Imgur proofs Significance: Conclusion
CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 15, 2021 9:38 PM
EULA RELEASE TESTING If you have evidence proving/disproving any of these mechanics, please tag @CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ER and @Neptunya || stuck in ticket hell in #eula-basic-mechanics-findings with a video showcasing it (preferably through YouTube).
1. Is Burst snapshotted? NO 2. Do Icehwirls give seperate Lightfall stacks each? 3. Does A1 grant a Lightfall stack? 4. Does hitlag extend the duration of Lightfall? 5. Do AoE attacks grant Lightfall stacks per enemy hit? NO 6. Do her Normal Attack multihits grant Lightfall stacks per hit? 7. Does increasing attack speed potentially make Normal multihits hit too fast to gain stacks? 8. Is C4 multiplicative or additive? 9. How much does Song of Broken Pines actually increase her attack speed when factoring in hitlag? 10. Frame data of her Normal attacks at each Pine refine level? 11. At what point during her combo does Pine's passive proc (using the standard rotations)? Data on all rotations if possible. 12. Do the standard rotations theorized even work on live? If not, how much are they off by? If they do, how much extra time is there? 13. Full frame recounts of her entire kit with hitlag. 14. Do Grimheart stacks persist on switch? YES 15. Can she generate particles during Burst? 16. Particle generation for hold and press E? Variance? 17. Gauge values of all her skills? YES 18. How do Icewhirls and Hold E interact in terms of ICD? Are they separate or shared? YESNT 19. Did they nerf her assets from devkit to live? :kekw:
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Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 15, 2021 9:39 PM
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 17, 2021 6:13 AM
The purpose of this ticket is for consolidating Eula's day 1 findings of things that can be easily verified to kickstart Eula's evidence vault in the TCL. To see what's been submitted already, see Eula's Evidence Vault on the TCL. Evidence Vault: https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/cryo/eula Main Page: https://library.keqingmains.com/characters/cryo/eula Submission Format Finding: [finding goes here] <video link goes here> Videos should be uploaded to Youtube, Imgur, or directly through Discord. This is a relatively informal process, so full writeups aren't necessary.(edited)
FluffyMay 18, 2021 12:03 AM
Hello. In order to frame count, it would be very helpful if I could get the following recordings:
1. Full normal attack string against the air (2 strings, back to back) 2. Full normal attack string against a tree with hitmarks (2 strings, back to back) 3. Q cast into normal attack string against a hilichurl 4. Tap E cast into normal attack string against a hilichurl 5. Hold E cast into normal attack string against a hilichurl 6. Tap E cast into Q cast into normal attack string against a hilichurl 7. Tap E cast into Q cast into hold E cast into normal attack string against a hilichurl 8. N3 > D > N3 > D combo against a hilichurl 9. N4 > D > N4 > D combo against a hilichurl 10. E > Q > hold E > N4 > D > N4 against a hilichurl
Please ping me in #theorycrafting with these vids if you record them and please make sure they are 60fps. P.S. I recommend a level 1 blacksmith weapon and no artifacts so that you don't kill the hilichurl.
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 10:20 AM
Eula Gauges E Tap: 1A E Hold: 1A Q: 2B
KeqingUp2
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 10:34 AM
@CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ER forgot to ping... take gauge vals love(edited)
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 11:06 AM
Ult no snapshot Starting ult with no buffs or 2 stack 4PF(trial set) ends with the same crit of 39111 Evidence:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjMlW6LugdI
Arco
Eula snapshot ModCheck
KeqingUp1
Your AllyMay 18, 2021 11:13 AM
Grimheart stacks persist on switch Video Evidence: https://youtu.be/bvc_pqn8suU
Your Ally
Stacks persist on switch
KeqingUp1
FaranightMay 18, 2021 11:21 AM
https://youtu.be/PbZMPM23hk8 Test showing stacks are independent of enemies hit (at least for tap E) Lightfall with single hit E tap: 40695 (crit) 18436 (no crit) Lightfall with multihit: 40695 (crit) 18436 (no crit)
Faranight 0001
Eula Etap multihit gives same Lightfall stacks
KeqingUp1
denmaxMay 18, 2021 11:36 AM
Held variant of Icetide Vortex' slash and Icewhirl Brand do not share the same ICD. However, multiple Icewhirl Brands do share the same ICD First Icewhirl Brand damage = 657 Second Icewhirl Brand damage = 438 With 0 EM. 438 * 1.5 = 657 . Thus first hit Melt while second didn't(edited)
KeqingUp1
Some ProselytizerMay 18, 2021 12:55 PM
CA doesnt grant lightfall stacks https://youtu.be/r3PActt3bqc
Y Herng Tham
no stacks from CA
eula cant get stacks off of CA
KeqingUp1
Some ProselytizerMay 18, 2021 1:18 PM
Y Herng Tham
eula n3d hilichurl
Y Herng Tham
Eula n4d hilichurl
AyzelMay 18, 2021 1:39 PM
press E radius is 3.5, hold e is 5.5, Q is 8.0, data from code, so we'd have to collect actual ev for it(edited)
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 18, 2021 2:01 PM
Total number of Tap E slashes: 223 Final average particles per slash: 1.53363228699552 Peak average after at least 50 slashes: 1.54128440366972 Lowest average after at least 50 slashes: 1.4765625 So her tap E ratio is about 1~2 (1:1)(edited)
KeqingUp2
Hold E soon^tm
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 18, 2021 3:08 PM
Total number of Hold E slashes: 133 Final average particles per slash: 2.5187969924812 Peak average after at least 50 slashes: 2.58181818181818 Lowest average after at least 50 slashes: 2.47727272727273 Pretty much average out to be 2~3 (1:1) as well
KeqingUp1
AyzelMay 18, 2021 3:43 PM
thanks for the work!
love1
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 4:05 PM
QiqiPeek vid?
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 4:06 PM
I'll get it for him along the further confirmation in an hour
patpat1
denmaxMay 18, 2021 4:06 PM
I'll take it again. Will require two videos I guess. Low upload speed so might be a while for me to upload
patpat2
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 4:06 PM
you can do it in 1 and trim the long wait
denmaxMay 18, 2021 4:21 PM
Tested, would like further confirmation 2NO affects the Lightfall Sword damage of Glacial Illumination. Test was done at no stacks (just to be safe, no target was hit with the cast of Glacial Illumination as well) w/ NO 7934 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-Wx-RoUww no NO 7120 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvT1xzI_nDI both with 75% phys (VV domain) Sorry about the voices in the vids Actual damage directly proportional to DMG%, Actual Dmg1 / DMG%1 = Actual Dmg2 / DMG%2 [Actual Dmg1 * DMG%2] / DMG%1 = Actual Dmg2 [7934 * (1 + 0.75)] / (1+ 0.75 + 0.2) = 7120 Will upload vid wait(edited)
denmax
Eula - Ult testing with 2NO
denmax
Eula - Ult testing without 2NO
KeqingUp1
beverageMay 18, 2021 4:44 PM
Finding: The initial hit of Eula's Q / Burst does not grant a lightfall burst. For consistency's sake, Eula was given a level 80 Prototype Archaic weapon, and artifacts stripped off. Eula Q in front of Geovishap - hit initial dmg & force lightfall burst early https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoQ6NOXlmY4 Eula Q away from Geovishap - initial dmg not hitting the geovishap & force lightfall burst early https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug5RHliBnBg
GanyuSad2
KeqingUp2
Finding: The delayed lightfall burst (physical) is not snapshotted from the initial cast of Eula's burst. For consistency's sake, Eula was given a level 80 Prototype Archaic weapon, and artifacts stripped off. Eula Q in front of Geovishap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoQ6NOXlmY4 Eula Q was cast inside Bennett Burst and then allowed the buffs to expire on Eula, then activate the delayed lightfall burst https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PVpcn5ZqIU
Cola Senami Ch.
Eula Q Not Snapshotted
KeqingUp1
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 4:49 PM
these vids are privated
beverageMay 18, 2021 4:51 PM
oops. should be ok now
beverageMay 18, 2021 5:00 PM
Finding: Some Eula Q/Burst & Stack clips Eula Q - 0 stacks - 2630 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoQ6NOXlmY4 Eula Q - 5 attacks - 5318 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtc7kX235kE Eula E - Q - 4 attacks - release 4780 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0dJEFQsa5g Eula E - Q - Hold E - release 5516 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0dJEFQsa5g Eula Q - 2 atk - release 2 stack 3705 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVqLYCgVKk Eula Q - 1 atk - release 1 stack 2942 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0PN-lEam8
Cola Senami Ch.
Eula Q Pinpoint
Cola Senami Ch.
Eula Q 5 attacks 5318
Cola Senami Ch.
Eula E Q 4 attacks release 4780
Cola Senami Ch.
Eula Q 2 atk release 2 stack 3705
Cola Senami Ch.
Eula Q 1 atk release 1 stack 2942 3168
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 5:44 PM
Eula A1 scales with Q talent level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jes9lCeSnqE
Arco
Eula A1 scales with Q talent level
KeqingUp1
further confirming for denmax's finding Eula A1 gets buffed by NO 2p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCOq6VCV4M(edited)
Arco
Eula A1 DOES work with NO
KeqingUp1
JalapenoMay 18, 2021 5:57 PM
Eula’s Lightfall sword damage can be blocked by both wooden and geo mitachurl shields. The geo shield does break by a significant amount, suggesting that the lightfall sword could be considered a blunt attack. Wood: https://imgur.com/a/bL0UttC Geo: https://imgur.com/a/PU9gkvv(edited)
Eula wooden shield
Eula geo shield
KeqingUp1
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 6:35 PM
acurious_sn denmax tested Lightfall Sword, not the remenant from A1?
also GanyuSad the artis you used increased eula's atk
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 6:42 PM
oh mb I thought he was testing the sword from A1, thought ult would be a given derpfei
they didn't tho? KeqingThink they had HP/ER/EM only
unless you mean the other 3 which I had for both tests but those wouldn't matter, the only change is 2 NO buff
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 6:44 PM
without NO
with NO
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 6:44 PM
ah fuck, feather
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 6:44 PM
patpat
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 6:44 PM
I forgot, going to redo NotLikeGanyu brb
patpat1
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 6:55 PM
ok, done, it DOES work, changed link to proper upload on the initial message, returning to spreadsheet, eula stack findings soon also it doesn't trigger 4 NO but it was a fun thought to try
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 7:08 PM
please upload these videos to youtube or imgur please
ThumbsUpElectro1
because streamable deletes vids after a few months
Eula's energy meter is only depleted after her burst cast is completed. - Artesians#0002 https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoggyConcernedBibimbapTBTacoRight-c88YbIbyjUHozu7a(edited)
KeqingMains - clip for nep
Watch KeqingMains's clip titled "clip for nep"
KeqingUp1
The duration of Glacial Illumination is not effected by hitlag. - Artesians#0002 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798969666881323018/844275942045515830/lightfallsword.mp4(edited)
KeqingUp1
JalapenoMay 18, 2021 7:14 PM
Done
patpat1
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 8:39 PM
All eula hits (NA multis, E grimoire stacks=icewhirls, A1 lightsword) gain 1 stack, all tests&numbers in video and compiled on image of sheet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaG8WuCSqBE https://gyazo.com/7831cdd292a0c0a3fb9777ae30f15afe(edited)
Arco
Eula stacking
Gyazo
patpat1
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 9:48 PM
hmm this might be better as a ticket, feels like something that would benefit from multiple verifications
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 9:48 PM
zanto said he already got it confirmed on minecraft server beforehand so it's just to have official video more than anything Sadge
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 18, 2021 9:49 PM
@CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ER can you confirm this, cause im too small brain rn AmberSweat
tea hasnt kicked in yet
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CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 18, 2021 9:50 PM
more or less
n5 shud be 7 stacks total tho
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 18, 2021 9:51 PM
N4+N2 as well, that was me rushing to get it written and forgot to add in the hit from N3, fixing now
jstern25| 3pyrowalkingadogMay 18, 2021 11:32 PM
you can cancel the first hit of n5, possible extra stack if you have pines(edited)
SalMay 19, 2021 12:13 AM
I heard that people already got numbers on WGS vs Pine, but I'm blind and can't find
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 1:18 AM
@CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ER post Eula weapon comparisons? KeqingPray
or was that sitri...
This ticket only encompasses "day one" Eula things, so weapon comparisons don't really fit into the scope of this soon to be nuked ticket. Weapon comparisons will likely be posted in the eula guide project once that gets set up.
SalMay 19, 2021 1:19 AM
I gotcha, It's just that Squirecake I think told me that one of the weapons was better over the other from the day one findings, so I was trying to find what he was referring to.(edited)
SitriMay 19, 2021 2:52 AM
reworking it with new stack counts(edited)
patpat1
give me 2 hours
SitriMay 19, 2021 4:49 AM
My Eula frame counts
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 5:39 AM
previous tests with evidence show that it doesn't bug snapshot for 4 PF and the E res shred is not a stat that can be snapshotted it depends on enemy at the time of damage even if the ability was snapshot
TarccMay 19, 2021 5:40 AM
yeah, I forgot I had C1, I will also look into what I am going to contribute more thoroughly going forward(rather than just seeing something I think I get and reporting immediatly), going to delete what I said(edited)
SitriMay 19, 2021 5:55 AM
Eula has 2 combos: E Q Hold E N4D N3 (detonate): Higher DPS, easier to remember and execute, Eula is squishier due to no grimheart stacks, less energy E Q Tap E N4 D N1 (detonate): Lower DPS, a lot harder to remember and execute, Eula is tankier + more energy gen As F2P, you should get 12 stacks max most of the time, unless you micro delay your N1 after Hold E by a bit, so N1 and A1 doesnt happen on the exact same frame, it makes your timing tighter, but you can reach 13 stacks
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 6:05 AM
E frames are different, using arte's counts btw E tap: 65 E hold: 89 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PN0WgqENUfV8i5hnrz1BOEU56fk7m8FYlFXzFzrsS3k/edit#gid=1667881257
Frame Data
Notes Raw hit frame data being collected for damage simulation purposes. The frame count starts at 1, the first frame out of neutral, and ends after the hitmark or neutral frame. It is possible to use a skill or cancel the same frame the hitmark appears. All data unfortunately has (medium) hitl...
SitriMay 19, 2021 6:06 AM
hmm, that doesnt line up with testing then, that would be way too long, and the combo art tested wouldnt be possible
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 6:07 AM
try comparing fluffy's as well?
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 6:08 AM
AmberSweat maybe im just reading it wrong, but here's fluffys counts as well
SitriMay 19, 2021 6:19 AM
Arte's E counts is correct, i redid the math(edited)
my bad
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 6:19 AM
sounds good
patpat
no worries
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 7:11 AM
@CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ER QiqiPeek any findings on eula mains thats not here?
CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 19, 2021 7:30 AM
nah eula mains has no submission lololol
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 7:32 AM
patpat
you should add #published-tcl to eula mains MonaSmug(edited)
/s
CuriosityBOTMay 19, 2021 7:32 AM
:warning: Sticky Message, Read Before Typing! :warning: The purpose of this ticket is for consolidating Eula's day 1 findings of things that can be easily verified to kickstart Eula's evidence vault in the TCL. See pinned messages for how you can contribute, the questions are not all encompassing so if you have a simple, easily verifiable finding to add, go for it, make sure your videos are uploaded to youtube, imgur, or discord. This is a relatively informal process, so full writeups aren't necessary. Also, please keep discussion to #theorycrafting, this channel is for findings only. Eula Day 1 Findings Compliation: https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/cryo/eula#day-1-eula-findings Eula TCL Page: https://library.keqingmains.com/characters/cryo/eula
Cleared sticky for #eula-basic-mechanics-findings
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 7:32 AM
mains' discord are supposed to TC? I thought they were just fanbase kleek
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 7:32 AM
patpat
SitriMay 19, 2021 7:40 AM
repost correct counts now(edited)
KeqingUp1
EulaHmm1
Bobrokrot | Don't invest in ₼BUGMay 19, 2021 8:23 AM
Eula shatter test Blunt attacks: E tap, E hold, A1, Q activate, Lightfall Sword Not blunt: Icewhirl Brand Evidence: tested against Cryo Abyss mage shield with lvl 1 weapon and no artifacts. https://youtu.be/21EyQ4Onj0A
Bobrokrot
Eula shatter test
KeqingUp1
SitriMay 19, 2021 8:29 AM
fuck, talent error, correct one this time I promise pepegacredit
patpat1
hmmfei1
Bobrokrot | Don't invest in ₼BUGMay 19, 2021 8:36 AM
Nobody cares about charged attacks. Sadge
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 8:42 AM
because they don't gain stacks kleeHHAHa
kleeHHAHa2
Artesians「KAZUHA SLASH」と読め。May 19, 2021 8:42 AM
Finding: Broken Pines aSPD between R1-R5 will only give you (ONE EXTRA STACK), which is about 1.5% DPS, not accounting for set up time for Millenial Movement. https://imgur.com/a/g6uRIzo Video is Eula with 25% aSPD from a domain card.
KeqingUp1
SitriMay 19, 2021 8:54 AM
Checks out with math. With Hold E combo R1 and R5 all lets you do N4 instead of N3, and N1 instead of only hold E with tap E combo
ZeitrafferMay 19, 2021 9:48 AM
Eula's Q Cooldown timer and Energy reset starts at the ult's hitmark.
kiswonBismarckLove1
copium1
KeqingUp1
beverageMay 19, 2021 10:36 AM
Rude, i submitted one
CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 19, 2021 10:37 AM
doesnt count, it's already recorded pepepoint
eulawot1
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Pick (Prick)May 19, 2021 2:07 PM
i got a rudimentary sheet showing that eula doesnt conform to normal crit ratios if you are willing to reset until her ult crits, considering that the requirement is maximum total damage. do i slap it here?
VheraxMay 19, 2021 4:29 PM
Doesn't that apply to any character with a big single hit burst on Q? Like Mona/Childe/HT?
LindonMay 19, 2021 4:46 PM
That holds true with every character in the game.
ThumbsUpElectro1
Just go 5% crit and 300% crit damage then keep resetting until you hit that magical number of only crits
Azuki | AR 35May 19, 2021 4:48 PM
Maybe for Eula with Rosaria and Cryo Res, she can stay at pretty low crit rate so sometimes she doesn't conform to normal crit ratios?
Kind of like freeze ganyu with 15% crit rate being viable
LindonMay 19, 2021 4:49 PM
That is however not something inherent with the character. That is more in the territory or build/comp/setup or whatever you call it.
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 4:50 PM
please try to limit chit chatter in here if possible, you can discuss it in large in #theorycrafting, limitting issues in 1-2 messages here is enough
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 7:32 PM
hmm feels like something better off in a ticket rather than slapped onto the long ass list of day 1 mechanics findings
feels like a finding better suited for its own ticket than here in day one findings
Artesians「KAZUHA SLASH」と読め。May 19, 2021 8:12 PM
Nah it’s ok
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 8:28 PM
will be transcribing and nuking #eula-basic-mechanics-findings in 24 hrs, unless reasonable objection is brought up
!rm 24h nuke #eula-basic-mechanics-findings
Keqing's Eternal AssistantBOTMay 19, 2021 8:28 PM
Alright Neptunya, I'll remind you about nuke #eula-basic-mechanics-findings in 1 day. ID: 18271636
[tenten]一刀一刀一刀一刀一刀一刀May 19, 2021 8:34 PM
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 19, 2021 8:37 PM
acurious_sn
translate pls
hmm eula stack mechanics
but its really hard to understand just from using machine translation AmberSweat
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 8:43 PM
looks like nothing new
objection! insert comment about nep's size here
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[tenten]一刀一刀一刀一刀一刀一刀May 19, 2021 8:44 PM
q don't get stack, hold E can eat stack TLDR
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 19, 2021 8:45 PM
which is stuff we already had
StenoMay 19, 2021 9:27 PM
are there any conclusions on archaic vs snowsilver?
CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 19, 2021 9:45 PM
archaic more consistent, stss has a higher ceiling but both are pretty close to each other regardless
StenoMay 19, 2021 9:46 PM
thanks
Pick (Prick)May 19, 2021 10:13 PM
Sorta, not really. Maximising for maximum total damage, the burst if level 1 compared to level 9 auto and level 6 skill actually has around a 1:4 crit ratio. There is a balance for the most imbalanced crit ratio. This is just groundwork that points out at 9/6/9 that balance is literally below the innate 5% crit rate of characters. Basically, you can have around 30% crit rate, 150% crit damage and that is optimal total damage if you reset for bursts.
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 20, 2021 1:25 PM
At @Ayzel 's request, I went over to recheck Eula's Q pop range, her initial swing is ~8 meters, an abyss tile is 2.55 meters, as shown in the video, Eula's ult reaches ~2.7 abyss tiles of range, which is ~7 meters, 1 meter short but still very large video evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMUqkC1ruGs
Arco
Eula range
KeqingUp2
At @CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ER 's request, checked Eula's lightsword explosion for snapshot, as seen in the video, when the lightsword from Q lights up and is about to explode, it's still updating live stats video evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JY83ExfS8c
Arco
Eula no snapshot still
KeqingUp1
unless someone else has more to add that'd be about it, reminder to nuke this later today nep GanyuSip
VenaticMay 20, 2021 2:27 PM
@Pick (Prick) Found your idea pretty interesting so i yoinked it and made a graph (using your 5/200 = 210 total CV). Kinda explains why solver suggested negative CR for a single Q, if Q is really 60% of the DPS.
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 20, 2021 7:44 PM
closing channel down for submissions
going to file final submissions on exploring eula's mechanics into the tcl and nuking it
back to your regularly scheduled great wall of tickets DeadInside
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 20, 2021 8:22 PM
jk
am reviving this channel
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modabooz1
kleek1
#eula-basic-mechanics-findings is about collecting discoveries in Eula's kit that can easily be verified through video. Any Eula calculations are outside of the scope of this ticket, and should be in their own unique ticket for a more in depth review by the editor team. When you're submitting a finding, make sure to follow the simple submission format in pins(edited)
Eko | Actual CasualMay 20, 2021 8:29 PM
EkoMonster
Genshin Impact Sword Animation Burst Stack Test
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 20, 2021 8:32 PM
the 3rd clip (from top to bottom) you sent me in DMs is very good for where the actual window of gaining stacks ends if you can get that one posted
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Eko | Actual CasualMay 20, 2021 8:34 PM
EkoMonster
Genshin Impact Eula window of gaining stacks
KeqingUp1
natMay 20, 2021 10:42 PM
has there been a submission on eula being unable to stack whem hitting abyss mage shields?
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 20, 2021 10:45 PM
nope, if youre curious abt what's been submitted in the future feel free to take a peek at her page on the TCL
Eula
The Spindrift Knight, a scion of old aristocracy, and the Captain of the Knights of Favonius Reconnaissance Company.
theres also her evidence vault, but it needs some reformatting because i wasnt expecting so many submissions https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/cryo/eula
Eula
natMay 20, 2021 10:46 PM
oh thanks, i'll look into it
love1
natMay 20, 2021 11:20 PM
Finding: Eula does not gain stacks for Lightfall Sword when hitting Abyss Mage shields and Mitachurl wooden/geo shields Videos: https://youtu.be/RwXRC9ayx9I https://youtu.be/xyfB2P00tUA https://youtu.be/4gbZ9v2OlCQ Edit: Added mitachurl geo shields for completion(edited)
Nat Len
Eula Stacking against Abyss Mage Shield
stacking does NOT work against abyss mage shields sadly
KeqingUp2
lightfall sword not growing in size should be enough proof, right? no need to show damage differences?
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 20, 2021 11:22 PM
size growth is not per stack it's at thresholds
natMay 20, 2021 11:22 PM
oh
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 20, 2021 11:22 PM
no updates at 5 stacks does work tho for the vids in question
natMay 20, 2021 11:23 PM
ok cool
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 20, 2021 11:53 PM
note to self - update lightfall stacking description: https://discord.com/channels/763583452762734592/763610791839924224/845085251893067797(edited)
KeqingUp1
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 21, 2021 6:08 AM
keqsad
why is this vid age restrictedddd
KleeMad(edited)
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 21, 2021 6:18 AM
explicit eula butt imagery, sorry but kids shouldn't see this noellePensive check again if it's still restricted when you have the time
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 21, 2021 6:19 AM
KeqPout
xf3 | sleep modCheckMay 21, 2021 6:21 AM
OMEGALUL
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 21, 2021 6:38 AM
kannapoggies thanks for all your submissions, site is now up to date with all findings in this channel as of the time of writing this msg(edited)
love4
beverageMay 21, 2021 6:49 AM
Good job nep, everyone keqjoy
love3
Justice1999May 23, 2021 1:53 AM
Guys, has this image been finalised?
Just wanna check, it's okay if it's not finalised yet
CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 23, 2021 1:53 AM
no
Justice1999May 23, 2021 1:54 AM
Oh, okay then, I'll wait, I'll ask again in a few days
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashMay 23, 2021 1:54 AM
could that imagine be deleted from here in case someone checks the channel without reading and taking wrong conclusions? feel like we've had enough of that already with it's spread
Justice1999May 23, 2021 1:55 AM
Will do
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 23, 2021 5:40 AM
yoinked entry on Eula's C1 by &lt;@!106504921796329472&gt; from Eula Main's Library submissions: https://discord.com/channels/808500851395395657/821536401635147848/845125881056067584(edited)
got perms from Zanto, head of TC at eula mains and confirmed vid evidence myself(edited)
StrissMay 23, 2021 6:38 AM
Sanity test - Eula C4 is additive: https://youtu.be/S6H0r5VnUFo(edited)
KX
Eula C4 test
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 25, 2021 12:32 AM
can you do the same test, but with: a1, then burst, and stat screen at end?(edited)
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellMay 25, 2021 5:38 AM
any unanswered eula questions you want turned into a theoryhunt?
CHRONIC KLEEDANCE2ERMay 25, 2021 5:39 AM
not that i can think of
CuriosityBOTMay 25, 2021 5:39 AM
:warning: Sticky Message, Read Before Typing! :warning: #eula-basic-mechanics-findings is about collecting discoveries in Eula's kit that can easily be verified through video. Any Eula calculations are outside of the scope of this ticket, and should be in their own unique ticket for a more in depth review by the editor team. When you're submitting a finding, make sure to follow the simple submission format in pins
StrissJun 4, 2021 10:02 PM
Neptunya || stuck in ticket hellJun 7, 2021 6:44 AM
will be nuking this ticket in ~24 hrs
say your farewells kyuuchan_salute
Grey | Spoondrifting&BackwashJun 7, 2021 6:49 AM
goodbye world Sadge
CuriosityBOTJun 7, 2021 6:49 AM
:warning: Sticky Message, Read Before Typing! :warning: #eula-basic-mechanics-findings is about collecting discoveries in Eula's kit that can easily be verified through video. Any Eula calculations are outside of the scope of this ticket, and should be in their own unique ticket for a more in depth review by the editor team. When you're submitting a finding, make sure to follow the simple submission format in pins
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 8, 2021 7:36 AM
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CuriosityBOTJun 8, 2021 7:36 AM
:warning: Sticky Message, Read Before Typing! :warning: #eula-basic-mechanics-findings is about collecting discoveries in Eula's kit that can easily be verified through video. Any Eula calculations are outside of the scope of this ticket, and should be in their own unique ticket for a more in depth review by the editor team. When you're submitting a finding, make sure to follow the simple submission format in pins