Server: KQM | Genshin Impact (763583452762734592) Channel: energy-gen-numbers (845560562221056001) Messages: 200 wiremash | kequing?#0433 (137414081819836416) Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASH#3614 (135209577279913984) Mol | anemo fan#3280 (563936279792844811) Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptO#7836 (264018289359847424) Zebin || Yae's Seat#1678 (354915902128521216) Yuehai Ticketing Secretary#4843 (557628352828014614) JonahFarc | Battery Archon?#7056 (143207954814992385) Ayzel | KAZUHA SURASSHU#7399 (276182497145126912) Mono$INVEST₼C6KAEYAWAITINGROOM#8058 (154004693826273280) denmax#9293 (140866779894251520) KQM | Genshin Impact - energy-gen-numbers
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200 messages
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 5:51 PM
here
kill its friends first
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:51 PM
you know
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 5:51 PM
ty
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:51 PM
thta's actually 1 of my favorite spot
to do slime playground
HuTaokek1
where i just use jean and yeet them off the cliflf
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 5:51 PM
elaborate ZhongliConcern
oh...
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:52 PM
and they will try to fly
or float
but they can't because they are still smol
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 5:52 PM
ZhongliConcern
is that cute or cruel?
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:52 PM
it doesn't hurt them
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 5:52 PM
VentiAww
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:53 PM
HuTaokek
HuTaokek2
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 5:54 PM
oh my
look at them struggle
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:54 PM
it's illegal to use them as a launching pad
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 5:54 PM
so cute~
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 5:54 PM
but it's not illegal to launch them
HuTaokek
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 5:55 PM
is jean 1:1.5 in datamined? KeqingThink
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:04 PM
jean is 2~3 (1:2) in datamine
67% to 3
HuTaokek
luckily after this wave of data overhaul
we will only need to do it on new characters
which means that i don't have to bother other people with it anymore HuTaokek
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:05 PM
till then, at least
I'm just hoping the next char is a bow/catalyst so I don't have to update my sheet
HuTaokek
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:07 PM
it doesn't matter for me since im doing the counting on the characters either way
what i hope is that
the next character also has fixed ratio
ganyu -> rosaria -> yanfei was easy life
oh wait hu tao was in between
but still
other than that it was easy life
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
pain
i'm certain it's 3 due to the brightness
of the trail
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
the first one is an easy 3
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
good ThumbsUpElectro
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
the 2nd one need to inspect other frames
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:09 PM
O
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
that's the same one
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
oh
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:09 PM
oh
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
first one that looked at all like 2 in 39 attempts
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:09 PM
when i do these i usually throw it into video editor
so i can look and analyze frame by frame
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:10 PM
xinyan in domain of guyun 2 (leftmost slime won't attack monolith just kill the rest)
thought you might be interested
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:10 PM
yeah i stopped the rec and flipped to vlc so i could run it at .003x or whatever lowest speed is
to see frame by frame
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:10 PM
it's okay im already done with xinyan
it's all 4s
HuTaokek
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:10 PM
TC needs a "enemies for TCing" list
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:10 PM
ez
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:10 PM
as in, where all elemental slimes are and the ruin guards etc
lol
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:11 PM
there was one that was really funny
it started out looking like a 2
and then both of them split halfway HuTaokek
let me go and grab it
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:11 PM
oh boy we're going to 400 KeqMood
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:11 PM
everyone seems to like the thousand winds ruin guard
idk why, it's not the most convenient
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
that's 63% to 3 particles
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
I use him because it doesn't rain down there
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:12 PM
I like the lawachurl here
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
did you get the peak average and lowest average data along
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
IT'S NOT 67
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
that could help us to just round it off
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:12 PM
what are you using to record the data?
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
i mean
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:12 PM
that gui thing
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:12 PM
you don't have to force it to be 67%
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:13 PM
just wrote a quick counter in visual basic
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:13 PM
ah
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:13 PM
as basic as it gets
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:14 PM
yes
it is not getting copied as we speak
HuTaokek
nah I'm kidding I'll stick to my spreadsheet
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:14 PM
I'm just gonna leave it at that if it's fine with you steph GanyuSip
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:14 PM
HuTaokek
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:15 PM
I'm just too lazy to write stuff down I just press button kleekicant
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:15 PM
i mean
even without peak average and lowest average that's fine
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:15 PM
imagine making a tier list for enemies
HuTaokek1
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:16 PM
you can press more E to try to hit the 67% or 60% though HuTaokek
but generally speaking
if i get a slightly different result compare to datamine result
i uses my own result
like for example
according to datamine diluc is supposed to be 1~2 (3:1)
but i got 1~2 (2:1) instead
which is 25% vs 33%
technically close enough
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:16 PM
i just might
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:16 PM
but i used my own result either way
because mine was average out of 200+ E strings(edited)
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:16 PM
hold is the same, the biggest difference I had was having 60 of 2 and only 80 of 3
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:16 PM
which is 600+ e taps HuTaokek
copium
VentiUwU1
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:17 PM
then I had a ton of x3
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:17 PM
that sounds more like 2:3 than 1:2 actually maybe we should go with that HuTaokek
wait you actually went to test hold as well HuTaokek
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:18 PM
I didn't do a bunch
just a few to see if there's any difference
but it looked the same as tap
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:19 PM
yeah according to the datamine it's the same as well
according to my experience it's also the same as well
so we can leave it at that
VentiUwU
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:21 PM
not really a tier list but maybe more of a general guide to which mobs are useful for various aspects of theorycrafting
ThumbsUpElectro1
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:25 PM
still 3 i think
best shot i have of it but the tails are stronger
i turned off bloom for this testing
same one
i'm only at 2 cases of this where it's not obviously 3 in 60 runs
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:25 PM
it looks brighter but I can't be 100% certain
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:26 PM
another shot of same event
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:27 PM
that looks really close to a 3 for me
but if you have other frames
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:28 PM
yeah looks like 3 to me as well, 2 on the bottom one
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:30 PM
I honestly can't tell(edited)
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:30 PM
video grabbing at too low quality but this is another shot of the same event, i think it's 3 for sure
Zebin || Yae's SeatMay 22, 2021 6:31 PM
3~4 particles at (143:62)(edited)
I'm not touching geo mc for a while
HuTaokek1
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:32 PM
i'm at i have 3 particles clearly in 50 tallied observations, 2 cases where it looked weird until i dug into the frames, and 1 case i accidentally wasn't recording for. i think i'm confident saying it's 3 each E for xiao
Zebin || Yae's SeatMay 22, 2021 6:33 PM
Right looks overlapped with 2
ThumbsUpElectro1
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:34 PM
a 1/24 chance to generate 2 particles seems pretty fringe. what's the smallest probability that they input for extra particles that we have observed in the code?
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:35 PM
thanks that's really helpful love
smallest probability is 25% so far
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:35 PM
on diona paw check?
yeah
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:36 PM
oh wait no smallest is 20% on diona paw check yeah
25% is diluc's check according to datamine
im keeping my 33% check though because that's the result i get
for ningguang datamine is 33% check as well but i got mine at 40% so i am keeping mine
HuTaokek
but for the rest it's been rather accurate
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:37 PM
this would be a sub 4% chance to generate 2 particles for xiao if i said the questionable ones that looked like 3 were still 2. if i include the one i didn't record as a 2, then it's 2%(edited)
i'm just going to say i'm satisfied it's 3 luminederp
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:41 PM
yes that's how we do things HuTaokek
love1
anyways thanks
i'll update the sheet
anyways @Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptO can we confirm that jean is closer to 60% than 67%?
or do we do 67% instead
so basically 2:3 or 1:2
Greyhound | CRYO is best CRYptOMay 22, 2021 6:42 PM
do 67 I closed game kleeHHAHa
kleeHHAHa1
it got close enough at near 300
probably roughs out at 500 tests
Mol | anemo fanMay 22, 2021 6:42 PM
me too one character particle staring was enough. i applaud your dedication steph
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:44 PM
alright HuTaokek
guess we are done
LETSDIMMAGOOOO1
thanks for all the work guys love
i shall double check everything again before i close this ticket
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:51 PM
Elemental skill additional data
Anemo MC Anemo MC,Hold E,raw total average,3.279069767,Particles,Instances,Anemo MC,Tap E,average: 2 lmao 1,3,1,2 2,4,3,186,2,2 3,3,4,72,3,2 4,3,4,2 5,3,5,2 6,3,6,2 7,4,7,2 8,3,8,2 9,3,9,2 10,3,10,2 11,4,11,2 12,3,12,2 13,3,13,2 14,3,14,2 15,3,15,2 16,4,16,2 17,3,17,2 18,4,18,2 19,3,19,2 20,3,20...
wait for me!
aww, I was too late
anyway, anemo mc hold 3-4 186:72
let's just call it 2:1
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:52 PM
oh wait
oh wait yeah i totally forget about anemo mc hold HuTaokek
let me double check that
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:53 PM
you forgot about me?
ZhongliConcern
luminewoke
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 6:54 PM
no i didn't
i remembered the slime pet
wiremash | kequing?May 22, 2021 6:54 PM
I'll upload the video one day very soon sometime(edited)
just in case
Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASHMay 22, 2021 7:00 PM
sure
alright bois
we are done LETSGOOOOO
LETSDIMMAGOOOO3
alright im gonna close the ticket now
thanks for all the help people love
LETSGOOOOO
LETSDIMMAGOOOO
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTMay 22, 2021 7:00 PM
Ticket Closed by @Steph | INVEST ₼KAZUHA SLASH
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JonahFarc | Battery Archon?May 23, 2021 7:20 AM
Dimbreath/GenshinData
Repository containing the game data for the game Genshin Impact. - Dimbreath/GenshinData
JonahFarc | Battery Archon?May 24, 2021 4:44 AM
after discussion, either is fine because we want to take testing over datamine
Ayzel | KAZUHA SURASSHUMay 25, 2021 9:01 PM
verified
Mono$INVEST₼C6KAEYAWAITINGROOMMay 26, 2021 5:22 AM
denmaxJun 3, 2021 1:58 PM
Can't verify all entries in the same methodology (for obvious reasons), but I can verify at least most of these with a few attempts. Give the benefit of the doubt (though to be honest I really have no doubts to begin with anyway), it's a pass from me
Moving to publishing. Energy production sheet should be updated accordingly(edited)
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 3, 2021 8:24 PM
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