KQM | Genshin Impact - c0-amber-2-simultaneous-baron-bunnies

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<@286104675806347264> - C0 Amber 2 simultaneous Baron Bunnies As an author, It is your responsibility to complete the ticket - Take advice constructively - NO disrespectful behavior - The ticket will be scrapped if: No activity > 1 week or open for > 1 mo. - When done, type $close

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ExumaMay 25, 2021 9:21 AM

Finding: Two Baron Bunnies can exist simultaneously even without Amber's fourth constellation. Evidence: Done in Abyss floor 1 with a cons 0 Amber. I used a 4-piece gambler to reset E Video: https://youtu.be/a3_6u2jdFsE Theory Hunt: https://discord.com/channels/763583452762734592/782067573276672061/846655453555195906(edited)

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Amber 2x Baron Bunny no cons

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So i didnt go the 4tf route to see if 2 bunnies could coexist at low cons. Did the 4tf/chong/bei have any particular significance apart from cd reduction and electro?

LowyMay 25, 2021 9:32 AM

this is the closest I ever got with Chongyun + 4tf

exploded right when the CD was at 0.0

AsakiMay 25, 2021 9:34 AM

This is a bit expected tho, and I’m expecting the same thing with Ganyu, or Guoba for that matter.

The interesting question I’d like to ask is can Mona achieve this?

Since her description says no.

ExumaMay 25, 2021 9:34 AM

I could try if i had a mona

AsakiMay 25, 2021 9:35 AM

LowyMay 25, 2021 9:35 AM

https://gfycat.com/constantscholarlyaustralianfurseal

Chongyun+ 4tf amber test

dont have mona as well

ExumaMay 25, 2021 9:37 AM

cy + 2 anemo could give you a bit more time

LowyMay 25, 2021 9:37 AM

I would try now

ExumaMay 25, 2021 9:37 AM

on an electro slime

LowyMay 25, 2021 9:38 AM

maybe it would give me like 0.5 more seconds

any electro slime locations

ExumaMay 25, 2021 9:39 AM

wolvendom, south of the ore spot

i kept running it with cy but i didnt realize i only had c1

i was gonna look for an abyss card next but this seemed simpler

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 9:43 AM

Nice

I just posted it cause it was an interesting question i didnt want to do the legwork for, so thanks for satisfying my curiousity

Close it when you want, im satisfied with the results

ExumaMay 25, 2021 9:44 AM

Alright, i'll wait a bit for <@370981968742973441> and his 4tf trial

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 9:52 AM

You probably could do it with bow cancels

Also, i remember millie did something with guoba, got 2 bears for a fraction of a sec

Im considering expanding the scope, since no one involved is a purple trrying to get the tc role, so im expanding this to all turrets, such as but not exhaustively: ganyu e, mona e, xiangling e, amber e, fischl e.

LowyMay 25, 2021 9:56 AM

with double anemo it might be possible, here my baron bunny is down and my CD just refreshed, boomer hands couldnt press E fast enough and the first one exploded(edited)

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:01 AM

got ganyu

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:02 AM

Wait, you arent using amber ult? Reason i proposed beidou is cause the 4u on ult allows for multi 3-4 hit overload, making it much easier to hit 0 cd

Sorry, probably should have made that clear

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:14 AM

also there can only exist one chong E at a time

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:16 AM

tried unfortunatly, the 0.8s cap on 4pc TF only allows the CD reduction the proc once when using beidou ult + amber ult https://outplayed.tv/media/oOkmQK

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Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:18 AM

Hold up, thats not right

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:18 AM

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:23 AM

There was only 1 overload

Before there was a pyro aura

Amber has a 3 hit icd doesnt she?

Ok why not you try fischl e to beidou q to amber eq and auto to proc beidou ult attacks?

I think that might be able to get multiple procs from there

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:24 AM

i think that counts for like half a second

ExumaMay 25, 2021 10:28 AM

double guoba is also possible

doesnt work with fischl since her elemental skill button is replaced by the oz reposition

Albedo just replaces his flower

so only mona left

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:29 AM

Hm... I wonder if..

Any of you got qiqi?

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:29 AM

yeah i have qiqi

i think three guobas is possible

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:31 AM

I think qiqi double tailsman might be possible

ExumaMay 25, 2021 10:31 AM

qiqi E just refreshes

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:31 AM

Oh? Thats sad then

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:32 AM

yeah she just casts it new like chong

happens with sac sword all the time

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:32 AM

https://gfycat.com/pastelgrossangwantibo

barron bunny in the air while the other one is still on field

closest I got w/o ult

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:33 AM

Lets just wait for a mona user the

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:34 AM

how many baron bunnys does c2+ amber have? 2?

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:34 AM

yes

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:34 AM

did you try to get 3 to work?

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:35 AM

wait no

I think C4 is the one that gives 1 more baron bunny

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:35 AM

Whoops

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:35 AM

ok anyone with C4 Amber wants to try to summon 3 or maybe even 4 bunnys?

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:35 AM

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:36 AM

I stated c2 as the double bunny cons

I dont want to message nepmail

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:36 AM

I only know 1 person that has a C4+ barron bunny

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:36 AM

So imma just pretend it didnt happen

Oh wait i got it

@i seem tired &would like sum tea

LowyMay 25, 2021 10:36 AM

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:37 AM

using gambler and the 50% chance abyss card it's possible to get 2 more charges of your skill

that's how i'm trying to get 3 guobas

Ganyu could use a similar experiment with 3 or 4 flowers

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 10:38 AM

C4 might actually be able to get 4 bun buns

Thats incredible

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:40 AM

bunny army

i think ganyu has her 2nd flower on C1 right?

ExumaMay 25, 2021 10:41 AM

Nah c1 is the energy/res shred on ffb

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:41 AM

oh which one was it then?

Ah C2

ExumaMay 25, 2021 10:41 AM

c2, just checked

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:44 AM

so Cryo Amber was C2 with an additional charge not Amber Amber o: maybe we have better luck with getting someone to try ganyu with 4 flowers, her cooldowns are shorter too so it's easier with ganyu

oh and Sac Bow exists too for Ganyu

is it possible to get 5 flowers with Ganyu in theory? 2 charges, 1 sac bow, 1 with gambler 4piece defeat, 1 with abyss card

ExumaMay 25, 2021 10:44 AM

what did you mean by 50% abyss card?

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:45 AM

https://discord.com/channels/763583452762734592/846678238796316683/846696582337658911 the card on the right

PoiyoMay 25, 2021 10:45 AM

i can get double turrets with mona sac

should i try with just 4tf?

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:51 AM

this one

ok i got 3 guobas to work...

ExumaMay 25, 2021 10:52 AM

What floor is this? i tried looking for this too

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 10:52 AM

i think floor 2, but the cards are random afaik

LowyMay 25, 2021 11:20 AM

https://gfycat.com/WillingDampEquestrian

fischl e to beidou q to amber eq and auto

actually procced twice

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 11:23 AM

someone try double Oz

LowyMay 25, 2021 11:23 AM

C6 Fischll btw

ExumaMay 25, 2021 11:24 AM

cant, we get the oz reposition button

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 11:24 AM

i'm aware but maybe there's a small window without reposition button

ExumaMay 25, 2021 11:28 AM

Didnt notice a window for that on mobile. That'd be really strong if we could do it

would you happen to have a mona?

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 11:30 AM

tfw monalet

i have amber c2 and found out yesterday that if you're in party with c0 amber, you can detonate their bunnies (with their damage stats, no extra +200% dmg)(edited)

could also try with geo constructs like geo mc / ningguang / zhongli

ExumaMay 25, 2021 11:33 AM

Ning and Zl (c0) replaces their constructs upon recast. Geo mc can place simultaneously

LowyMay 25, 2021 11:44 AM

I think this is as close as we could get with amber https://outplayed.tv/media/mRNmkr(edited)

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Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 11:49 AM

Close enough, methinks

Just need to wait for rakka to come with the triple bun bun

LowyMay 25, 2021 11:49 AM

triple

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 11:49 AM

Hopefully

She can get the good card and get the quad bun

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 12:05 PM

In coop, 4 c4 amber will be able to produce 12 baron bunnies

Thats incredible

A Bunarmy of Buns

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 12:06 PM

12 guobas

https://tenor.com/view/guoba-mad-gif-19311128

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 12:09 PM

12 guobas do just as much damage as 1 guoba

Because none of them will ever hit, no matter how many exist concurrently(edited)

Greyhound | Cryo Currency DealerMay 25, 2021 12:13 PM

just need to get more goubas, as you can see from the gif there, they stack on top of each other, o if we can manage to get 13968 goubas we can fill an abyss room full of them, thus every inch of the room i covered in gouba, and the hit becomes guarantee for at least 3 of them

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 12:14 PM

what's the load of guoba tho hmmmmmm

LowyMay 25, 2021 12:14 PM

slideshow genshin

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 12:50 PM

@Greyhound | Cryo Currency Dealer https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu

Conservation of Ninjutsu - TV Tropes

The Conservation of Ninjutsu trope as used in popular culture. In any martial arts fight, there is only a finite amount of ninjutsu available to each side in …

Its impossible for any number of guobas to win

Greyhound | Cryo Currency DealerMay 25, 2021 12:51 PM

counterargument: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche

Avalanche

An avalanche (also called a snowslide) is a rapid flow of snow down a slope, such as a hill or mountain.Avalanches can be set off spontaneously, by such factors as increased precipitation or snowpack weakening, or by external means such as humans, animals, and earthquakes. Primarily composed of flowing snow and air, large avalanches have the cap...

replace the snow with burning fatass

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 12:58 PM

guoba/baron bunny avalanche

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 2:34 PM

Hold up

Im an idiot

Can you check whether xiangling a4 stacks?

Does 3 guoba mean 30% atk?

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 2:38 PM

Not sure if I can check in abyss ;-; cause I can't see stats

Could only look at dmg

I think you could just test in coop no? 3 people using guoba and having 3 chilis

Greyhound | Cryo Currency DealerMay 25, 2021 2:40 PM

if my memory serves right it should refresh

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 25, 2021 2:48 PM

Thats sad i guess

HatsuharufagMay 25, 2021 2:50 PM

I have C5 Amber, can test triple bunny later if abyss cards are merciful

but I fully expect the third bunny to instantly detonate the first one

JenjenJLMay 25, 2021 2:51 PM

Just use gambler 4-set if going for 3 bunnies

You can create 4 bunny's by using the abyss card tho

electro > pyroMay 25, 2021 3:19 PM

people will start using triple guoba for showcases smh

i seem tired &would like sum teaMay 25, 2021 5:01 PM

No thanks

Sir_pick_the_prickMay 26, 2021 12:22 AM

ExumaMay 26, 2021 4:31 AM

Alright, since we've pretty much addressed the main hunt and things have settled down, i'll be closing the ticket now

Thanks for the input everyone

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ok so if i read this correctly, ganyu amber and xiangling e (already in tcl) can be spawned again while the initial one is already deployed.

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could you please consolidate the updated findings and all relevant evidence into one message in the format of findings/evidence/significance for ease of transfer into the theorycrafting library?

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