@Matt | AR 56 - Alternative Attribute Scaling Guide
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Matt | AR 56May 27, 2021 10:48 PM
Theory: I created a brief guide/chart exploring the alternative attributes which empower characters with an Attribute Scaling Chart
r/Genshin_Impact - I created an Attribute Scaling Chart
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Significance: The Attribute Scaling Chart is used to help you build your characters in Genshin Impact when considering maximizing artifact substats or even main stats for alternative builds to take advantage of nuanced skills unlocked from your characters through Ascension passives or Constellations. It's pretty clear that you want most damage-dealers in your party to maximize CRIT DMG and CRIT Rate with an appropriate amount of ATK, but this guide reveals what other Attributes you can build towards with a character when attempting to maximize a certain stat other than ATK or CRIT (like Noelle or Albedo with DEF or Mona with ER as straightforward examples). Characters not present in this Chart (meaning they have no other alternative Attribute builds other than ATK + CRIT): Traveler, Amber, Lisa, Razor, Diluc, Venti, Xiao, Eula.
The finding that the characters Traveler, Amber, Lisa, Razor, Diluc, Venti, Xiao, Eula do not have an alternative build to them, means that they're technically more F2P friendly, but also considered slightly more one-dimensional in how they're played/built.
Oh I totally missed Yanfei A4, thank you, I should have added her under ATK. And yeah, Fischl's A4 and Xiangling's C2 scale directly with their ATK, so I added them in this chart, I'll also remake the graphic using A4, instead of A2 (small typo) @Ayzel
crit rate doesn't fall under yanfei, even though it totally makes sense that she deals much more dmg than others with crit rate, because she doesn't have any abilities which directly benefit from having extra crit rate; there is no scaling or inheriting of values in her kit in regards to crit rate. That was my intention with this chart gah I misread this twice, yes yanfei totally belongs under crit rate in the same vein that klee and tartag are in there(edited)
I assume this is a meme about weird dumb ways to build characters? in which case geo MC should be placed under both HP and DEF as boulders(as well as other non specified scaling constructs) have a 1:1 ratio for HP/DEF/DR, for albedo&zhongli it's less relevant but geo mc can mean having 3 fat geo mcs to bodytank and the 4 walls from ult that cannot be destroyed by damage means(altho they don't have scaling they further solidify the meme idea of hodor mc)
＃＃May 29, 2021 12:35 PM
idk about atk scaling. literally any damaging ability that scales with ATK scales with crit just as well.
AyzelMay 31, 2021 5:23 AM
I’m pretty sure this is the case as well
The ATK is basically just describing the MV
It doesn’t only scale with attack
I think only qiqi really technically scales with ATK
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 2, 2021 8:26 PM
Ticket Opened by @Ayzel
whale roleJun 5, 2021 10:35 PM
if qiqi scales with atk then technically jean would too
xf3 | gunflame gamingJun 20, 2021 11:58 PM
@Matt | AR 56 still working on this?
Matt | AR 56Jun 21, 2021 1:28 AM
@xf3 | gunflame gaming yeah probably, I’ll rework the original idea of this ticket and make a new graphic sometime this week
FaranightJun 23, 2021 3:57 AM
Alright, we will archive at the end of the week otherwise. We can always pull it back out when you have the time
Theory: I created charts for targeting Attributes seen in the game which explore alternative attributes that empower characters in different ways.
Significance: These Charts will help Travelers identify what Attributes to maximize when collecting Artifacts with less than ideal substats, or to fully embrace Artifacts with main stats for alternative builds to take advantage of nuanced skills unlocked from your characters through Ascension passives or Constellations. It's pretty clear that you want most damage-dealers in your party to maximize CRIT DMG and CRIT Rate with an appropriate amount of ATK, but this guide reveals what other Attributes you can build towards with a character when attempting to maximize a certain stat other than ATK or CRIT (like Noelle or Albedo with DEF or Mona with ER for DPS and Barbara with HP for healing effectiveness, as examples). Characters not present in any of these Charts (meaning they have no other alternative Attribute builds other than traditional ATK + CRIT for DPS) are Lisa, Razor, Diluc, Venti, Xiao, Eula.
The finding that Lisa, Razor, Diluc, Venti, Xiao, and Eula do not have any alternative Attribute Scaling based in their kits, means that they're technically less F2P friendly (because they do not rely on additional Attributes and can use Artifacts with sub-optimal substats less easily) and are also considered slightly more one-dimensional in how they're played and built.
Update from last time: I've included Kazuha in these Charts (who can be removed if this TC post were to published before the arrival of his banner) and re-created the graphic through Google Sheets.
ayzel already brought it up earlier, most of your dmg scales on atk are wrong as those are not atk scalings they are pure damage scalings affected by crit and dmg% such as traveller A1/4, xiangling C2, keqing C1, etc.
the defensive charts are also still missing constructs
I also still have mixed feelings for considering chong C6 for HP as the difference is % not flat, thus him having more health means he requires more healing to get back to higher %s of his total HP and thus being actually counterproductive to the point rather than helpful
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 24, 2021 6:44 PM
Ticket Opened by @Faranight
Matt | AR 56Jun 24, 2021 7:25 PM
Thanks to talks with @Greyhound | Cryo Currency Dealer , I've studied a bit about the hidden attribute scaling seen with geo constructs and have added them onto the scaling spreadsheets. I've also added some helpful notes across all the spreadsheets, reinforcing how I see the scaling with DPS, healing, shield strength, and constructs
I've also removed Chongyun from HP scaling for DPS, because it's percentage-based and not flat (which is a note under No Attribute Scaling tab)
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 24, 2021 7:25 PM
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Artesians, Head of TCJun 26, 2021 1:50 AM
Not sure where this goes under the TCL, maybe under some scaling section about stats perhaps?
I could make a cleaner graphic, but again, not sure where to place it
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