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4vv-res-shred-mechanics
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Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 23, 2021 3:16 PM
@SirBoi - 4VV res shred mechanics As an author, It is your responsibility to complete the ticket - Take advice constructively - NO disrespectful behavior - The ticket will be scrapped if: No activity > 1 week or open for > 1 mo. - When done, type $close
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SirBoiJun 23, 2021 3:18 PM
Finding: Viridescent Venerer’s RES shred passive only buffs Swirl DMG against an enemy with a pre-existing aura.
Evidence: Tested against 3 Hilichurls of the same level, with Lisa first applying Electro aura on one Hilichurl and swirling with Venti
Things to know:
 Hilichurl base RES = 10% Hilichurl RES (with VV shred) = 10% - 40% = -30% (BUT res shred is halved below zero, so -30/2 = -15%) RES% Multiplier = 1 - Enemy RES% Incoming Swirl DMG = Outgoing Swirl DMG * RES% Multiplier Outgoing Swirl DMG = Incoming Swirl DMG / RES% Multiplier 1st clip (Raven Bow Venti, 270 EM, 4VV): https://youtu.be/Ui78cv0ZyjM Electro Swirl DMG on Swirled Hilichurl = 2603 Outgoing DMG = 2603 / (1 - (-0.15)) = 2263.478261 Calculated Swirl DMG against a Hilichurl with 10% RES:
 2263 * (1 - 0.1) = 2036.7 (rounded to 2037) Swirl AoE DMG on surrounding Hilichurls = 2037 Calculated Swirl DMG matches ingame Swirl DMG against a Hilichurl with base RES 2nd clip (Stringless Venti, 400 EM, 4VV): https://youtu.be/5Gvo_3Wzptc Electro Swirl DMG on Swirled Hilichurl = 3173 Outgoing DMG = 3173 / (1 - (-0.15)) = 2759.130435 Calculated Swirl DMG against a Hilichurl with base RES: 2759 * (1 - 0.1) = 2483.217391 (rounded to 2483) Swirl AoE DMG on surrounding Hilichurls = 2483 Again, calculated swirl DMG matches Swirl DMG ingame 3rd clip (Stringless Venti, 400 EM, 2NO + 2VV): https://youtu.be/QsQ90L5TUWc Electro Swirl DMG on Swirled Hilichurl = 2134 Swirl AoE DMG on surrounding Hilichurls = 2134 All Hilichurls had their base RES, therefore each of them received the same Swirl DMG.
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Raven Bow
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Stringless
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Noblesse + VV
Finding: Viridescent Venerer’s RES shred passive also works on surrounding enemies after being affected by Swirl’s AoE.
Evidence: Clip 1 was tested against the 3 same hilichurls using the same rotation and setup with Lisa + Venti (with ZL for shielding + res shred.
https://youtu.be/bZOAH38YLMs With Zhongli’s shred in effect, Lisa’s 1-hit AA dealt 16 Electro DMG against one Hilichurl. Since all Hilichurls share the same base RES, we can assume Lisa will deal 16 DMG to the other two when paired with Zhongli’s RES shred. Venti triggered Swirl, and the Electro status as well as the DMG spread to the rest of the hilichurls (as for the different Swirl DMG values shown in the clip, reasons were Zhongli’s shield range + VV shred mechanic finding above). After the Swirl, Lisa perfomed 1-hit AA on the Hilichurls, dealing 20 DMG to each one. ZL shred is still active in this scenario, but there is still a DMG increase after the VV proc from Venti.
Clip 2 involved the same enemies minus Zhongli shred.
https://youtu.be/QzwUxjJ0k4U Lisa’s 1-hit AA dealt 14 DMG and applied Electro to one Hilichurl. After swirling with Venti and triggering VV, Lisa performed 1-hit AA and dealt 18 DMG against each Hilichurl. Although the two Hilichurls weren’t affected by the Swirl reaction, they were affected by its AoE, and the VV resistance reduction was also applied afterward.
Significance: Viridescent Venerer continues to be a powerful set for Anemo supports. On 06/21/2021, the wiki stated that VV’s resistance reduction only affects the enemy hit by the Swirl reaction, but as I finished recording counterproof it had been changed, proving my findings.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689855948709167139/857273866761142282/Screen_Shot_2021-06-21_at_5.png 


Conclusion: Welp, time to continue farming for EM VV artifacts.
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VV Shred
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VV Shred 2
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 23, 2021 3:19 PM
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Aluminum | Harbinger of JankJun 23, 2021 3:21 PM
Isn't the simple conclusion that the resistance shred is applied before the swirl damage for the enemy on whom the swirl is triggered?
TerrapinJun 23, 2021 6:44 PM
Aye, the others do have their resistances reduced, just not before the initial hit.
Aluminum | Harbinger of JankJun 25, 2021 10:55 PM
Verified. Seems like it's kind of previously known, though the original understanding was imperfect. Either way solid evidence.
Artesians, Head of TCJun 26, 2021 2:14 AM
Verified
Should be added under the artifact section perhaps
fishing with childeJun 26, 2021 3:40 AM
is this 2 tickets or one keqewide
raf (genshin code makes me pain)Jun 26, 2021 9:53 AM
cough cough
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KeqingBOTJun 26, 2021 9:53 AM
Added Wangsheng Theorycrafter to @SirBoi!
Yuehai Ticketing SecretaryBOTJun 26, 2021 12:49 PM
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