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gengarAug 16, 2021 6:07 AM
Finding: anemo-mc-sac-sword interaction--Anemo traveler's hold E skill only procs SS on the last hit of palm vortex, even though hold E does multiple instances of anemo damage.
Methods: R2 Sacrificial Sword: After dealing damage to an opponent with an Elemental Skill, the skill has a 50% chance to end its own CD. Can only occur once every 26s. On a single target, palm vortex does 7 instances of anemo damage. For testing, no elements were swirled. Use anemo trav...
Significance: Anemo mc build considerations; similar mechanic to Sayu's hold E skill (only the final kick can proc sacrificial greatsword's passive)
McpieAug 16, 2021 6:11 AM
Do you have 4p gambler?
gengarAug 16, 2021 6:12 AM
related question--has it been tested whether the passive for sacrificial weapons has a chance to proc per enemy (if i hit 5 enemies with sucrose's E, do I have 5 chances to proc sacrificial fragments?)
hm i'm not sure // i might have foddered all my gambler pieces
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McpieAug 16, 2021 6:12 AM
could you check if hold E triggers its passive cooldown like in #876370102969327646(edited)
gengarAug 16, 2021 6:12 AM
yep, i'll try to get a 4 piece set
McpieAug 16, 2021 6:13 AM
nah, spare your resin
I'll test it myself later today
also you can rename a ticket $rename anemo-mc-sac-sword-interaction(edited)
gengarAug 16, 2021 6:13 AM
ah thank you :)
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gtrainAug 16, 2021 6:14 AM
has been tested, does have a chance to proc per enemy
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at least, if i am remembering correctly
gengarAug 16, 2021 6:14 AM
huh i didn't find any info on that in the evidence vault for sacrificial weapons
Character,E skill,Interaction Anemo MC,Palm vortex,If using hold E, can only trigger passive on final hit
since most people just run sac sword on XQ/sac bow on diona, it would be nice to have testing/documentation for other character skills
i don't have sacrificial greatsword though so i won't be able to test any claymore characters
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Nass008Aug 16, 2021 3:04 PM
should sac weapon interaction against multi targets also tested? the guy who started this convo (Smippycis#2746) should have some test footages
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phaZAug 16, 2021 3:28 PM
a4 also procs if fischl triggers reaction on an element, you could like put pyronado down, then do charged shots on pyro with oz too far away to attack himself, a4 should put electro onto it after.(edited)
i can actually test this if needed still
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and see if sac bow procs
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gtrainAug 16, 2021 3:39 PM
Since it's not in the tcl I guess so
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Nass008Aug 16, 2021 3:41 PM
ok I'll DM them coz they don't have submission role(edited)
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gengarAug 16, 2021 4:14 PM
ohh good point // sorry, im not too familiar with fischl's passives. what about her a1 talent where you have to hit oz with a charged shot?
phaZAug 16, 2021 4:15 PM
it scales with charged attack damage so i would assume no but didnt test
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r1 sac bow proc on fischl a4(edited)
doesnt seem to proc from A1
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gengarAug 16, 2021 6:45 PM
haven't been able to replicate actually // i might have accidentally placed mona's e skill too close to the enemy and the aoe from the regular skill triggered sac frags maybe someone with a higher refinement SF can check
McpieAug 16, 2021 6:46 PM
based on GO (and they have unit tests per each character) it's using elemental skill modifier(edited)
tho... mona is missing unit tests for this stat
so forget what I said, could be false
gengarAug 16, 2021 6:50 PM
hm then it could be just bad rng on my end, since mona's a1 procs ToM
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alright i think i've noted down the important sac weapon interactions in the spreadsheet
a couple more characters need testing tho
diluc -- does only the 3rd use of his E skill proc SG
albedo -- pretty sure transient blossoms can also proc SS if albedo is the active character, but would like confirmation from someone who has albedo hah
xinyan -- pyro ticks from her E skill and her C2 shield should proc SG but i can't test this myself
klee -- can any bounce of E skill proc sac fragments ?
mona -- maybe someone with a higher refine sac frags can test + confirm whether or not her a1 will proc the passive (i still haven't been able to)
phaZAug 17, 2021 12:26 PM
ill do klee and mona now, pretty sure they can proc on any dmg tick of them
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phaZAug 17, 2021 12:35 PM
klee works on mines
i assume it works on 3rd as well but low chance and long cd on sac so takes too long i wont test :'D
does not seem to work on mona A1 i only have r1 sac in this video(edited)
Significance: Helpful for character building, documents which characters are able to proc sacrificial weapons with multi-hit skills. Confirms that Mona's A1 will not trigger effects that relate to elemental skill damage or elemental skill casting, but can activate effects that require an elemental skill to hit an opponent.
sacrificial-weapons-interactions
Sacrificial Sword
Character,E skill,Interaction,Evidence Albedo,Solar Isotoma, Transient Blossoms,The initial hit of Albedo's Solar Isotoma and damage dealt by Transient Blossoms can proc SS.,https://imgur.com/a/GBNoL8W Anemo MC,Palm vortex,If using hold...
srlAug 18, 2021 4:13 AM
ironically... anemo mc's hold E is tagged "Elemental_Art_Hold"
gengarAug 18, 2021 4:13 AM
damn justice for anemo mc when
hm do you know what mona's a1 is coded as?
srlAug 18, 2021 4:15 AM
off the top of my head no.. would have to crawl through datamine
but if u just search for "attackTag": "Elemental_Art
you'll see mona only has 2 elemental_art attack tag
looks like the ticks and the explosion
oh looks like the phantom summoned by her dash is "attackTag": "Elemental_Art_Extra",
noelle for example when shield breaks that's elemental art as well
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itskhoiAug 18, 2021 8:33 AM
@gengar Hi, could you get some footage for Diona, Chongyun, Noelle, and Sayu as well?
We probably won't need one for Kazuha & Childe. So just those 4 are enough
gengarAug 18, 2021 8:44 AM
Yep I can get footage for diona but I don't have sacrificial great sword for the other three
itskhoiAug 18, 2021 8:48 AM
you could ask for help in #theorycrafting, or start a theory-hunt
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Nass008Aug 18, 2021 8:55 AM
I can record noelle and chongyun(edited)
wait does chong's A4 proc activate sac? my chong is lvl40
gengarAug 18, 2021 9:04 AM
yeah, it's chongyuns A4
hm I don't have permission to send msgs in the theorycrafting/theory hunt channels