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overworld-hydro-gauge-and-icd
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pyro abyss mage shield breaking
zhongli pillar pulse crystallize
kaeya freeze duration
diona freeze duration
found it (also pineapple’s video I just pulled it)
icd is 0.25 second. Gauges start from 0.4U, and reach 2U as the max limit.
https://github.com/Dimbreath/GenshinData/blob/97ec5bf557d7dd301beac19ab72cdf4edf9def0a/BinOutput/Ability/Temp/ConfigAbility_Scene_Weather.json#L5
https://github.com/Dimbreath/GenshinData/blob/97ec5bf557d7dd301beac19ab72cdf4edf9def0a/BinOutput/Ability/Temp/ConfigAbility_Scene_Weather.json#L5
carrier with the carry once more, do you mind elaborating on starting and limit? the aura ramps?
carrier with the carry once more, do you mind elaborating on starting and limit? the aura ramps?
oh, there are different types of rain
https://youtu.be/PMtfZuZ9i9A
Do you guys want this
Do you guys want this
there's no aura right here
4 taos in coop
I can try to get a video w kaeya next time I happen to notice it raining but I am NT going to time skip looking for weather patterns
T going to time skip looking for weather patterns
1A Cryo in Rain test: Freeze lasts 210 frames in both tests, which is exactly 3.5s
This matches the predicted value for applying 25 Cryo to anything above 25 Hydro
https://youtu.be/xnmioJca29g
This matches the predicted value for applying 25 Cryo to anything above 25 Hydro
https://youtu.be/xnmioJca29g
1A Cryo in Rain test: Freeze lasts 240 frames in both tests, which is exactly 4s
This matches the predicted value for applying 50 Cryo or higher to 30 Hydro exactly. This should prove that Rain has a max durability of 30
https://youtu.be/Lw2wvGbpY-0
This matches the predicted value for applying 50 Cryo or higher to 30 Hydro exactly. This should prove that Rain has a max durability of 30
https://youtu.be/Lw2wvGbpY-0
Finding: Hydro from standing water sources lasts 8s, and does not follow the usual duration rules associated with gauge strength.
Evidence: In this video we can see the Hydro on both Tartaglia and the Hillichurl lasts roughly 8s from the moment they each leave the water.
https://youtu.be/f2j6qEDQSl8
This does not match the 12s we would normally expect a 50 durability aura to last. It does, however, match the coded duration values in the Dimbreath repo, as well as the findings on the Hydro Slimes, which also cause a fixed-duration Hydro aura in a similar manner.
https://github.com/Dimbreath/GenshinData/blob/97ec5bf557d7dd301beac19ab72cdf4edf9def0a/BinOutput/Ability/Temp/ConfigAbility_Scene_Weather.json#L21
#883264842931257425
Rain has exactly the same duration value of 8s coded for its 30 durability Hydro, however it's a lot harder to test leaving rain than it is leaving water
Evidence: In this video we can see the Hydro on both Tartaglia and the Hillichurl lasts roughly 8s from the moment they each leave the water.
https://youtu.be/f2j6qEDQSl8
This does not match the 12s we would normally expect a 50 durability aura to last. It does, however, match the coded duration values in the Dimbreath repo, as well as the findings on the Hydro Slimes, which also cause a fixed-duration Hydro aura in a similar manner.
https://github.com/Dimbreath/GenshinData/blob/97ec5bf557d7dd301beac19ab72cdf4edf9def0a/BinOutput/Ability/Temp/ConfigAbility_Scene_Weather.json#L21
#883264842931257425
Rain has exactly the same duration value of 8s coded for its 30 durability Hydro, however it's a lot harder to test leaving rain than it is leaving water
Here's the evidence that water's Hydro aura stacks, rather than just applying 50 immediately.
https://youtu.be/r7W9h75ct2U
In this video, I first let the Hillichurl stand in the water long enough that it should be fully stacked with Hydro. Then I freeze it with 50 Cryo, and the Freeze duration lasts 339 frames. That indicates the Hydro aura on the enemy was slightly over 48, which matches with a 50 Hydro aura that decays slightly in between each 0.25s / 15 frame tick.
Then, after the Hillichurl is unfrozen, Kaeya's ice bridge prevents it from being immediately re-applied with Hydro. I try to time re-freezing the enemy as quickly after it re-enters the water as possible. However there has still been >0.5s spent unfrozen, so the freeze reduction formula should not apply.
The enemy spent 43 frames standing in the water, so should have had 3 ticks of Hydro applied to it: at 0, 15, and 30 frames. So if our theory is correct it should have 30 Hydro durability at this point.
Freezing at this point lasted 230 frames. Plugging this into the Freeze formula says the Hydro on the enemy was roughly 28.4. Again, this matches with a 30 Hydro aura that decays slightly in between ticks.
This indicates that the Hydro on anything standing in water gets stacked up 10 Hydro at a time. We'll need more similar testing with more or less time with the enemy spent in the water: so trying to time that second Kaeya E as close to frame perfect as possible
https://youtu.be/r7W9h75ct2U
In this video, I first let the Hillichurl stand in the water long enough that it should be fully stacked with Hydro. Then I freeze it with 50 Cryo, and the Freeze duration lasts 339 frames. That indicates the Hydro aura on the enemy was slightly over 48, which matches with a 50 Hydro aura that decays slightly in between each 0.25s / 15 frame tick.
Then, after the Hillichurl is unfrozen, Kaeya's ice bridge prevents it from being immediately re-applied with Hydro. I try to time re-freezing the enemy as quickly after it re-enters the water as possible. However there has still been >0.5s spent unfrozen, so the freeze reduction formula should not apply.
The enemy spent 43 frames standing in the water, so should have had 3 ticks of Hydro applied to it: at 0, 15, and 30 frames. So if our theory is correct it should have 30 Hydro durability at this point.
Freezing at this point lasted 230 frames. Plugging this into the Freeze formula says the Hydro on the enemy was roughly 28.4. Again, this matches with a 30 Hydro aura that decays slightly in between ticks.
This indicates that the Hydro on anything standing in water gets stacked up 10 Hydro at a time. We'll need more similar testing with more or less time with the enemy spent in the water: so trying to time that second Kaeya E as close to frame perfect as possible
Findings
Overworld Hydro can be split into 2 types:
- Water (eg seas, rivers, lakes, etc)
- Rain (unknown whether normal rain and thunderstorm rain work the same)
Water
- ICD = 0.25s
- Strength = 10 durability per tick, stacks up to a max of 50
- Duration = 8s, regardless of durability
Rain
- ICD = 0.5s
- Strength = 10 durability per tick, stacks up to a max of 30
- Duration = Unknown, could not manage to test
Evidence
Water ICD and per-tick strength: https://youtu.be/x2yf3COJR0M Ticks happened every 0.25s. Number of ticks indicates that each tick was 10 durability.
Water Max Strength, and stacking: https://youtu.be/r7W9h75ct2U
The duration the Hillichurl was frozen for indicates they had 48-50 durability
They were re-frozen 43 frames after falling into the water. Since water ticks every 15 frames, they should have had 3 ticks applied to them for 30 durability. Their frozen duration matchs 28-30 durability
Water Duration: https://youtu.be/f2j6qEDQSl8
Rain Max Strength: Tested by freezing with both 25 and 50 Cryo, then comparing the duration to the Freeze duration formula
Freeze duration formula: t = 24 * ( 5^0.5 * ((x) + 20)^0.5 - 10 )
Where t is the freeze duration in frames, and x is the freeze aura durability, which is 2x the minimum of the Cryo and Hydro gauges.
- 25 Cryo test: https://youtu.be/xnmioJca29g Lasted 210 frames. This is the number for min(25, Hydro) = 25, so Hydro durability is at least 25
- 50 Cryo test: https://youtu.be/Lw2wvGbpY-0 Lasted 240 frames. This is the number for min(50, Hydro) = 30, so Hydro durability is 30
Rain ICD and Per-tick Strength: https://youtu.be/Kjx3EFqfdrE
The reductions in the Pyro shield happened every 30 frames, or 0.5s. The number of ticks it took to remove the Pyro shield indicates 10 durability per tick. The first reduction was 30 durability's worth, since the mage already had fully stacked rain on them when they applied their shield.
Overworld Hydro can be split into 2 types:
- Water (eg seas, rivers, lakes, etc)
- Rain (unknown whether normal rain and thunderstorm rain work the same)
Water
- ICD = 0.25s
- Strength = 10 durability per tick, stacks up to a max of 50
- Duration = 8s, regardless of durability
Rain
- ICD = 0.5s
- Strength = 10 durability per tick, stacks up to a max of 30
- Duration = Unknown, could not manage to test
Evidence
Water ICD and per-tick strength: https://youtu.be/x2yf3COJR0M Ticks happened every 0.25s. Number of ticks indicates that each tick was 10 durability.
Water Max Strength, and stacking: https://youtu.be/r7W9h75ct2U
The duration the Hillichurl was frozen for indicates they had 48-50 durability
They were re-frozen 43 frames after falling into the water. Since water ticks every 15 frames, they should have had 3 ticks applied to them for 30 durability. Their frozen duration matchs 28-30 durability
Water Duration: https://youtu.be/f2j6qEDQSl8
Rain Max Strength: Tested by freezing with both 25 and 50 Cryo, then comparing the duration to the Freeze duration formula
Freeze duration formula: t = 24 * ( 5^0.5 * ((x) + 20)^0.5 - 10 )
Where t is the freeze duration in frames, and x is the freeze aura durability, which is 2x the minimum of the Cryo and Hydro gauges.
- 25 Cryo test: https://youtu.be/xnmioJca29g Lasted 210 frames. This is the number for min(25, Hydro) = 25, so Hydro durability is at least 25
- 50 Cryo test: https://youtu.be/Lw2wvGbpY-0 Lasted 240 frames. This is the number for min(50, Hydro) = 30, so Hydro durability is 30
Rain ICD and Per-tick Strength: https://youtu.be/Kjx3EFqfdrE
The reductions in the Pyro shield happened every 30 frames, or 0.5s. The number of ticks it took to remove the Pyro shield indicates 10 durability per tick. The first reduction was 30 durability's worth, since the mage already had fully stacked rain on them when they applied their shield.
Agreed. Took out the Rain duration stuff, rain stacking, and the Light vs Heavy rain distinction, since that all came from the datamine and couldn't be replicated. I'm missing exactly one trivial video piece of evidence: no-one ever actually tested the ICD of Rain. All I need is a single video of a Pyro Abyss mage in the rain, but I don't have one anywhere
