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amber-c2-reaction-trigger
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TiBotSat, October 8, 2022, 04:47 AM
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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 04:47 AM
This is like
really old tech but it's not in the tcl
Better format later
is there any other pyro transformative?
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rarepossumSat, October 8, 2022, 05:03 AM
burgeon
swirl
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 05:04 AM
yes i have OL & burgeon here
oh
i can hit anemo hypostasis
lmao it works too
:kekqing:
Finding:
Amber's C2, Bunny Triggered, can be triggered using Transformative Reactions via Amber's Charged Attacks.

Evidence:
Pyro Swirl: https://imgur.com/DigwpIL
Overload & Burgeon: https://youtu.be/iin-SJNTxcY

Significance:
More understanding on Amber's kit. Fun techs, can be use for dank set ups.
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rarepossumSat, October 8, 2022, 05:20 AM
does it work with burst triggered reactions
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 05:22 AM
i'm pretty sure not
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 05:57 AM
try again wtih burgeon?
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: try again wtih burgeon?
Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 05:58 AM
it's above
oh
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 05:58 AM
the q
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 05:58 AM
sure later
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: try again wtih burgeon?
Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:05 AM
oh right burning is also a pyro reaction
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:06 AM
ok
now do burning
then throw E
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:07 AM
burning aoe too small
but i assume it should trigger :hmm:
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:08 AM
ok
can you do the burgeon test
but without the dendro seed
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:09 AM
:hmm:
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:09 AM
:keqomegalul: as in, just do a CA onto it to see if thats close enough for C2 to trigger anyways
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:09 AM
it's not
:kekqing:
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:10 AM
vid where
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:10 AM
fine
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:12 AM
huh
did the burning grass explode it?
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:12 AM
no
expiration
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:13 AM
oh
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:13 AM
but CA hits have aoe
you can still hit near foot to trigger it
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:13 AM
yeah i know
just wanna test stuff thoroughly
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:26 AM
can't think of any way to make burning aoe hit bunny
:kekqing:
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:26 AM
burn grass
then throw bunny on grass
:keqomegalul:
or burn enemy
then throw bunny on enemy
:keqomegalul:
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:27 AM
not effective
:kekqing:
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:27 AM
ok so
try overload on electro hypo
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:28 AM
what's the diff
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:28 AM
to see if its consistent
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:30 AM
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:32 AM
actually
whats the normal delay for CA to explosion
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:32 AM
very little
reaction aoe has to trigger first so it's slower
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:36 AM
yeah thats faster by a few frames
uwaah
:uwaah:
transformative reactions track what attack performed them
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:38 AM
the best way to trigger this is at c4
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:38 AM
what if
you fire an arrow from forever away
keqomg1
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:38 AM
plop 2 bunnies, create seed on Cryo hypostasis, then burgeon trigger on it via melting
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:38 AM
go to an enemy, apply electro, then chuck down bunny
or whatever that means :keqomegalul:
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: you fire an arrow from forever away
Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:39 AM
i thought about that :kleek:
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nzpiefaceSat, October 8, 2022, 06:39 AM
what if
you plop two bunnies and see if one bunny can cause the other to explode
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Rathalos | I will finish itSat, October 8, 2022, 06:39 AM
it can iirc
not sure if it's on TCL
i have no c4 so i can't prove it
but i'm 99% sure it's like that
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: you plop two bunnies and see if one bunny can cause the other to explode
daibangdenSat, October 8, 2022, 07:05 AM
no
keqomg1
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ygg2755Sun, October 9, 2022, 04:08 AM
if one bunny made the other explode a lot of setups wouldn't exist
You have to shoot where you can hit around both bunnies if you want to detonate them at the same time
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: transformative reactions track what attack performed them
io_saturnaliaSun, October 9, 2022, 04:33 AM
https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/electro/lisa#violet-arcs-conductive-status-can-be-passed-with-overload-and-superconduct
I knew my memory wasn't playing tricks on me and Nosi did make a ticket back in the day, albeit I thought it was general ticket, not character specific
Lisa | KQM TCL
Main Page:
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Rathalos | I will finish itSun, October 9, 2022, 05:20 AM
Oh that's probably it :kekqing:
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Rathalos | I will finish itSun, October 9, 2022, 07:35 AM
aged like milk :OMEGALUL:
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TiBotSun, October 9, 2022, 07:36 AM
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Reply to Avatar io_saturnalia: https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/electro/lisa#violet-arcs-conductive-status-can-be-passed-with-overload-and-superconduct
nzpiefaceSun, October 9, 2022, 10:49 AM
wait now that you bring it up, there is precedent
:PaimonHmmm_Soreko:
wait
so like
do reactions have damage tags of the abilities that caused them?
is this useful anywhere?
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rarepossumSun, October 9, 2022, 10:50 AM
its an extra chance to proc things lke the fish
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: do reactions have damage tags of the abilities that caused them?
io_saturnaliaSun, October 9, 2022, 11:42 AM
not everything gets radiated, only quite a few abilities actually got this "mechanic" IIRC. I distinctly remember us testing what tags gets radiated by reaction and what do not, there should be a writeup uuuh......somewhere? it was like year and a half ago and my memory is shit. generally simple stuff like guoba res shred was radiated, but not more intricate triggers. maybe it's leftover parts of 4VV code or something playing tricks
as for the usefullness, well it is sufficiently enigmatic thingamajig that no one besides Nosi and other Lisa mains know about it, let alone explored it in depth. who knows?
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Reply to Avatar io_saturnalia: not everything gets radiated, only quite a few abilities actually got this "mechanic" IIRC. I distinctly remember us testing what tags gets radiated by reaction and what do not, there should be a writeup uuuh......somewhere? it was like year and a half ago and my memory is shit. generally simple stuff like guoba res shred was radiated, but not more intricate triggers. maybe it's leftover parts of 4VV code or something playing tricks
꧁༺ π‘€π‘œπ“ƒπ‘œπ’Έπ’½π“‡π‘œπ“‚β‘¨ΰΌ»κ§‚Thu, October 13, 2022, 08:37 PM
Both fisch and lisa's instances were bugs iirc
idk if XL's res shred got fixed though
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io_saturnaliaThu, October 13, 2022, 08:39 PM
devs removed Lisa's C1 from tap E, but it still works on hold
conductive stacks are getting radiated as they were before
turbo got killed, yeah
rip turbo
you was magnificent
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TiBotThu, October 13, 2022, 09:33 PM
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