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TiBotThu, October 27, 2022 at 12:23 AM
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 12:25 AM
barrier doesn't spawn(it spawns late) can run out of barrier
enemies be attacking co-op members with no connection issue as usual (but sometimes enemies just stand still [uncertain])
electro/cryo lawachurl floor slam attacks spawn all at once when they load in and one shot me
certain enemies' attacks can hit me even when they have not load in for me:
-electro abyss mage electro ring attack can hit when the enemy haven't spawn in
-ruin drakes nuke bomb attack, flying ruin drake machine gun attack
-cryo lawachurl ice bombs on the ground
overload aoe dmg caused by enemies onto co-op members can hurt the bad connection player
enemies can die and challenge can be finished before enemies spawn in on bad connection player side
energy particles doesn't spawn until enemies have spawn(but i got particles from nilou in deepwood memories domain tho)
energy regen from raiden burst dori burst works
players outside the barrier can respawn after dying but not sure the mechanic(theory: dying while sticking or close to the barrier, counts as being within the barrier and you don't respawn)
the domain's special effect has no delay
sometimes enemies spawn where they spawn at start when they finally spawn in for bad connection player, sometimes they spawn THERE for a sec and teleport where they have been for other players when they were fighting each other

need checking from other players with no bad connection and played with players with bad connection:-
according to what other co-op members have told:
enemies be standing still
enemies have no shield(not sure if it's cryo/electro abyss mage or cryo lawachurl they were referring)
theories from me with no proof:
other players can't apply element to enemies(i usually see venti kazuha burst doesn't get infused with anything and it gets infused by player aura or slimes[kazuha burst gets electro infusion in emblem domain but no cryo infusion in blizzard domain so maybe cryo abyss mage has no shield until it spawns on my side)
players in battle ground within the barrier takes priority aggro'ing enemies over players outside the barrier (but taunt still taunt them over other players)
sometimes enemies' HP bar reset when they spawn for the bad connection player from the dmg dealt by other players before that, and sometimes their HP bar don't reset
attacks from bad connection player side don't hit enemies
buffs from bad connection player still buffs other players (Bennett burst)
↓ • particles spawn when enemies finally spawn
• co-op kazuha E has anemo ring, anemo plunge
• enemy spawned where they spawn and not performing attack animation when spawned
↓• guoba not targeting no one(this is with emblem domain enemy lineup)
• kazuha burst infused electro maybe from electro slime innate aura
• xiangling got hit by invisible electro lawachurl slam attack when it spawns and died
• kazuha burst pyro infused, maybe from guoba like how kazuha can infuse his E plunge with pyro from guoba, and not from yoi coz im cope, cuz yoi looks like attacking at electro slime and can't get rid of electro slime electro aura put pyro aura in that short time :hmm:
• xiangling got hit by invisible electro abyss mage invisible electro ring attack and died 💀
• challenge complete without enemies even spawning in on ny side
• i left before they finish the challenge
• ganyu got energy even though the enemies never spawned on my side
bug+finding+theory: extra infos to what be happening in bad connection player's co-op domain
evidence: barrier doesn't spawn(it spawns late) can run out of barrier
enemies be attacking co-op members with no connection issue as usual (but sometimes enemies just stand still [uncertain])
electro/cryo lawachurl floor slam attacks spawn all at once when they load in and one shot me
certain enemies' attacks can hit me even when they have not load in for me:
-electro abyss mage electro ring attack can hit when the enemy haven't spawn in
-ruin drakes nuke bomb attack, flying ruin drake machine gun attack
-cryo lawachurl ice bombs on the ground
overload aoe dmg caused by enemies onto co-op members can hurt the bad connection player
enemies can die and challenge can be finished before enemies spawn in on bad connection player side
energy particles doesn't spawn until enemies have spawn(but i got particles from nilou in deepwood memories domain tho)
energy regen from raiden burst dori burst works
players outside the barrier can respawn after dying but not sure the mechanic(theory: dying while sticking or close to the barrier, counts as being within the barrier and you don't respawn)
the domain's special effect has no delay
sometimes enemies spawn where they spawn at start when they finally spawn in for bad connection player, sometimes they spawn THERE for a sec and teleport where they have been for other players when they were fighting each other

need checking from other players with no bad connection and played with players with bad connection:-
according to what other co-op members have told:
enemies be standing still
enemies have no shield(not sure if it's cryo/electro abyss mage or cryo lawachurl they were referring)
theories from me with no proof:
other players can't apply element to enemies(i usually see venti kazuha burst doesn't get infused with anything and it gets infused by player aura or slimes[kazuha burst gets electro infusion in emblem domain but no cryo infusion in blizzard domain so maybe cryo abyss mage has no shield until it spawns on my side)
players in battle ground within the barrier takes priority aggro'ing enemies over players outside the barrier (but taunt still taunt them over other players)
sometimes enemies' HP bar reset when they spawn for the bad connection player from the dmg dealt by other players before that, and sometimes their HP bar don't reset
attacks from bad connection player side don't hit enemies
buffs from bad connection player still buffs other players (Bennett burst)
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paichlearThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:46 AM
videos need to be uploaded to youtube or imgur
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:47 AM
↓• guoba not targeting no one(this is with emblem domain enemy lineup)
• kazuha burst infused electro maybe from electro slime innate aura
• xiangling got hit by invisible electro lawachurl slam attack when it spawns and died
https://youtu.be/1O1k4GFXub0
↓• guoba not targeting no one(this is with emblem domain enemy lineup)
• kazuha burst infused electro maybe from electro slime innate aura
• xiangling got hit by invisible electro lawachurl slam attack when it spawns and died
https://youtu.be/v9z9AN0hIkI
• kazuha burst pyro infused, maybe from guoba like how kazuha can infuse his E plunge with pyro from guoba, and not from yoi coz im cope, cuz yoi looks like attacking at electro slime and can't get rid of electro slime electro aura put pyro aura in that short time :hmm:
• xiangling got hit by invisible electro abyss mage invisible electro ring attack and died 💀
https://youtu.be/D_Ahqw8h4HQ
• challenge complete without enemies even spawning in on ny side
• i left before they finish the challenge
• ganyu got energy even though the enemies never spawned on my side
https://youtu.be/ki_LyrGUJpw
https://youtu.be/hHJMamU6WVI
do i wait here for it to be reviewed for any changes or /close for that? :hmm:
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TiBotThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:50 AM
Ticket closed by @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.
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Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Thu, October 27, 2022 at 02:42 AM
Open it, and write down what the general finding of the ticket is
Right now we’ve got like a ton of info, and no organized way to tell what this is about hahaha
And might wanna write a little doc or something to put everything down since it’s a ton of stuff
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 02:48 AM
yeah I was about to say
put everything in a doc
also pls bold and capitalize "bug+finding+theory" and "evidence"
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 02:59 AM
^
this reads like a fever dream
or that you did this while really high
which im pretty sure could be possible ngl
HuTaokek1
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TiBotThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:15 AM
Ticket re-opened by @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:16 AM
:HUH: excusee me
im into trashing this ticket I don't understand what those orders mean
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:18 AM
write something coherent
:crylaughtao:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:18 AM
uhh you know what a google doc is right?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:19 AM
no, i don't know the format yall want
and I don't have goigle on my phone
i only have a phone
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:19 AM
holy shit this was written on phone
:keqomegalul:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:20 AM
I can't tell if every message nzpieface is supposed to be mean
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:20 AM
:KEKpat:
it's supposed to be a neutral tone
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:20 AM
im gonna rewrite another day
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:21 AM
also, specifically
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:21 AM
this an example of a write-up in google doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oI0AO8f4xlu6H8gYx-_2jKbdaknmjnSmh73Tv3fOhDQ/edit#
Result of unequipping or removing artifact set holder during its bo...
Result of unequipping or removing artifact set holder during its bonus effect Finding/Possible Bug(?): Some active bonus timers and entities triggered or generated by a set bonus will end or disappear instantly when any piece is removed or when the holder leaves the party. Such notable team w...
you can open this right?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:21 AM
yeh
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:22 AM
btw
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:22 AM
Click on File then New :WICKED:
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:22 AM
how much of this is high ping and how much of this is mobile genshin being shit
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:22 AM
dk
how do i tell?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:23 AM
:JeanWhat:
Screenshot_20221027-112315_Drive.jpg
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:24 AM
Open in google docs :luminederp:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:24 AM
I don't have google doc on my phonr
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:24 AM
:KEKpat: honestly, it would require you to play on a PC and use a net limiter but whatever
this is phone tc
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:25 AM
I don't have pc
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:25 AM
yeah...
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:25 AM
Yeah :theorycraft:
maybe change "bad connection" to "pepega phone"
:pepela:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:30 AM
I'll just say
evidence: sometimes enemies won't move, can get hit by some invisible attacks, other co-op members can't apply elements to enemies
but only the second one i can prove :barbaraDespair:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:30 AM
what's the difference of high ping and "mobile genshin bullshit" ?
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:30 AM
well
my definition of high ping is like 900+
:crylaughtao:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:31 AM
high ping is your internet is shit
mobile bullshit is your phone is shit
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:31 AM
oh when it's 900+ it's 999 for me and the connection to server is lost/ or abt to be lost :QiqiDeadge:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:32 AM
im asking what does high ping do on game and what mobile genshin being shit do on game
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:34 AM
high ping=dmg not being resister, can't swap char fast, etc...
mobile being shit=nothing spawns until an eternity later
if you can see your co-op mate moving as normal then your ping is fine
just your phone being shit
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:37 AM
ok all these fits my phone is shit
is bad connection high ping?
ty btw casdela :thanks:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:38 AM
yup
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:52 AM
i wanna make sure first, there are things like "enemies doesn't move for other players while they haven't spawn on my side" that i cannot prove coz i can't record it, can it be in the ticket?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:54 AM
it'll happen like that if you're a host right?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:54 AM
it happen whether or not im a host
but I can't see it, and it's not consistent with every co-op
i just get told by co-op members abt what's happening with the enemies
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 03:56 AM
uh every finding should have evidence along side it so if you can't record then just skip that
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 04:00 AM
:keqnote:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 04:17 AM
tbh I need to see the recording to be sure if it's suffice
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makeway4pkThu, October 27, 2022 at 04:18 AM
hm, what to include?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 04:23 AM
you can record it?
well if you can show both perspectives in co-op simultaneously, one with enemies not spawning, and the other with enemies spawned but stand still then it would be great
or just the perspective of enemies standing still, and instruct the other co-op player to not move until they can see the enemies loaded in
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makeway4pkThu, October 27, 2022 at 06:19 AM
I'm not sure but I'll look out for it
kleeok1
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Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Thu, October 27, 2022 at 01:10 PM
I do all my tickets in a phone and play Genshin on my phone so get skilled issued
HuTaokek1
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Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Thu, October 27, 2022 at 01:13 PM
I’m telling you from the get go

This ticket seems to be one of the extremely cursed ones, and it’s going to be really difficult to complete
Also I still don’t understand well what the objective here is
Try to explain it in a short phrase
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nzpiefaceThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:13 PM
oh yeah
the scope of the ticket is too broad
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aAjYwRX3zyxVbVV4F-Vm5CEqxiU-W0UCFgNuKhKGjS8/edit?usp=sharing
Guidelines to Mechanics Theorycrafting
Guidelines to Mechanics Theorycrafting This is written for what KQM does, where a ticket system is used. Find the “theme” of the ticket. This can be anything, though usually, it will be along the lines of investigating a bug, exploring an idea, or finding the exact mechanics of already known mec...
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Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Thu, October 27, 2022 at 01:16 PM
Last thing, we are not trying to be mean if that is how we might come across about. We want to help you make the ticket work, so please don’t take anything here wrongly. If anyone is actually mean they will get called out by other people.
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:20 PM
Looks like every issues in the ticket is actually (shit) Mobile issue, not ping issue
As long as it's acknowledged and the finding + evidence is better summarize I think it'll be a decent ticket
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Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Thu, October 27, 2022 at 01:27 PM
Kinda agree
Never had one of these or at least not that I can clearly remember
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:28 PM
that mean your phone is not shit :luminederp:
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Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Thu, October 27, 2022 at 01:32 PM
It isn’t
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, October 27, 2022 at 01:32 PM
I don't think a lot of mobile players use gaming phone or strong enough phone to be able have the same experience as console and PC gamers
Specially when they are more likely to be casual cuz Hyv want to appeal to casual mobile players
Even low-end PCs will also encounter this problem, so I think it's good to document it
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThu, October 27, 2022 at 06:03 PM
i have only a few video proofs for few of the points below and would appreciate for any video evidence from anyone for the points below
:thanks:
when there's a player playing on a device struggling to load enemies on genshin:
on the "enemies have not loaded in" player's side:
-certain enemy attacks still can hit that player:
•electro abyss mage electro ring attack, it's invisible
•cryo lawachurl mines on the ground attack that does physical dmg that spawn when the lawachurl dashes, the mines are visible
•cryo lawachurl frozen ground damage over time from jumping slam attack, the frozen ground DoT ldoes damage and the frozen ground is visible
•ruin drakes confetti attack, the "confettis" are visible
•ruin drake: skywatch missile barrage attack, the missiles are visible

- there are attacks that accumulates and spawn all at once when/slightly before the enemies spawn:
•electro lawachurl/cryo lawachurl shockwave attack

-no particles will spawn and they all spawn all at once with the enemies

-the co-op menu won't show up when clicking the co-op button after the challenge has started and the timer starts ticking, all buttons on mobile will disappear and it'll remain until the enemies have spawned
•other artifacts/weapons that you're trying to switch with also won't show up until enemies have spawned
•bag/inventory menu doesn't have anything problems above and you can switch gadgets(you can use gadgets like windblume balloons, klee confetti when other player are in combat until enemies have spawned on your side, i use to kind of let other players know I don't have the enemies spawning on my side, although im not sure if they see the balloons or confetti though)

-sheer cold and leyline disorder works normally
• there's no sheer cold starting from the platform to the staircases in the domain

-sometimes when enemy spawn on my side, they spawn with some depletion on their HP bar, sometimes they spawn full health, sometimes they spawn where they spawn normally standing still at beginning, sometimes they spawn at that location for half a sec and teleports somewhere else and are fighting
on other co-op members side where their devices are not choking: (uncertain, needs perspective from their side)

-they can damage enemies
•i see the "enemies left ?/?" number going up and co-op members are attacking at something and shifting to somewhere else after they died, and also sometimes they kill all enemies and complete the challenge while enemies did not spawn on my side throughout

-enemies are standing still(sometimes)

-enemies don't have their shield (cryo abyss mage, electro abyss mage or cryo/electro lawachurl, uncertain which one they are talking about, maybe abyss mage spawn with no shield on for them)
•i see abyss mage get knockback/fall on the ground (like how when their shield is broken) with their shield around them WHEN they just spawned in on my side(so maybe other co-op members were hitting an abyss mage that has no shield spawning on them)

- can't apply elements to the enemy
•when enemy spawn on my side they have no aura on them(sometime)
•kazuha and venti burst doesn't change colour most of the time from my perspective, unless there's someone standing on Bennett burst or kokomi E'd or someone got applied elements by enemies

-enemies HP and shield(abyss mage) reset(sometimes) when spawning on bad device player side
•some rare occasions i see enemy spawn with HP bar with depletion and then it resets to full half a second later
•i see co-op members attacking at something and sometimes even one or few of the enemies have died when the enemies spawn on my side, but the other enemies spawn with full HP bar when my co-op members attacks would have hit more than one of them
[v] electro abyss mage ring
[ ] ruin drakes confetti 2
[v] ruin drake skywatch missile barrage
[  ] cryo lawachurl mines
[  ] electro+cryo lawachurl shockwave >1 at once at spawn
[v] cryo lawachurl shockwave once at spawn
[  ] cryo lawachurl frozen ground dot
[v] particles doesn't spawn until enemy spawn
[  ] artifact switch
[v] bag inventory menu+switch gadget
[v] use balloon, klee confetti popper, wind current bottle
[v] +other menus
[v] pressing co-op menu
[v] sheer cold and staircase path lose sheer cold
[  ] leyline
[  ] emblem cryo/pyro dmg bonus % buff
[v] enemy spawn normal+ fighting/ full hp/>full hp
[v] co-op members kill all enemies
[..] enemies stand still...
[  ] cryo/electro abyss mage/lawachurl don't have shield up...
[  ] abyss mage vulnerable state on the ground with shield on
[v] enemy spawn with no aura when others have been doing elemental attacks
[v] kazuha/venti burst not getting infused
[v] enemy HP bar reset with spawn on mai side
theory/finding/bug: domain enemies don't spawn for players playing on bad device(?) and random things happen

evidence:
*we'll refer to enemy spawning on bad device player's side as the "spawn" with the " "

there are enemies who look normal when "spawned" and doesn't teleport and switch to attacking within a short and unusual interval from spawning(this description for bad device player)(from other player's perspective the enemies are just standing still)
-their HP bar reset upon "spawn"
https://youtu.be/MAvshovJABs
-they were standing still before the "spawn"
-cryo abyss mage has no shield and shield spawn at "spawn"
-enemies DON'T have aura (even electro slimes) and can't be apllied aura
-because enemies don't have and can't be applied aura, kazuha venti burst won't get infusion unless it's a self infusion
https://youtu.be/9EwDlO7_tU4
https://youtu.be/HhDsfJLlb10
-enemies can't be debuffed
https://youtu.be/X20VrVkdPII
https://youtu.be/dehTzMs7pT4
https://youtu.be/SdyT479CWcg
-zhongli burst don't petrify enemy before "spawn"
https://youtu.be/Q4dhYPQaGIw
https://youtu.be/X20VrVkdPII
-lisa burst don't attack enemy don't know why
https://youtu.be/FNbQwfvBMv8
-opening co-op menu/adventurer handbook/battlepass/map/wish menu will get you stuck, all buttons on mobile gone, but don't know if it always continues until enemy "spawn" though
https://youtu.be/hyk0Td2j8U4
https://youtu.be/8LDCDsD7Nzc
https://youtu.be/Vv8FU_mZROM
https://youtu.be/DAdsgiwD4QE
https://youtu.be/vYiWjhV0hPA

-events menu did got me stuck but not until enemies have spawned
https://youtu.be/8xvMMS0aj-c

-characters menu did not get me stuck but can't switch weapons and artifacts cuz the list/menu of other weapons/artifacts to switch with doesn't show up
https://youtu.be/-LE6rJvTCSA
https://youtu.be/DAdsgiwD4QE

-the inventory won't get me stuck and can switch gadgets
https://youtu.be/vlpDhqIfOfQ

-you can use klee confetti gadget, wind current gadget, and windblume balloon gadget(maybe xiao lantern too) and your pet won't hide before enemies "spawn" while co-op teammates are fighting
https://youtu.be/vlpDhqIfOfQ
https://youtu.be/At5-Ig2mdvM
https://youtu.be/qbRN_ZktJpk

-sheer cold accumulate as usual but I can walk out of the battle square and sheer cold meter will go down
https://youtu.be/Gk83vsL7k3I


significance: help prepare your heart 💓💗 when these happen in co-op, hopefully (ps: it doesn't help)
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TiBotFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:06 AM
Ticket closed by @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.
Ticket re-opened by @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:08 AM
:hmm:
don't close this just yet
can you change this ticket name too to be in line with you finding
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TiBotFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:10 AM
This ticket has been renamed to adding info to cope co-op domain experience by @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:11 AM
people said there's a 100k ticket abt this
but it's high ping
so im like "adding" info to it
but mine is like mobile issue
or smtg according to yr explanation
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:12 AM
well yeah it's a different issue
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:12 AM
so idk if it still counts under that same high ping ticket
but i have to be clear, idk what issue caused thesee
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:12 AM
I would count this as a different ticket
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:12 AM
like bad connection, bad wifi, bad device, possible i have all of those
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:14 AM
It's because of bad device
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:14 AM
okay so I'll name it a different ticket than that one
kleeok1
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:15 AM
update the finding too
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TiBotFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:15 AM
This ticket has been renamed to bad device co-op domain experience by @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:16 AM
I think your finding can be format better too :hmm:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:17 AM
the title? or the evidence?
the evidence part i really don't know how to further format
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:19 AM
domain enemies don't spawn for players playing on bad device(?) and random things happen, like...
move this to the Finding, capitalize Evidence
the finding was split because of character limit right?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:20 AM
yes
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:22 AM
-cryo abyss mage has no shield(unsure) and shield spawn at "spawn"?
when abyss mage spawn they'll have a small delay(which is normal) before putting up their shield
so you can remove this
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:24 AM
that's not what that means casdela
i meant like- cryo abyss mage doesn't have a shield on the whole period before it spawns for me from teammates perspective
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:27 AM
:hmmok: that will need footage
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:27 AM
casdela are yall like the ones who verify tickets? or just random chatters? :KeqingThink:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:28 AM
just a chatter for now :DK:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:32 AM
is there a kqm channel for help in co-op TC
i need someone who can help co-op with me and record what it looks for them
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:34 AM
#coop-lounge , remember to read the rules in #coop-readme first
can you pin your finding too
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 08:59 AM
i can't pin it
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:02 AM
there are enemies who look normal when "spawned" and doesn't teleport and switch to attacking within a short and unusual interval from spawning:
maybe change the wording to "Some enemies spawn normally after some time"

and enemies that teleport/be attacking at spawn:
"Some enemies spawn abnormally after some (timeteleport/are attacking at spawn)"

-a lot of the times kazuha burst doesn't get infused
needs to be confirmed from other players perspective
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:06 AM
I'll just keep those first two as is, those are what i want to say
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:06 AM
but this one is in your perspective :luminederp:
https://youtu.be/uzc0nKM7BGY
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:06 AM
thx for checking grammar for me tho casdela :love:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:08 AM
the ones i need teammates perspective are things that don't show up on my side at all, like the enemies. the enemies standing still or not, the abyss mage have shield or not, did the enemy hp bar reset or not, coz i can't see the enemies
no way kazuha burst not infused on my side hut jnfused on their side, then there would be applying two different elements on my side and different elements on their side, and doesn't make sense :HUH:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:10 AM
I just kinda doubt that in their perspective the burst doesn't get infused
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:11 AM
why?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:13 AM
because if that's true there would be uproar already :luminederp:
lots of players co-op with ppl with bad devices all the time
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:15 AM
casdela ICANT
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:16 AM
where do i find that?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:16 AM
"if"
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:16 AM
casdela stop with the ifs
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:17 AM
for this video, at the end
you can see when the enemy spawn and then got hit by cryo attack, the kazuha burst got infused with cryo the moment it happened
and if it got infused with another element before that, and then when enemy spawn it was uninfused anemo burst, then cryo infused again, that would just make kazuha burst change state thrice for the teammates side
that's way too far cas
im tired :QiqiDeadge:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:20 AM
hmm ok then paste that explaination into your finding because if not me , someone else will ask that
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:20 AM
ask what??
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:21 AM
just to be sure
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:22 AM
?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:22 AM
ask to confirm it happen with other players cough NZ cough
he would ask that
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:23 AM
then they'd ask abt so many things here just to be sure icant
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:23 AM
yup :DK:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:23 AM
what?
what did that sentence mean
do u mean instead of you asking those question NZpieface would ask if u didn't?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:24 AM
NZPIEFACE would probably ask you to confirm it happen with other players
yes
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:26 AM
@nzpieface ?
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nzpiefaceFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:28 AM
i mean the only question i have is "is this reproduceable by other people"
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:30 AM
reproduce what?
oh do you mean if this situation only happens on me?
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nzpiefaceFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:31 AM
yeah
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:31 AM
or the kazuha burst not getting infused specifically?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:32 AM
can you co-op rn?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:33 AM
yes, asia
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:36 AM
818052460
join me I'll use Kaz
let's see if it infuses or not
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:37 AM
oke
wait
waitt
I can't find
yr acc
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 09:40 AM
818052460
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:20 AM
the ones are the third and fourth link
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:21 AM
this one https://youtu.be/ubhtZC_yhnU
don't you find it weird in 18s its HP drops to 2/3
but within 5s after its HP bar showed up it drops to 1/3
I suspect its HP did reset
but the HP doesn't show up the same time as when it spawns
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:24 AM
you talking abt how the hp bar dropping so faast
?
i think that's the delayed ayaka burst dmg
showing up on the hp bar
like there's a ruin drake missile vid
the missile hit me but the damage is delayed
i think it's just delayed
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:25 AM
I'm blind :luminederp:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:25 AM
you are nott
casdela
it's a lot
A LOT DIFFERENT
then normal genshin
cas
oh
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:27 AM
you said there's a lot of bad devices coop have u seen anything like this
?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:28 AM
I don't co-op recently so I'm not sure
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:28 AM
ok
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:29 AM
I feel like it doesn't happen before? But my memory is not to be trust
or I've never co-op someone with this much delay in spawn time
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:31 AM
omg i am unique
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:32 AM
i just watched the two videos why do i move like taht 😭
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:33 AM
ok the finding needs to be rewrite again, it happens for anyone in co-op party as long as one of them has a bad device
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:34 AM
huhh
it is alrd what??
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:35 AM
except the delay spawn part, everyone experience HP reset, no aura, no infusion
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:35 AM
it doesn't happen as long as there's a pkayer with bad device
sometimes the enemies attack as normal
and don't stand still
like in yr video
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:37 AM
I should have re-read your finding again :hmm:
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:37 AM
did you not read it :HUH:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:38 AM
it's way up there
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:39 AM
@wrong ping can you pin this pls the ticket author can't pin :kokomiShy:
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wrong pingFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:39 AM
:kleeok:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:39 AM
thanks mina :kikin:
I will upload those vids on yt
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:41 AM
thanks cas
can i call u cas :hmm:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:42 AM
yeah sure
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what else needed footage?
regarding Kaz burst infusion, the reason it doesn't infuse is because the enemies don't have aura (1st vid) and can't be swirl (2nd vid)
so in 2nd vid Kaz self infuse with Bennett burst but can't swirl pyro into enemies
this part should be update in the finding
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:47 AM
yea :keqnote:
the enemy have no aura, can't be apply aura part is neww
thx so much cas
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:49 AM
I'll ping you when the vids is ready
so everything else has footage already?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 10:53 AM
wait I'll need time for this, maybe even tmr, im exhausted
kleeok1
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaFri, October 28, 2022 at 11:11 AM
i need footage for zhongli burst whether it petrifies enemies or not, and also footage for whether the pet, balloon, and confetti are visible on other player's perspective :hmm: