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c6-faruzan-coop-pressurized-collapse
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AnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM
Finding: C6 Faruzan's Pressurized Collapse cooldown is not shared between Co-op party members, allowing multiple to trigger simultaneously with separate ICD [1]. Additionally, the number of Pressurized Collapses can exceed the number of players in the party [2].
Evidence:
1. https://youtu.be/ad5LP4PH_z8 - Pressurized Collapse triggering on 5 enemies (0:09) - Note: 100% CRIT Rate
2. https://youtu.be/KtYFAG9FBaQ - 5 Pressurized Collapse triggers with 3 players in Co-op.
Significance: Unexpected DPS potential for Faru an in Co-op, particularly in AoE.
Evidence:
1. https://youtu.be/ad5LP4PH_z8 - Pressurized Collapse triggering on 5 enemies (0:09) - Note: 100% CRIT Rate
2. https://youtu.be/KtYFAG9FBaQ - 5 Pressurized Collapse triggers with 3 players in Co-op.
Significance: Unexpected DPS potential for Faru an in Co-op, particularly in AoE.
i couldnt find anything similar in library, though theres this:
heres the instance where there were 5 collapses (timestamp 0:09) purely from Q, no E
no clue how or why that happens and i could be mistaken, but that could be a separate finding it is twisted enough 
testing w less than 4p and seems to still trigger on all enemies taking dmg 
( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:20 PM
anrumu is back
anrumu is backAnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:21 PM
cas 
hope uve been well 
( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:21 PM
u too
u tooAnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:21 PM
uni is undoing my sanity but we getting there 
lets hope these findings dont spiral out of control
( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:22 PM
surely 
AnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:22 PM
is it possible for an enemy to be marked with multiple collapses
cuz what if there are 4 faruzans at c6
the damage is already quadratic once every 3s
( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, August 1, 2023 at 12:40 PM
if we could gather 2+ C6 faru we can test that out
if we could gather 2+ C6 faru we can test that outAnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 01:06 PM
time to recruit tmrw 
is_this_maddieTue, August 1, 2023 at 03:50 PM
anmaru 
cas has c6 faru
AnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 09:08 PM
perfect 
lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Tue, August 1, 2023 at 09:16 PM
i hv c6 on NA if u need more people
AnmaruTue, August 1, 2023 at 10:47 PM
yup thats perfect, thank you
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This channel hasn't been active in the past week!( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, August 9, 2023 at 12:42 AM
Rip uni got anmaru 
AnmaruWed, August 9, 2023 at 12:51 AM
im sorry it happened again
ill draft up a list of things to test in coop so we can try out
🐟Wed, August 9, 2023 at 10:43 AMI have C6 Faru too if anyone else is on EU
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makeway4pkFri, August 11, 2023 at 11:08 AM
I have one on Asia1
1AnmaruThu, August 17, 2023 at 11:25 AM
1. Test: Given that multiple Pressurized Collapses can occur simultaneously, does this bypass the 5.5s CD for particle generation? (If not, then which instance of Pressurized Collapse starts the CD?)
- Test: Is there a limit to the number of Pressurized Collapses that can occur simultaneously? (Currently only tested up to 5 enemies) - Method: Gather more than 5 enemies and damage them simultaneously, e.g.: Nahida’s E
- Test: Does a party with multiple Faruzans increase the number of Pressurized Collapses (per enemy)?
- Test: Is ICD shared across all Pressurized Collapses?
- Test: Is there a limit to the number of Pressurized Collapses that can occur simultaneously? (Currently only tested up to 5 enemies) - Method: Gather more than 5 enemies and damage them simultaneously, e.g.: Nahida’s E
- Test: Does a party with multiple Faruzans increase the number of Pressurized Collapses (per enemy)?
- Test: Is ICD shared across all Pressurized Collapses?
very preliminary set of tests
feel free to suggest more but i reckon this is alr plenty to look into
CozenMon, August 21, 2023 at 01:56 PM
Do you still need someone to test this with? I have a C6 Faru on NA as well so feel free to ping me when you want to try it out
AnmaruTue, August 22, 2023 at 08:03 AM
yo would be keen, i doubt everyone would be free on the same day
ill be free this weekend so ill ping u and the others
found [3] in my downtime where the simultaneous collapses can be triggered by all players players except the player with faruzan. will record later but the methodology is:
- 2 player coop
- 1p faruzan q, then dmg multiple enemies -> observe only one collapse
- 2p dmg multiple enemies -> observe multiple collapses
- 2 player coop
- 1p faruzan q, then dmg multiple enemies -> observe only one collapse
- 2p dmg multiple enemies -> observe multiple collapses
need to check whether this is the same when 1p swaps to a different character, but i doubt itll be any different
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This channel hasn't been active in the past week!is_this_maddieThu, September 7, 2023 at 09:57 PM
@Anmaru hi
AnmaruThu, September 7, 2023 at 10:38 PM
hi yes sorry for the continued absense
sorry for the continued absensejust checking in from last time, would u guys still be interested to do some tests this weekend on NA? @( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela @lin // play ffxx :ratpoint: @Cozen
AnmaruThu, September 7, 2023 at 10:41 PM
i can probably refine this list to include methods and we can prolly smash it out in an hr or less
CozenThu, September 7, 2023 at 10:42 PM
Yeah I'm down just let me know when
AnmaruThu, September 7, 2023 at 10:42 PM
perfect
we can fill this in if some of u guys are busy at certain times this weekend tho: https://www.when2meet.com/?21252589-zanqj
lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Thu, September 7, 2023 at 10:51 PM
i filled in the when2meet 
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1( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, September 8, 2023 at 01:14 AM
I'm on asia server 
AnmaruFri, September 8, 2023 at 05:15 AM
😭
sorry cas
ur c6 faru will be w us in spirit
Yo @lin // play ffxx :ratpoint: @Cozen would u guys be keen <t:1694332800:R>?
lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Sat, September 9, 2023 at 08:27 PM
that's 4am my time 
if my sleep sched is messed up i might be awake but i cannot guarantee 
AnmaruSat, September 9, 2023 at 08:59 PM
4am
Its ok then, we can do testing w two people then find another time once we have better findings
I'll ping again when we do if thats alright w u
lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Sat, September 9, 2023 at 09:14 PM
sure!
can also try coop search im sure someone has c6 faru out there
CozenSat, September 9, 2023 at 09:47 PM
That's also 4am for me but f it I'll probably be awake 
AnmaruSun, September 10, 2023 at 06:50 AM
ah dang
no pressure tho aye
i can ask around #coop-lounge and #tc-discussion yeye
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This channel hasn't been active in the past week!AnmaruSun, September 17, 2023 at 09:09 AM
maybe i should recruit someone from faruzan mains 
Not Logic (really)Mon, September 18, 2023 at 10:24 AM
I have c6 on NA if you still need
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🐟Mon, September 18, 2023 at 01:08 PMAm I the only EU C6 Faruzan
but yeah this would be interesting to get evidence on
MizuduMon, September 18, 2023 at 11:25 PM
I wish I could help but mine's only c1 
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1lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Tue, September 19, 2023 at 01:41 AM
what time frame are u usually available to test this? would be helpful to figure out if someone is generally avail or not 
AnmaruTue, September 19, 2023 at 02:46 AM
yeah sorry im just getting toppled by uni work so i havent been managing this very well
im just getting toppled by uni work so i havent been managing this very wellthanks for your support tho
AnmaruTue, September 19, 2023 at 02:47 AM
i think thats a good idea, we could honestly do a general availability when2meet as well throughout the week
lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Tue, September 19, 2023 at 02:48 AM
maybe just list your general availability? since you're non-negotiable
then whoever has c6 faru and is available arnd that time can volunteer
AnmaruTue, September 19, 2023 at 02:49 AM
true, that sounds good
we only really need 1-2 people
let me get the unix brb
Availability for testing (cuz projects dont sleep):
- Days: Tue, Wed, Thu, Sun (GMT+13)
- Times: 8pm-12am (New Zealand Time)
- Days: Tue, Wed, Thu, Sun (GMT+13)
- Times: 8pm-12am (New Zealand Time)
AnmaruTue, September 19, 2023 at 02:54 AM
yeahh thatd be great if ur available
is_this_maddieTue, September 19, 2023 at 09:12 PM
+13 
isnt that -11
isnt that -11
mafuyamaTue, September 19, 2023 at 09:56 PM
no the days change
is_this_maddieTue, September 19, 2023 at 09:59 PM
I feel like that's not how it works
mafuyamaTue, September 19, 2023 at 10:19 PM
a country switched from -11 to +13 before and they skipped a day. it is exactly how it works lol
https://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_samoa06.html#:~:text=Samoa%20(Apia)%20will%20change%20timezone,American%20Samoa%20(Pago%20Pago).
https://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_samoa06.html#:~:text=Samoa%20(Apia)%20will%20change%20timezone,American%20Samoa%20(Pago%20Pago).
DST News - Samoa to switch time zones from UTC-11 to UTC+13
Samoa to switch time zones from UTC-11 to UTC+13
is_this_maddieTue, September 19, 2023 at 10:19 PM
stop fucking with the day changing line smh
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3AnmaruWed, September 20, 2023 at 07:43 AM
we shifting from +12 to +13 in 4 days cuz daylight savings so i just said +13
Gonna try record test 4 tn and tmrw after patch drop
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@Anmaru
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effab1eWed, October 11, 2023 at 02:43 AM
@Anmaru any work going on or should we move to archive, the ticket has been stagnant for a while
AnmaruWed, October 11, 2023 at 06:44 PM
Sorry i ended up not having time to arrange stuff and prob won't for the next two weeks
I've modified the existing findings to be standalone so they can be submitted to the library as is
Someone else or i can continue on the tests another day
Lmk if there's anything to change up w the ticket, but otherwise we're good to go
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