cata-plunge-sometimes-destroy-bush

KQM | Genshin Impact

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TiBotFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:19 PM

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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:20 PM

Finding: Hydro and pyro are the only elements where catalysts can destroy bushes through plunges, but they do it differently.
-Hydro plunges cause the bush to wobble, and on the second plunge in short succession will destroy the bush; if this mechanic is thought of as stacks, the stack can be transferred between different characters.
-Pyro catalyst plunges always set the bush on fire, regardless of if the bush was already affected by one previous hydro catalyst plunge (had a "stack"). A second plunge will not cause the bush to wobble nor will it destroy the bush.
The above conclusions are unaffected by rain weather.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/uE2hC_bebcM (Kokomi, Barbara, Nahida, Heizou),
https://youtu.be/aYd0yEtupnI (Ningguang, Charlotte, Lisa)
https://youtu.be/HdCP5f7R_dk (Mona, credits to Acerbus)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220738624384008232/1220758497302679552/NeuviPlunge.mp4?ex=66101af2&is=65fda5f2&hm=b92a0e70d35a761a581e6c917d1ab56ccfdf6e2d10f5b13b33c1c0b067e2292f& (Neuv, credit to soul_fish)
https://youtu.be/o_kzRm266a4 (rain test)
https://youtu.be/oibFOe3n8rQ (stack transfer)
https://youtu.be/MR999YN5Rsg (Klee, credits to petrb)
https://youtu.be/NjPHIDj-L6Q (Yanfei double plunge, credits to petrb)
Significance: Fluff

plunge bush - kok, barb, nahida, heizou

geo cryo electro bushplunge

mona also hates veggies

plunge rain test

(i dont have neuv to test him, and my conclusion of "as opposed to other catalysts" is limited)

TiBotFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:21 PM

This ticket has been renamed to cata plunge sometimes destroy bush by @Whalien | Despises Crafting

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:22 PM

tested: charlotte, nahida, heizou, sucrose, ningguang, lisa (none of whom destroy)

just remembered i have mona somewhere so i can test her. also yanfei is a bit strange

https://youtu.be/EeOPu-0DwJ4

plunge bush - yanfei

yanfei's is a bit weird because her plunge clearly "shakes" the bush, which is present in both kok and barb's plunges and not others e.g. nahida or heizou

however, kok and barb both destroy the bush in two plunges, and yanfei applies pyro to the bush. whether she does it to an "unharmed" bush or a "harmed" one, she does not destroy it by plunge, but by pyro. so it's ??? as to whether she can destroy it

ᴀᴄᴇʀʙᴜꜱ | jealous typeFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:32 PM

Mona too. So it's a hydro cats thingy?
https://youtu.be/HdCP5f7R_dk

mona also hates veggies

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:33 PM

oh ty i was just about to grab footage for it

i dont have neuv so cant test

ᴀᴄᴇʀʙᴜꜱ | jealous typeFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:33 PM

same

yae and wrio don't destroy the bushes from my testing
do you want me to take a record for it?

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:35 PM

eh should be fine

if verifier requests it ill pong you

but recording every char's plunge sounds

ᴀᴄᴇʀʙᴜꜱ | jealous typeFri, March 22, 2024 at 02:37 PM

we only have this many

🐟Fri, March 22, 2024 at 02:52 PM

Did you need Neuvi footage?

but mmh, he does destroy them so I suppose it would be hydro catalysts do not actually fertilize plants

instead they murder them?

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🐟: Did you need Neuvi footage?

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 03:12 PM

yea neuv footage would be great

im still. curious about whether klee or yanfei can destroy, but i doubt there's any way to find out

🐟Fri, March 22, 2024 at 03:38 PM

You can upload this, as for pyro mh

I don't think they do, since they should break before they get set on fire?

if you hit it once first

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 04:26 PM

thing is they have the "wobble" which the hydro catalysts cause too

so it's kinda

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🐟: You can upload this, as for pyro mh

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 04:27 PM

im just gonna link it in the message and then if it's requested i upload to yt ill do that

TiBotFri, March 22, 2024 at 09:06 PM

@Whalien | Despises Crafting added @🐟 as contributor

@Whalien | Despises Crafting added @ᴀᴄᴇʀʙᴜꜱ | jealous type as contributor

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 09:06 PM

hopefully that doesnt ping yall

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Whalien | Despises Crafting: hopefully that doesnt ping yall

cara | the humble mold spore🦠Fri, March 22, 2024 at 09:07 PM

record in rain

now u will rmbr

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, March 22, 2024 at 09:07 PM

true!

🐟Sat, March 23, 2024 at 07:43 AM

in rain it still starts burning

fwiw

doesn't put it out either kek

Whalien | Despises CraftingSat, March 23, 2024 at 11:37 AM

Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betSun, March 24, 2024 at 04:36 AM

Finally, another useless ticket

Whalien | Despises CraftingMon, March 25, 2024 at 03:01 PM

hopefully one that doesnt get stuck in open hell. hopefully genshin gives me rain at some point

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Whalien | Despises Crafting: hopefully one that doesnt get stuck in open hell. hopefully genshin gives me rain at some point

🐟Mon, March 25, 2024 at 03:10 PM

find someone who hasn't cleared yashiori quest for perma thunderstorm maybe

TiBotMon, April 1, 2024 at 03:15 PM

This channel hasn't been active in the past week!

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, April 3, 2024 at 02:01 AM

oops

TiBotWed, April 10, 2024 at 02:15 AM

This channel hasn't been active in the past week!

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, April 10, 2024 at 06:14 AM

ᴀᴄᴇʀʙᴜꜱ | jealous typeWed, April 10, 2024 at 12:44 PM

what's left to be tested?

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🐟: find someone who hasn't cleared yashiori quest for perma thunderstorm maybe

🐟Wed, April 10, 2024 at 12:53 PM

this I think?

but I did testing in random rain and it still was set on fire

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, April 10, 2024 at 03:46 PM

Rain stuff ye

Mostly
-does hydro cata plunge on bush in rain need 1 or 2 plunges
-pyro cata plunge on bush in rain—?????????

ok so i was in the middle of doing schoolwork when i realized it was raining so excuse the skill issue since i didnt know when it would let up and so did stuff really quickly and really skissue

https://youtu.be/o_kzRm266a4

plunge rain test

so uh yea not affected by rain. including the fact that bushes can be set on fire in rain

https://youtu.be/oibFOe3n8rQ

plunge - stack transfer

also realized i should make a vid of this

is the ticket ok now?

🐟Fri, April 12, 2024 at 02:58 PM

If you gather everything into the evidence post that you can pin before you close, I think you have everything you need?

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, April 12, 2024 at 04:08 PM

it's already pinned (?)

🐟Fri, April 12, 2024 at 06:38 PM

Could use text formatting but yeah, all evidence is there so you can close when you wish

Whalien | Despises CraftingFri, April 12, 2024 at 07:56 PM

formatting..? sorry, im not familiar

🐟Sat, April 13, 2024 at 10:32 AM

Just, making the finding easier to read, it's not something you have to do but you have just 1 block of text rn

Whalien | Despises CraftingSat, April 13, 2024 at 02:22 PM

not sure if this is better?

cara | the humble mold spore🦠Sun, April 14, 2024 at 09:01 PM

what am i checking

that looks fine

formatring

Whalien | Despises CraftingSun, April 14, 2024 at 09:11 PM

awesome ty

TiBotSun, April 14, 2024 at 09:11 PM

Ticket closed by @Whalien | Despises Crafting. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.

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Whalien | Despises Crafting: Finding: Hydro and pyro are the only elements where catalysts can destroy bushes through plunges, but they do it differently.

jamberry since yall r confusedThu, May 2, 2024 at 06:40 AM

I don't really want to verify "the only elements" when I only see testing across like 4 elements

can someone check Klee too as opposed to yanfei

to see if it's same

ideally you check all catas but I'd verify based off 1 per element + all hydro (done) + all pyro (Klee?)

TiBotThu, May 2, 2024 at 02:21 PM

Ticket re-opened by @Whalien | Despises Crafting

🐟Thu, May 2, 2024 at 02:22 PM

I was using Klee when I set bushes on fire in the rain

but I suppose I didn't record that

Whalien | Despises CraftingThu, May 2, 2024 at 03:12 PM

https://youtu.be/aYd0yEtupnI

geo cryo electro bushplunge

added to original message

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Whalien | Despises Crafting: added to original message

jamberry since yall r confusedWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:01 PM

what abt klee

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:08 PM

I don’t have Klee

haafrWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:08 PM

@Mushmaxxing Era go test

klee plunge on bush

clever ishWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:08 PM

I can test

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:09 PM

I need to record too ig right

haafrWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:10 PM

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:11 PM

It shakes but doesnt break instantly, need YT for evidence right

haafrWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:12 PM

yup

it doesn't burn?

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:12 PM

it does

Ill just show

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:13 PM

according to original finding, pyro cata should cause it to wobble as well as light on fire, and after some time itll poof; this is true also in the rain

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:13 PM

I have the proof, Im uploading

https://youtu.be/MR999YN5Rsg

Klee plunge kills bush

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:14 PM

despite hydro plunges being on a two-plunge system--two plunges in succession, even from different chars, will kill a bush--even if a bush is damaged by a hydro plunge beforehand pyro plunge wont do shit

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jamberry since yall r confused: what abt klee

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:14 PM

is this good enough or do you need rain as well

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Whalien | Despises Crafting: is this good enough or do you need rain as well

jamberry since yall r confusedWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:15 PM

is she consistent w yanfei

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:15 PM

Need I record

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:15 PM

the one case in the video is

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:15 PM

she is

Should I try plunging one bush twice with Klee

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:17 PM

huh. that's not something i considered

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:19 PM

wtf it doesnt kill it

I suppose burning the bush turns it into something else within the code kinda?

https://youtu.be/NjPHIDj-L6Q

Yanfei double plunge

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:25 PM

conclusion amended and link added

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:33 PM

does that mean I can get salmon now that Ive helped with a ticket

jamberry since yall r confusedWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:44 PM

mayhaps

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Whalien | Despises Crafting: conclusion amended and link added

jamberry since yall r confusedWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:44 PM

anything else needed?

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:45 PM

doubt?

i dont see anything, do you

jamberry since yall r confusedWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:45 PM

not RN but I'm at work so I'm not watching the videos just trusting you

Whalien | Despises CraftingWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:45 PM

ill just. close it and take the yelling if something goes awry

TiBotWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:46 PM

Ticket closed by @Whalien | Despises Crafting. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:46 PM

I can try triple jump too

but since the second didnt shake it..

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Mushmaxxing Era: but since the second didnt shake it..

jamberry since yall r confusedWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:47 PM

knock urself out ig

let's set a new record for how many times we can make whale open and close a single ticket

Mushmaxxing EraWed, May 8, 2024 at 07:47 PM