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character-dmg-within-8s-of-sprint-20-abyss-card-buff-does-not-snapshot
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TiBotThu, April 27, 2023 at 01:36 AM
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ΛeoпdгewThu, April 27, 2023 at 01:48 AM
Theory/Finding/Bug: The +20% DMG buff given by the "Character DMG within 8s of sprint +20%" Abyss card does not snapshot
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN0UOwut8vY
When this Abyss buff is selected, sprinting after Fischl has cast her Elemental Skill increases Oz's damage on CRIT from 7207 to 7894. After the buff expires, as seen on the bottom of the screen, Oz's damage returns to 7207.
Significance: More data on what does and does not snapshot. Because this buff does not snapshot, it will not last for the full duration of longer snapshotting abilities, such as Fischl's Skill or Ganyu's Burst. Teams whose snapshotting abilities do the majority of their damage later in the rotation should avoid activating this buff too early; otherwise, it will expire before the point where it would be most effective.
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN0UOwut8vY
When this Abyss buff is selected, sprinting after Fischl has cast her Elemental Skill increases Oz's damage on CRIT from 7207 to 7894. After the buff expires, as seen on the bottom of the screen, Oz's damage returns to 7207.
Significance: More data on what does and does not snapshot. Because this buff does not snapshot, it will not last for the full duration of longer snapshotting abilities, such as Fischl's Skill or Ganyu's Burst. Teams whose snapshotting abilities do the majority of their damage later in the rotation should avoid activating this buff too early; otherwise, it will expire before the point where it would be most effective.
anju06Thu, April 27, 2023 at 01:50 AM
was gonna say have you checked Character details but i realised you can't do that in abyss
but ye buffs that don't show up in character detail page can't be snapshoted
rarepossumThu, April 27, 2023 at 01:51 AM
tbf not all generic damage bonus is dynamic. Looking at you spine
Except Serpent Spine
anju06Thu, April 27, 2023 at 01:52 AM
unless it specifically says ELEMENTAL DMG or PHYSICAL DMG, that kind of All Dmg buff is not snapshotable
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ΛeoпdгewThu, April 27, 2023 at 01:52 AM
TCL says that in general, effects that increase all DMG do snapshot despite not showing up in character details (Serpent Spine, Alley Flash, PJWS), with some exceptions
anju06Thu, April 27, 2023 at 01:53 AM
they are the exceptions
because they kinda like, have stacks
rarepossumThu, April 27, 2023 at 01:54 AM
That should be the otherway around, most don't, with exceptions
f99shiThu, April 27, 2023 at 01:55 AM
there shouldnt even be an exception
ΛeoпdгewThu, April 27, 2023 at 02:03 AM
(https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/combat-mechanics/snapshot-and-dynamic This is what I was referencing from the TCL, by the way)
Snapshot and Dynamic | KQM TCL
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f99shiThu, April 27, 2023 at 02:11 AM
nvm, there are 2 ways that all dmg bonus is coded, one is snapshottable and one isnt
ena6013Thu, April 27, 2023 at 10:59 AM
TiBotThu, May 4, 2023 at 11:00 AM
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is_this_maddieThu, May 4, 2023 at 08:03 PM
@Λeoпdгew is this getting updates or should it be closed
ΛeoпdгewThu, May 4, 2023 at 08:04 PM
If no one else has any additional feedback I'm ready to submit this
TiBotFri, May 5, 2023 at 12:36 AM
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.🐟Fri, May 5, 2023 at 03:05 PM
Just 1 source, but it looks fine enough at least
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