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chiori-basic-mechanics
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TiBotWed, March 13, 2024 at 01:54 AM
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🐟Wed, March 13, 2024 at 01:54 AM
Chiori Basic Mechanics Ticket
Put all mechanics findings for Chiori here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.
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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:
Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics
Put all mechanics findings for Chiori here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.
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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:
Finding:
Evidence:
Significance:Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics
Finding: Chiori can perform a plunge attack regardless of the dash height when using her hE
Evidence: https://youtu.be/68eybo5fdJc
Significance: Skill mechanics
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Evidence: https://youtu.be/68eybo5fdJc
Significance: Skill mechanics
1Finding: Chiori C2 will spawn 3 "Kinu" automatons per burst
Evidence: https://youtu.be/JdvUognOK8s
Significance: C2 mechanics1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/JdvUognOK8s
Significance: C2 mechanics
1Finding: Chiori C1 specifically checks for a geo character that is not Chiori to be present, so multiple Chioris will not work to trigger her C1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/7OWClxqo3Xg
Significance: Co-op mechanics, C1 mechanics1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/7OWClxqo3Xg
Significance: Co-op mechanics, C1 mechanics
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.magnusartifexWed, March 13, 2024 at 02:40 PM
Finding: Chiori skill allows to switch characters in midair
Evidence: https://youtu.be/yq8OH9KKlH0
Significance: gliding powercreep1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/yq8OH9KKlH0
Significance: gliding powercreep
1🐟Wed, March 13, 2024 at 03:31 PM
Finding: Chiori spawns an additional Tamoto based on the Tamoto's proximity to a geo construct instead of her own
Evidence: https://youtu.be/qE6qKzCKUqI
Significance: Understanding skill mechanics and when the additional construct spawns
Bonus: if someone wants to record this without C1 as it doesn't display properly to move in co-op1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/qE6qKzCKUqI
Significance: Understanding skill mechanics and when the additional construct spawns
Bonus: if someone wants to record this without C1 as it doesn't display properly to move in co-op
1🐟Wed, March 13, 2024 at 03:34 PM
Finding: Each Chiori can have 2 of their own Tamoto doll in co-op
Evidence: https://youtu.be/felcp1dULx0
Significance: Tamoto party! Though 8 is impossible due to how her C1 works1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/felcp1dULx0
Significance: Tamoto party! Though 8 is impossible due to how her C1 works
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McpieWed, March 13, 2024 at 04:51 PM
Finding: Chiori's passive for movement speed does not stack with Rosaria
Evidence: Videos here, too lazy to merge them but it's basically same length (1 frame diff)
Significance: Chiori is perma movement speed buff so Rosaria/Dehya are now obsolete in artifact routes
inb4: not uploading to youtube, just posting in case someone wants to check
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Evidence: Videos here, too lazy to merge them but it's basically same length (1 frame diff)
Significance: Chiori is perma movement speed buff so Rosaria/Dehya are now obsolete in artifact routes
inb4: not uploading to youtube, just posting in case someone wants to check
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hearttofhopeWed, March 13, 2024 at 08:15 PM
Finding: Chiori's Tapestry effect ignores swap cooldown
Evidence: https://youtu.be/227AX_zz0NY (swapped to zhongli with 0.2s left on swap cooldown)
Significance: A1 mechanics, 2nd shortest field time character after c2 baizhu?
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Evidence: https://youtu.be/227AX_zz0NY (swapped to zhongli with 0.2s left on swap cooldown)
Significance: A1 mechanics, 2nd shortest field time character after c2 baizhu?
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🎵 Puffin 🎶Thu, March 14, 2024 at 04:17 PM
Finding: Chiori burst is 2U of Geo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/xwIB5wVrtGk
Significance: EGT stuff, also a lesson why you should never use test run to experiment w gauges
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Evidence: https://youtu.be/xwIB5wVrtGk
Significance: EGT stuff, also a lesson why you should never use test run to experiment w gauges
Chiori Burst is 2U Geo
Bennett applies 1.6U pyro at 3.66 seconds
Chiori bursts at about 5.17 seconds
Geo dmg occurs at about 6.86 seconds
Pyro gauge runs out at about 8.38 seconds (~1.52 sec later)
Without any other elemental application, Bennett E pyro should last 12 seconds on an innate auraless enemy (1.6U x 7.5sec/U). Pyro stayed on the enemy for about 4.72 secon...
Chiori bursts at about 5.17 seconds
Geo dmg occurs at about 6.86 seconds
Pyro gauge runs out at about 8.38 seconds (~1.52 sec later)
Without any other elemental application, Bennett E pyro should last 12 seconds on an innate auraless enemy (1.6U x 7.5sec/U). Pyro stayed on the enemy for about 4.72 secon...
1hearttofhopeThu, March 14, 2024 at 09:03 PM
Finding: Geo Samachurl's rock pillars count as a construct, and so C0 Chiori summons 2 dolls when it's around
Evidence: https://youtu.be/vD9p_SEnMTs
Significance: Geo samachurl in abyss when?
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Evidence: https://youtu.be/vD9p_SEnMTs
Significance: Geo samachurl in abyss when?
61Adding into the above:
Finding: Geo Hypostasis' pillars and Cryo Samachurl's icicles also count
Evidence: https://youtu.be/uDVz89LnMr0
Significance: What is a Geo Construct?1
Finding: Geo Hypostasis' pillars and Cryo Samachurl's icicles also count
Evidence: https://youtu.be/uDVz89LnMr0
Significance: What is a Geo Construct?
1🐟Sat, March 16, 2024 at 02:50 AM
Finding: Swapping Chiori off-field manually during her Tailor-Made talent window will cause neither effect to take place
Tamoto dolls can also be repositioned using certain abilities like Kazuha skill
Evidence: https://youtu.be/4MpaQVHsfnY
Significance: You always want to manually trigger a follow-up effect, as swapping will cause her A1 to disappear (it will also by extension not trigger her C6 CD reduction)
It is possible to move dolls into range of enemies if needed?
Clarifying talent mechanics, Tamoto mechanics1
Tamoto dolls can also be repositioned using certain abilities like Kazuha skill
Evidence: https://youtu.be/4MpaQVHsfnY
Significance: You always want to manually trigger a follow-up effect, as swapping will cause her A1 to disappear (it will also by extension not trigger her C6 CD reduction)
It is possible to move dolls into range of enemies if needed?
Clarifying talent mechanics, Tamoto mechanics
1Finding: Chiori C6 applies to all her NA damage, not just following her Tailor-Made follow-up effects
Evidence: https://youtu.be/I1eOI0pprpM
Significance: Clarifying mechanics, as wording can be ambiguous1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/I1eOI0pprpM
Significance: Clarifying mechanics, as wording can be ambiguous
1Finding: Tamoto has 3 expressions it can have
There is a ~70% chance for it to have the closed eye expression and ~15% for either of the others.
Evidence: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTckqtHp4qER45qW1pELulz7QzpydMjjWLPk47MlmwbvRjKAT51ntEOqPQ-7Wz_AWfAb1T8BgLVDx_O/pubhtml# - collected 1000 skill uses with 2 dolls per spawn
Significance: Tamoto TC (image attached for quick view)
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There is a ~70% chance for it to have the closed eye expression and ~15% for either of the others.
Evidence: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTckqtHp4qER45qW1pELulz7QzpydMjjWLPk47MlmwbvRjKAT51ntEOqPQ-7Wz_AWfAb1T8BgLVDx_O/pubhtml# - collected 1000 skill uses with 2 dolls per spawn
Significance: Tamoto TC (image attached for quick view)
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target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:32 PM
Would it be okay if someone else uploaded to yt and credited you?
McpieFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:36 PM
don't need the credit, just upload
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1just tired of my youtube channel having 400 genshin videos for tc reasons
🐟Fri, May 10, 2024 at 01:18 PM
target the mustache hatSat, May 11, 2024 at 02:58 AM
finding: frames
evidence: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XHPuw9CDIFaeiJ1xQAH7VOPqKAIqipyL62RHxp9hbNg/edit?usp=sharing
significance: frames
credit: @703753927488831593 @290820916051705868
evidence: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XHPuw9CDIFaeiJ1xQAH7VOPqKAIqipyL62RHxp9hbNg/edit?usp=sharing
significance: frames
credit: @703753927488831593 @290820916051705868
chiori frames
attack (ruinguard)
Hitmarks,N1,17,17,17,video by clevernt: https://youtu.be/T_qhsR5X8dw
N2,16,16,16,for skill hitmark/a1/cd: https://youtu.be/yQqwL9vAmLQ
N3-1,24,23,24
N3-2,32,31,32
N4,38,35,37
CA,26,25,25,2 h...
Hitmarks,N1,17,17,17,video by clevernt: https://youtu.be/T_qhsR5X8dw
N2,16,16,16,for skill hitmark/a1/cd: https://youtu.be/yQqwL9vAmLQ
N3-1,24,23,24
N3-2,32,31,32
N4,38,35,37
CA,26,25,25,2 h...
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gauge (skill)
ICD
particles
snapshot
gauge (skill)
ICD
particles
snapshot
🐟Sat, May 18, 2024 at 03:45 PM
Finding: Chiori generates 1-2 particles on Tamoto attacks, with a minimum of ~3s between spawns - ~1.2 particles per hit per 200 trials.
Attack interval is ~3.6 seconds as listed in skill description
If Chiori is on field, the particles will spawn on her location
However, if Chiori is not on-field the particles will in some cases spawn at different locations (Where Chiori was on-field last?)
Kinu dolls do not spawn particles
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/NIVBxtknTN0
Particle counting - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRrnOSB6Z-1SJE1YlW-waktTEH1gYxPx008ueZTXWLumW32YHWX78NFYCGVg3W4Sr08m8qkMvWJpWgf/pubhtml
Significance: Energy stuff1
Attack interval is ~3.6 seconds as listed in skill description
If Chiori is on field, the particles will spawn on her location
However, if Chiori is not on-field the particles will in some cases spawn at different locations (Where Chiori was on-field last?)
Kinu dolls do not spawn particles
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/NIVBxtknTN0
Particle counting - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRrnOSB6Z-1SJE1YlW-waktTEH1gYxPx008ueZTXWLumW32YHWX78NFYCGVg3W4Sr08m8qkMvWJpWgf/pubhtml
Significance: Energy stuff
1Finding: Chiori Gauges
Burst 2GU (no observable ICD)
Kinu, Tamoto, Skill Upward Sweep and Tamoto Co-ordinated attack (A1) are all 1U
The 1U portions appear to all share ICD, accounting for the global crystallize ICD, this is a unique ICD, does not appear to have a hit limit that can be hit but is around ~2s (wiki says 1.9s).
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/XRu_BzO0BVI
(relevant timestamps)
00:02 - Skill 1 GU, triggering all 4 different geo application methods, 2nd crystallize happens at ~00:05s ~2s after the first
Various timing tests until ~00:30, shows tamotos doing 1 GU as well
00:34 - co-ordinated attack 1GU, shared ICD with Tamotos, 2nd crystallize ~2s later at 00:36
00:52 - Kinu dolls shared ICD with sweep and Tamoto
00:58 - Burst and Kinu GU
Significance: Gauges1
Burst 2GU (no observable ICD)
Kinu, Tamoto, Skill Upward Sweep and Tamoto Co-ordinated attack (A1) are all 1U
The 1U portions appear to all share ICD, accounting for the global crystallize ICD, this is a unique ICD, does not appear to have a hit limit that can be hit but is around ~2s (wiki says 1.9s).
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/XRu_BzO0BVI
(relevant timestamps)
00:02 - Skill 1 GU, triggering all 4 different geo application methods, 2nd crystallize happens at ~00:05s ~2s after the first
Various timing tests until ~00:30, shows tamotos doing 1 GU as well
00:34 - co-ordinated attack 1GU, shared ICD with Tamotos, 2nd crystallize ~2s later at 00:36
00:52 - Kinu dolls shared ICD with sweep and Tamoto
00:58 - Burst and Kinu GU
Significance: Gauges
1Finding: Chiori does not snapshot
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Rwun90wuaWY
Significance: Snapshotting1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Rwun90wuaWY
Significance: Snapshotting
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nickjrFri, August 30, 2024 at 06:38 PM
don't think that's right, I can't get chiori to perform a plunging attack if her upward movement is blocked, unlike the other three who can do so (alhaitham, kazuha, xiao)
🐟Fri, August 30, 2024 at 06:43 PM
I... don't think that interaction changes that, given that it's the dash height, but could potentially be an appendix 
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1nickjrSun, September 1, 2024 at 06:35 PM
I'm not really sure what this means alhaitham, kazuha, and xiao all seem to ignore the normal height requirement needed for a plunging attack, but chiori is apparently still subject to the normal height requirement
alhaitham, kazuha, and xiao all seem to ignore the normal height requirement needed for a plunging attack, but chiori is apparently still subject to the normal height requirement🐟Sun, September 1, 2024 at 06:36 PM
Specifically, this means regardless of where you aim her skill under normal circumstances she is still able to perform a plunge, so an appendix to the finding could be "She is however still subject to height limits meaning she may not be able to perform the plunge in confined spaces"
Though any further discussion should go in #763610791839924224
Though any further discussion should go in #763610791839924224
sharaths21312Sun, December 22, 2024 at 04:38 PM
do you want to upload this to YT so that it can be included the tcl page
nickjrSun, December 22, 2024 at 09:05 PM
oh! yes, I will, in a bit
Finding: Chiori is still subject to the plunge height requirement after using hold skill
Evidence: https://youtu.be/86e4O2EOwwA
Significance:
Appendix to the "Chiori can perform a plunge attack regardless of the dash height when using her hE" finding. Chiori's ability to plunge when using hE into the ground comes from her upward movement at the end; if this movement is blocked, she will perform an NA instead. This is in contrast to Xiao, Kazuha, and notably Alhaitham (all 3 are shown in the video), who are all able to ignore the plunge height requirement entirely.1
Evidence: https://youtu.be/86e4O2EOwwA
Significance:
Appendix to the "Chiori can perform a plunge attack regardless of the dash height when using her hE" finding. Chiori's ability to plunge when using hE into the ground comes from her upward movement at the end; if this movement is blocked, she will perform an NA instead. This is in contrast to Xiao, Kazuha, and notably Alhaitham (all 3 are shown in the video), who are all able to ignore the plunge height requirement entirely.
Chiori does not ignore the plunge height requirement
Chiori's ability to plunge right after using hE comes from her upward movement at the end of her hE. If this upward movement is blocked, she can't plunge after hE. This is not the case for the always-plunge-after-skill characters who came before her: Xiao, Kazuha, and Alhaitham, who can all ignore the plunge height requirement entirely, as far a...
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