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collei-c6-is-not-skill-or-burst-dmg
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TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:02 PM
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xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:21 PM
Finding: Collei's C6 DMG is not Elemental Skill DMG
Evidence: https://youtu.be/zQmiOFMri1A
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 626.99 (if this was affected by the 20% skill dmg the number would have been higher)
Significance: Since Collei C6 is neither Burst nor Skill DMG, it will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/zQmiOFMri1A
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 626.99 (if this was affected by the 20% skill dmg the number would have been higher)
Significance: Since Collei C6 is neither Burst nor Skill DMG, it will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc.
Collei C6 is not considered Skill DMG
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ...
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ...

TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:21 PM
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caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 07:50 PM
"Since Collei C6 is neither Burst nor Skill DMG, it will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc."
i think you should also provide evidences for the listed examples? the finding itself doesn't prove that it is also not a burst dmg.
i think you should also provide evidences for the listed examples? the finding itself doesn't prove that it is also not a burst dmg.

TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:50 PM
Ticket re-opened by @xochiyoh

xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:51 PM
yea i would need someone else's video for that too tho 


caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 07:51 PM
or simply remove the statement out of the range

xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:52 PM
yeah but tbh i feel like a big part of the significance is that stringless doesnt work on it
or noblesse

caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 07:52 PM
then you need to test burst% yeah

xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:53 PM

i'll ask if that friend can test it too

plumetraSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:53 PM
I can test it in a bit

xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:56 PM
oh thanks 


kolibri._.Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:34 PM
this ticket does not need to be exhaustive, see https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/pyro/klee#klee-c4-damage

plumetraSun, February 11, 2024 at 08:36 PM
skill non-crit hit:
c6 non-crit hit:
189% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% )
= 192.02c6 non-crit hit:
200% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% )
= 203.19might as well

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kolibri._.: this ticket does not need to be exhaustive, see https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/characters/pyro/klee#klee-c4-damage
caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:40 PM
but in this case hoyo can just act troll since the name collin-anbar is used in burst description.
klee c4 is related to burst swapping out, so if it is not burst, it can't be sth else

kolibri._.Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:41 PM
i guess that makes sense

caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:42 PM
discord video will be expired someday, so it should be youtube or sth right


nzpiefaceMon, February 12, 2024 at 01:26 AM
rip

xochiyohMon, February 12, 2024 at 02:40 AM
oh i wasn't getting notifications from here 

ok
thanks everyone 

Finding: Collei's C6 DMG is not considered Skill or Burst DMG
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/zQmiOFMri1A
Skill Hits 1 & 2 - non-crit:
257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit:
200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 626.99
https://youtu.be/tRonOm8xUhY
Skill - non-crit:
189% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 192.02
C6 - non-crit:
200% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 203.19
These calcs assume Skill/Burst DMG% does not apply to C6, and they match the in-game numbers.
Significance: Collei C6 will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/zQmiOFMri1A
Skill Hits 1 & 2 - non-crit:
257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit:
200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 626.99
https://youtu.be/tRonOm8xUhY
Skill - non-crit:
189% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 192.02
C6 - non-crit:
200% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 203.19
These calcs assume Skill/Burst DMG% does not apply to C6, and they match the in-game numbers.
Significance: Collei C6 will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc.
Collei C6 is not considered Skill DMG
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ...
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ...

TiBotMon, February 12, 2024 at 02:47 AM
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Collei C6 is not Skill or Burst DMG
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