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collei-c6-is-not-skill-or-burst-dmg
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TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:02 PM
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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

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xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:21 PM
Finding: Collei's C6 DMG is not Elemental Skill DMG

Evidence: https://youtu.be/zQmiOFMri1A
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 626.99 (if this was affected by the 20% skill dmg the number would have been higher)

Significance: Since Collei C6 is neither Burst nor Skill DMG, it will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc.
Collei C6 is not considered Skill DMG
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ...
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TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:21 PM
Ticket closed by @xochiyoh. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.
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caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 07:50 PM
"Since Collei C6 is neither Burst nor Skill DMG, it will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc."
i think you should also provide evidences for the listed examples? the finding itself doesn't prove that it is also not a burst dmg.
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TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:50 PM
Ticket re-opened by @xochiyoh
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xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:51 PM
yea i would need someone else's video for that too tho :HaiOmg:
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caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 07:51 PM
or simply remove the statement out of the range
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xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:52 PM
yeah but tbh i feel like a big part of the significance is that stringless doesnt work on it
or noblesse
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caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 07:52 PM
then you need to test burst% yeah
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xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:53 PM
:idontfeelsogood:
i'll ask if that friend can test it too
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plumetraSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:53 PM
I can test it in a bit
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xochiyohSun, February 11, 2024 at 07:56 PM
oh thanks :widepeepohappy:
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plumetraSun, February 11, 2024 at 08:36 PM
skill non-crit hit: 189% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 192.02
c6 non-crit hit: 200% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 203.19
might as well
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caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:40 PM
but in this case hoyo can just act troll since the name collin-anbar is used in burst description.
klee c4 is related to burst swapping out, so if it is not burst, it can't be sth else
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kolibri._.Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:41 PM
i guess that makes sense
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caxia5Sun, February 11, 2024 at 08:42 PM
discord video will be expired someday, so it should be youtube or sth right
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plumetraSun, February 11, 2024 at 08:42 PM
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nzpiefaceMon, February 12, 2024 at 01:26 AM
rip
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xochiyohMon, February 12, 2024 at 02:40 AM
oh i wasn't getting notifications from here :HaiOmg:
ok
thanks everyone :haiheart:
Finding: Collei's C6 DMG is not considered Skill or Burst DMG

Evidence:
https://youtu.be/zQmiOFMri1A
Skill Hits 1 & 2 - non-crit:
257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit:
200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 626.99

https://youtu.be/tRonOm8xUhY
Skill - non-crit:
189% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 192.02
C6 - non-crit:
200% * Total ATK 235.73 * Enemy DEF Multiplier 47.9% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES 10% ) = 203.19

These calcs assume Skill/Burst DMG% does not apply to C6, and they match the in-game numbers.

Significance: Collei C6 will not benefit from anything like Golden Troupe, Noblesse 2pc, Stringless, etc.
Collei C6 is not considered Skill DMG
Based on Genshin Optimizer:
Skill Hit 1 & 2 - non-crit: 257.0% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 20% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ) = 536.31
C6 - crit: 200% * Total ATK 326.83 * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 80.3% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50.7% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Dendro DMG RES -10% / 2 ...
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TiBotMon, February 12, 2024 at 02:47 AM
Ticket closed by @xochiyoh. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.
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