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TiBotWed, March 1, 2023 at 03:01 AM
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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

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ReensWed, March 1, 2023 at 03:02 AM
Dehya Basic Mechanics Ticket
Put all mechanics findings for Dehya here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.

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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:
Finding:

Evidence:

Significance:


Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics
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rarepossumWed, March 1, 2023 at 03:03 AM
Alhaitham Basic Mechanics Ticket
ICANT7
KEKpat2
Finding: Dehyas E is not ping affected

Evidence:
(I realised later my ping isn't visible. Its 600 here) Dehya's E appears immedaitely after hitting the slime, but the damage numebrs take a lot longer to appear indicating it is not ping affected
https://youtu.be/_Oye5hfSSbo

Signficnace:
More reliable E procs
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TFR | Beidou guide soon:tm:Wed, March 1, 2023 at 03:51 AM
Finding: N3 does not knock back like in the trailer

Evidence: https://youtu.be/KH9XpY2Mgyg

Significance: Her normal attack string weaves together properly unlike what was advertised
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nzpiefaceWed, March 1, 2023 at 04:02 AM
Can someone test if she can hit enemies within Venti Burst with her E and Q?
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bobosawrWed, March 1, 2023 at 04:06 AM
Finding: When Dehya jumps during her burst, it prematurely ends it.

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvxFe_z3ME0

Significance: Don't jump during burst.
dehya jumps out of burst
dehya's jump during burst ends it prematurely
ohno36
Trolldespair18
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itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushieWed, March 1, 2023 at 04:30 AM
Finding: Dehya coordinated attack is centered on enemy hitboxes and has a small aoe

evidence: https://youtu.be/JRinlGhlNLY
https://youtu.be/bR6YmlOGeqs

Significance: Tall enemies prevent burgeon proc from Dehya Coordinated attack
KQM TCL - Dehya Basic Mechanics Evidence - Burgeon proc mob height
Genshin Impact 2023 02 28 20 39 54 11 DVR
KQM TCL Evidence - Dehya burgeon
Genshin Impact 2023 02 28 20 28 36 07 DVR
ohno22
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Reply to Avatar nzpieface: Can someone test if she can hit enemies within Venti Burst with her E and Q?
itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushieWed, March 1, 2023 at 04:34 AM
yesnt

Finding: Dehya burst does not reach the center of Venti burst

evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2VKcMqpJi0
https://youtu.be/ybVKx4blYUg

Significance: Dehya works poorly with Venti burst
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anju06Wed, March 1, 2023 at 05:44 AM
dude it's in her talent description please read
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DarkDragonWed, March 1, 2023 at 07:08 AM
Finding: Dehya burst hits shatter
Significance: Her burst attacks are heavy attacks and she will probably not be working well as a burst dps against frozen enemies for abusing melt :Gladge:
Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/L44ekYR
ohno11
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emmausWed, March 1, 2023 at 09:17 AM
Finding: Dehya E cast, recast and tick are all 1GU
Significance: Her skill gauges
Evidence: https://youtu.be/J4yvtlcDTjI
https://youtu.be/6DTEdWikzPE
Finding: Dehya only generates skill particles on E tick, not on cast/recast. Each tick will generate 1 pyro energy particle
Significance: Energy Particle generation
Evidence: https://youtu.be/MoDJiGA8oEc
Finding: Dehya burst hits are 1GU
Significance: Burst Elemental Gauges
Evidence: https://youtu.be/QHtyBE5oQa8
can someone confirms if burst icd is 3 hits no 2.5s? I'm seeing such in the video above
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🐟Wed, March 1, 2023 at 11:41 AM
Finding: on-character shields mitigate Fiery Sanctum bleed damage

Evidence:
Noelle A1: https://youtu.be/VKjwjQ1qrLo @698441970812584017
The Bell: https://youtu.be/1Uf5PkXtkBw @180452497947754506

Significance: The Bell finally good? Fiery Sanctum is applied as Damage to Dehya and not hp loss - consequently it is blocked by shields that stay on that character off-field etc.
LETSGOOOOO4
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sqlwilWed, March 1, 2023 at 01:36 PM
Finding: Dehya Burst doesn't snapshot
Significance: Burst mechanics
Evidence: https://youtu.be/xUtfQ5wx3bM
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cenpiWed, March 1, 2023 at 11:53 PM
Finding: Teleporting during Dehya's burst doesn't cancel it
Significance: Teleport ok but don't jump
Evidence: https://youtu.be/xv-vMJ8xUcg
pepelaugh27
KEKpat6
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freenekThu, March 2, 2023 at 09:51 PM
Finding: Dehya's Fiery Sanctum mitigates True DMG.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/djcXSsQeDdA
Significance: Better understanding how Fiery Sanctum mitigation works.
Dehya's true dmg mitigation
Dehya's Fiery Sanctum does mitigate True DMG.
Finding: Dehya's Fiery Sanctum coordinated attacks snapshots on placement (Indomitable Flame). E2 (Ranging Flame) also re-snapshots.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/axx8aOrtgV8
Significance: Better understanding on how Dehya's elemental skill works, potential consideration for creating optimal rotations.
Dehya E and E2 snapshots
Dehya's Fiery Sanctum coordinated attacks snapshots on placement (Indomitable Flame). E2 (Ranging Flame) also re-snapshots.
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PrayKeqing1
if there is anything to be checked/recorded feel free to let me know, I will try to find some spare time in upcoming days
PrayKeqing1
Finding: Dehya's Fiery Sanctum damage mitigation does not mitigate corrosion.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/i3B7aa7rfWQ
Significance: Less Dehya's dying to just corrosion dmg mitigation.
Dehya's E does not mitigate corrosion
Dehya's Fiery Sanctum damage mitigation does not mitigate corrosion.
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asaki_tmkThu, March 2, 2023 at 11:15 PM
Finding: Dehya's Burst attacks do not latch onto the overground hitbox of Azhdaha. (Apparently it’s trying to hit the underground one instead).

Evidence: https://youtu.be/bnG1guysr8g (credits to Freenek#7777)

Significance: may represent larger issue with Dehya autotargetting vs. enemies with multiple or simultaneous hitbox locations.
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freenekFri, March 3, 2023 at 12:19 AM
Finding: Dehya's Fiery Sanctum is weightless, hence doesn't work on pressure plates
Evidence: https://youtu.be/K9ev3i_T9tY
Significance: One more reason not to pick her up for overworld exploration.
Dehya's Fiery Sanctum is weightless
For Keqing Mains TCL.
It cannot be used on pressure plates in overworld exploration.
Gladge7
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zenjuryFri, March 3, 2023 at 09:33 AM
Finding: Dehya's burst Fist phase can be skipped into Drive, by pushing Dash-Jump.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Oj7_t-bzW_s
Significance: Early burst cancel with some AoE damage.
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hope no one find any use of this
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freenekSat, March 4, 2023 at 08:44 AM
Finding: Dehya's Q Fiery Sanctum created by the end of burst is re-snapshot
Evidence: https://youtu.be/jV1qf4ViTK8
Significance: Might be taken into consideration in calcs/rotations.
mintwao1
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itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushieSun, March 5, 2023 at 03:49 AM
Finding: Dehya's Redmane damage is determined "dynamically"
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/GKsD_FcX56w
https://youtu.be/f_iLHg18vXg
https://youtu.be/eQKRypJRPjc
Significance: Basic mechanics?
326 aligns with (((2769/0.56) - 2769) - 3((1978/0.56) - 1978)/10) + ((1978/0.56) - 1978))/10
341 aligns with (((2769/0.56) - 2769) - 2((1978/0.56) - 1978)/10) + ((1978/0.56) - 1978))/10
(credit @123956634077757446 for calc confirmation)
Dehya Redmane - expected dmg 341 variant
Genshin Impact 2023 03 04 17 17 50 14 DVR
Dehya Redmane - expected dmg 326
Genshin Impact 2023 03 04 17 09 18 11 DVR
Dehya Redmane - shield interaction, not expected 341
Genshin Impact 2023 03 04 19 18 42 45 DVR
(sorry for ping)
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freenekSun, March 5, 2023 at 08:33 AM
Finding: Dehya's Q early Incineration Drive tech places the Fiery Sanctum before the kick dmg instance happens, this potentially leads to doing coordinated dmg with Incineration Drive dmg itself, unlike in regular case. This can be also done just after last punch done in her burst.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/jV1qf4ViTK8 & https://youtu.be/rB88TgYNhZ8
Significance: Better understanding of early final burst hit tech. Might be taken into consideration in calcs/rotations.
Dehya's Q Fiery Sanctum created by the end of burst is re-snapshot
For Keqing Mains TCL.
Dehya Q early Incineration Drive tech utilization after last punch
For Keqing Mains TCL.
Player can choose to place Fiery Sanctum before her burst ends and Incineration Drive kicks in.
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rinastryderSun, March 5, 2023 at 10:00 AM
Finding: Dehya Burst punch and kick have different ICD, allowing to double vape
Evidence:: https://youtu.be/ELsAhFUXygI
*Significance: Shorter field time allows for different comps
Finding: Dehya C2 will trigger from her own redmane damage.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/azaDrtSpAz4 and https://youtu.be/b_pD15f6Mus
*Significance: Only 1 hit taken can keep uptime of C2's damage increase
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bb63Thu, March 9, 2023 at 11:20 AM
Finding: Follow-up Attacks from Dehya’s E is capable of proccing sacrificial effect
Significance: increases Dehya Elemental skill uptime and synergizes with emblem set for on-field Dehya comps. Also reduces need for Sac Greatsword refines for consistent Sac effect use.
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Reply to Avatar bb63: Evidence: https://youtu.be/lykE1ryeA6Q
pkach | ping 4 noille questionsThu, March 16, 2023 at 07:37 PM
Please upload to Youtube or Imgur, we can't use Discord evidence because videos get deleted after a few months
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Reply to Avatar pkach | ping 4 noille questions: Please upload to Youtube or Imgur, we can't use Discord evidence because videos get deleted after a few months
bb63Sat, March 18, 2023 at 09:08 PM
Fixed.
Gladge1
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Shampoo | burger enthusiastMon, July 31, 2023 at 01:51 PM
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Reply to Avatar Shampoo | burger enthusiast: @itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushie would you mind uploading these to youtube https://discord.com/channels/763583452762734592/1080323820965085215/1080346366842253424 and https://discord.com/channels/763583452762734592/1080323820965085215/1080347274103754903 :hmmge: I can do it if there's issues
itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushieMon, July 31, 2023 at 05:16 PM
Ye remind me later
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Shampoo | burger enthusiastMon, July 31, 2023 at 05:16 PM
alright :kleeok:
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Reply to Avatar itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushie: Ye remind me later
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, August 1, 2023 at 08:11 AM
:mintwao:
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Reply to Avatar itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushie: Finding: Dehya coordinated attack is centered on enemy hitboxes and has a small aoe
itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushieTue, August 1, 2023 at 09:31 PM
@Shampoo | burger enthusiast you want me to redo this clip for youtube? because this one already has a youtube version that suffices
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Reply to Avatar itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushie: @Shampoo | burger enthusiast you want me to redo this clip for youtube? because this one already has a youtube version that suffices
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, August 1, 2023 at 09:38 PM
yea I suppose its sufficient :thinkies:
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Reply to Avatar Shampoo | burger enthusiast: yea I suppose its sufficient :thinkies:
itsjaeYOU | citlalis plushieTue, August 1, 2023 at 09:40 PM
eh i did it anyways. k done 👍
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Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, August 1, 2023 at 09:46 PM
thank you! :mintwao:
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