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dehya-skill-not-working-bug

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TiBotWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:33 AM

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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion

effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:33 AM

@itsjaeYOU | citlalis color

TiBotWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:33 AM

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effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:34 AM

/rename to rename if it doesn't work ping pong

🐟Wed, July 12, 2023 at 08:37 AM

This is certainly a ticket of all time

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:38 AM

https://youtu.be/8oddUOTSh70
https://youtu.be/p3b-kE9tFy8

Genshin Impact 2023 07 11 22 18 56 29 DVR

Dehya E did not apply Gold form (infinite IR). Ayaka was swapped and on field for 10 frames before getting knocked.

Dehya E bug (2nd instance)

Genshin Impact 2023 07 31 01 38 50 08 DVR

Theory/Finding/Bug: Dehya Gold-Forged Form (A1) sometimes does not work

Evidence: In this clip:

1. Dehya uses E and swaps (40.34)
2. Ayaka takes the field (40.35)
3. Ayaka is hit and staggered (40.45)
4. Ayaka registers HP damage (40.50)

Dehya A1 passive

... within 9s after Dehya unleashes Molten Inferno: Indomitable Flame, she will grant all party members the Gold-Forged Form state. ...

suggests that the Gold-Forged Form (infinite IR) state is party wide upon activation of E but this shows an incidence where this does not happen.

Furthermore, based on these two control tests

https://youtu.be/LgQxiBIG998
https://youtu.be/rGIs5VGCnUE
we can observe that it should not be an issue of time after swap

Significance: there is an unexplained bug with Dehya E IR where sometimes it does not work

@effab1e uh hows it look?

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: @effab1e uh hows it look?

effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:59 AM

pogO

you can close for review whenever you feel like it has everything

also

TiBotWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:01 AM

This ticket has been renamed to dehya-skill-not-working-bug by @effab1e

effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:01 AM

what a feeling it must be to be a dehya main

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🐟Wed, July 12, 2023 at 09:02 AM

It's going to need a way to consistently reproduce listed at least I think

effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:02 AM

yea could be a connection thing

🐟Wed, July 12, 2023 at 09:02 AM

Also is it the skill not working or just A1?

yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:12 AM

That we don't know
Can be skill, can be A1, can be both

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:14 AM

Hello Traweler! Your issue of Dehya's Elemental Skill not applying her Interruption Resistance is a skill issue  ~ Please try refreshing the party and removing Dehya from the party ｡ﾟ+.ღ(ゝ◡ ღ). ! If this issue persists, we kindly ask you to not have this issue ☆～（ゝ。∂）. May the Seven be with you~

🐟Wed, July 12, 2023 at 09:15 AM

Hmm?

A1 is the interruption resistance

skill is damage

well, a1 is even more I suppose

yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:19 AM

Skill also gives some Interruption Res no?

🐟Wed, July 12, 2023 at 09:20 AM

yes, but isn't the a1 state "infinite"?

So getting knocked back at all is A1

🐟: yes, but isn't the a1 state "infinite"?

yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:27 AM

Yes
But A1 explicitly states you need to be within the Skill radius and then it will further increase the character's RTI

So like I presume skill needs to work in order for A1 to work

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:59 AM

i guess i should rename it to "sometimes dehya a1 doesn't work"

so i've been trying to recreate the bug with no success but hopefully this might be a clue

this ive always known but based on this clip

mark1 - 12.15 dehya e registers input
mark2 - 12.33 dehya e is placed
mark3 - 12.37 dehya is staggered

🐟Wed, July 12, 2023 at 10:16 AM

It sorta looks like a swap time thing, as if you get hit the instant you swap it hasn't applied yet

🐟: It sorta looks like a swap time thing, as if you get hit the instant you swap it hasn't applied yet

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM

nah this cant be the reason. you can check the control tests i did

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color:

Hello Traweler! Your issue of Dehya's Elemental Skill not applying her Interruption Resistance is a skill issue  ~ Please try refreshing the party and removing Dehya from the party ｡ﾟ+.ღ(ゝ◡ ღ). ! If this issue persists, we kindly ask you to not have this issue ☆～（ゝ。∂）. May the Seven be with you~

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM

wait

>we kindly ask you to not have this issue

nzpieface: wait

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM

it's from #│tc-lounge and #╭・starboard lol

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:18 AM

oh

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color:

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:19 AM

i think you got attacked here before E was placed

overloaded appears before the big circle of e appears

nzpieface: i think you got attacked here before E was placed

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:20 AM

ye. that's normal

i always knew about this interaction. imo working as intended

just using it as a baseline for the original issue

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:20 AM

ah

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:21 AM

which is really interesting though

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:21 AM

yeah its not a swap time issue, youre swapped in for long enough lol

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:21 AM

dehya E circle appears 2 frames after e registers placement

but you can still get staggered within 6 frames of e register placement

but yeah. not really sure what would have caused the original problem

also lul dehya e takes 18 frames to place and almost 30 frames to apply gold forged

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:24 AM

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:24 AM

kinda terrible when you think about it that way

big sad. anyways ill try more tests tomorrow to try replicate. sleep for now

nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:25 AM

i thought it mightve been stored momentum or smth but it doesnt seem like it

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color:

yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 11:10 AM

Someone with higher ping test this if there's a frame diff

If there is, Dehya A1 is affected by ping

LeahWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:07 PM

I don't have dehya

But I can rob a friend's account so what do you want me to do

yukiyafuyu: Someone with higher ping test this if there's a frame diff

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorThu, July 13, 2023 at 02:43 AM

ive tested it on my 120ping asia alt and there seems to be a 1-2 frame discrepancy/variance in marks compared to my NA main

still could not recreate the stagger issue but there's that

idk if that means anything though since ive not done much frame counting before

actually. i just realized that in my bug clip i did a double E and i havent been testing with that. ill retry more attempts with double

OKAY I HAVE A WORKING THEORY

based on my NA and Asia accounts i am noticing a major discrepancy:
on my NA account (70 ping) i can double E way faster than i can on my Asia account

this plus the fact that we know dehya E's IR is not immediate upon placement (takes about 30frames or some shit) i believe i may have just somehow jank pinged my way into swapping into ayaka before the goldforged form was applied

thus i think what i need is someone with really low ping to test this (not someone with high ping)

i think?

maybe this is something that can be commissioned to theory hunt? just ask people with varying pings to press (or double press) dehya e and swap to someone and see if thye get staggered

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: thus i think what i need is someone with really low ping to test this (not someone with high ping)

nzpiefaceThu, July 13, 2023 at 07:40 AM

ask someone living in tokyo

ask someone living in tokyo

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorThu, July 13, 2023 at 08:32 AM

find me someone

nzpiefaceThu, July 13, 2023 at 08:33 AM

cara | hag rightsThu, July 13, 2023 at 08:56 AM

how low is really low

im at around 37ms

cara | hag rights: how low is really low

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorThu, July 13, 2023 at 09:54 AM

Try this for me: double e and swap to another char and record.

On my NA 70 ping I can swap w 18.9 cd E

On my 120 Asia ping I swap w 17.5 cd E

Is a gigantic discrepancy

staryy_Thu, July 13, 2023 at 09:58 AM

i don't think 50 ping is that significant

cara | hag rightsThu, July 13, 2023 at 10:14 AM

at 60fps 36-38ms ping i swap near exactly as the timer reaches 19.0s

im gonna find a better enemy and see if i can recreate ur bug

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: idk if that means anything though since ive not done much frame counting before

cara | hag rightsThu, July 13, 2023 at 10:43 AM

ime most things have a 1-2 frame discrepancy, idt it should be significant

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: Try this for me: double e and swap to another char and record.

cara | hag rightsThu, July 13, 2023 at 11:00 AM

an assortment of EE swaps, both with and without being attacked
i can swap as early as 19.1s, but bc my own input speed its usually 18.9-19.0s

i cant recreate ur bug but that could be bc tight timings
~~id try in the same domain but shes lvl20 so..~~

cara | hag rights: an assortment of EE swaps, both with and without being attacked

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorThu, July 13, 2023 at 07:16 PM

Damn. Well there goes that idea. Thanks for testing

cara | hag rightsThu, July 13, 2023 at 07:38 PM

feel free to ping if theres anything else u want me to check

:suskaygeagreegebusiness:

nzpiefaceFri, July 14, 2023 at 03:05 AM

@itsjaeYOU | citlalis color does asia also get the bug

nzpieface: @itsjaeYOU | citlalis color does asia also get the bug

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorFri, July 14, 2023 at 03:11 AM

havent been able to replicate the bug so idk

nzpiefaceFri, July 14, 2023 at 03:15 AM

inb4 one time client issue

TiBotFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:30 AM

This channel hasn't been active in the past week!

is_this_maddieFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:37 AM

hehe

@itsjaeYOU | citlalis color

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM

is_this_maddie: @itsjaeYOU | citlalis color

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM

I cant recreate bug. What do

is_this_maddieFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM

bug is doomed

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM

is_this_maddieFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:41 AM

maybe try harder idk

or ask new people

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:42 AM

I need cyn and sew

yukiyafuyuFri, July 21, 2023 at 08:10 AM

@sew Get over here
Can't get Cyn, he abandoned us

:worrybrothers:

sewFri, July 21, 2023 at 09:15 AM

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: I cant recreate bug. What do

nzpiefaceSun, July 23, 2023 at 04:27 PM

inb4 random bitflip bug

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:56 AM

@is_this_maddie what happens if i give up on replicating bug

is_this_maddieMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:57 AM

I'll archive this

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:57 AM

justice for dehya

is_this_maddieMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:58 AM

actually you have evidence

is_this_maddie: actually you have evidence

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 24, 2023 at 03:43 AM

wdym. it's the first video in the ticket

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: @is_this_maddie what happens if i give up on replicating bug

cara | hag rightsThu, July 27, 2023 at 12:39 AM

~~i forgor what exactly was going on here~~
if u give me some instructions i can try replicating the bug again
ill be stuck commuting for some hours tomorrow

cara | hag rights: ~~i forgor what exactly was going on here~~

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorThu, July 27, 2023 at 01:12 AM

Double press dehya e > swap > get hit > ? > get staggered

cara | hag rightsThu, July 27, 2023 at 06:44 PM

spent like 90min total doing dehya ee -> swap -> get hit and i didnt manage to replicate this a single time

is_this_maddieFri, July 28, 2023 at 01:31 AM

cara | hag rights: spent like 90min total doing dehya ee -> swap -> get hit and i didnt manage to replicate this a single time

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorFri, July 28, 2023 at 03:34 AM

i think it's just a 1 in a million bug

i've spent like 6-8 hours over the past week trying to replicate it to no success

jasFri, July 28, 2023 at 03:43 AM

a solar flare flipped a bit

cara | hag rights: spent like 90min total doing dehya ee -> swap -> get hit and i didnt manage to replicate this a single time

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:39 AM

is_this_maddie:

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM

bug

BUG

I GOT IT

SEE

IM NOT CRAZY

is_this_maddieMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM

nzpieface: inb4 random bitflip bug

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM

fuck you im not crazy

oh wait am i allowed to swear in a ticket

is_this_maddieMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM

feel free

is_this_maddie: feel free

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:41 AM

so uh. is 1 replicated instance enough?

what now

cara | hag rightsMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:41 AM

is_this_maddieMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:41 AM

yea this can be compiled and closed now

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:42 AM

ill upload it to youtube . one sec

https://youtu.be/p3b-kE9tFy8

Genshin Impact 2023 07 31 01 38 50 08 DVR

Genshin Impact 2023 07 31 01 38 50 08 DVR

i copy pasta the url too fast and the embed is broken

i tried searching it and i dont know the command to close the ticket

Shampoo | burger enthusiastMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:58 AM

just /close

itsjaeYOU | citlalis color: https://youtu.be/p3b-kE9tFy8

Shampoo | burger enthusiastMon, July 31, 2023 at 09:00 AM

you can add this link too into your writeup

Shampoo | burger enthusiast: you can add this link too into your writeup

itsjaeYOU | citlalis colorMon, July 31, 2023 at 09:18 AM

:suskaygeagreegebusiness:

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effab1eMon, July 31, 2023 at 09:38 AM

kekw

everytime i make a ticket

for someone

🐒

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