KQM | Genshin Impact
dehya-skill-not-working-bug
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effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:33 AM
@itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbard
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effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:34 AM
/rename to rename if it doesn't work ping pong
πWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:37 AM
This is certainly a ticket of all time
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:38 AM
https://youtu.be/8oddUOTSh70
https://youtu.be/p3b-kE9tFy8
https://youtu.be/p3b-kE9tFy8
Dehya E Bug
Genshin Impact 2023 07 11 22 18 56 29 DVR
Dehya E did not apply Gold form (infinite IR). Ayaka was swapped and on field for 10 frames before getting knocked.
Dehya E did not apply Gold form (infinite IR). Ayaka was swapped and on field for 10 frames before getting knocked.
Theory/Finding/Bug: Dehya Gold-Forged Form (A1) sometimes does not work
Evidence: In this clip:
Evidence: In this clip:
1. Dehya uses E and swaps (40.34)
2. Ayaka takes the field (40.35)
3. Ayaka is hit and staggered (40.45)
4. Ayaka registers HP damage (40.50)
Dehya A1 passive
suggests that the Gold-Forged Form (infinite IR) state is party wide upon activation of E but this shows an incidence where this does not happen.
Furthermore, based on these two control tests
2. Ayaka takes the field (40.35)
3. Ayaka is hit and staggered (40.45)
4. Ayaka registers HP damage (40.50)
Dehya A1 passive
... within 9s after Dehya unleashes Molten Inferno: Indomitable Flame, she will grant all party members the Gold-Forged Form state. ...suggests that the Gold-Forged Form (infinite IR) state is party wide upon activation of E but this shows an incidence where this does not happen.
Furthermore, based on these two control tests
https://youtu.be/LgQxiBIG998
https://youtu.be/rGIs5VGCnUE
we can observe that it should not be an issue of time after swap
Significance: there is an unexplained bug with Dehya E IR where sometimes it does not work
https://youtu.be/rGIs5VGCnUE
we can observe that it should not be an issue of time after swap
Significance: there is an unexplained bug with Dehya E IR where sometimes it does not work
@effab1e uh hows it look?
effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 08:59 AM
pogO
you can close for review whenever you feel like it has everything
also
TiBotWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:01 AM
This ticket has been renamed to
dehya-skill-not-working-bug by @effab1eeffab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:01 AM
what a feeling it must be to be a dehya main
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1πWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:02 AM
It's going to need a way to consistently reproduce listed at least I think
effab1eWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:02 AM
yea could be a connection thing
πWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:02 AM
Also is it the skill not working or just A1?
yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:12 AM
That we don't know
Can be skill, can be A1, can be both
Can be skill, can be A1, can be both
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:14 AM
Hello Traweler! Your issue of Dehya's Elemental Skill not applying her Interruption Resistance is a skill issue ~ Please try refreshing the party and removing Dehya from the party ｑοΎ+.α¦(γβ‘ α¦). ! If this issue persists, we kindly ask you to not have this issue βο½οΌγγβοΌ. May the Seven be with you~πWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:15 AM
Hmm?
A1 is the interruption resistance
skill is damage
well, a1 is even more I suppose
yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:19 AM
Skill also gives some Interruption Res no? 
πWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:20 AM
yes, but isn't the a1 state "infinite"?
So getting knocked back at all is A1
yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:27 AM
Yes
But A1 explicitly states you need to be within the Skill radius and then it will further increase the character's RTI
But A1 explicitly states you need to be within the Skill radius and then it will further increase the character's RTI
So like I presume skill needs to work in order for A1 to work 
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:59 AM
i guess i should rename it to "sometimes dehya a1 doesn't work"
so i've been trying to recreate the bug with no success but hopefully this might be a clue
this ive always known but based on this clip
mark1 - 12.15 dehya e registers input
mark2 - 12.33 dehya e is placed
mark3 - 12.37 dehya is staggered
mark2 - 12.33 dehya e is placed
mark3 - 12.37 dehya is staggered
πWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:16 AM
It sorta looks like a swap time thing, as if you get hit the instant you swap it hasn't applied yet
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM
nah this cant be the reason. you can check the control tests i did
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM
wait
>we kindly ask you to not have this issue
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM
it's from #tc-lounge and #starboard lol
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:18 AM
oh
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:19 AM
i think you got attacked here before E was placed
overloaded appears before the big circle of e appears
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:20 AM
ye. that's normal
i always knew about this interaction. imo working as intended
just using it as a baseline for the original issue
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:20 AM
ah
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:21 AM
which is really interesting though
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:21 AM
yeah its not a swap time issue, youre swapped in for long enough lol
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:21 AM
dehya E circle appears 2 frames after e registers placement
but you can still get staggered within 6 frames of e register placement
but yeah. not really sure what would have caused the original problem
also lul dehya e takes 18 frames to place and almost 30 frames to apply gold forged
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:24 AM
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:24 AM
kinda terrible when you think about it that way
big sad. anyways ill try more tests tomorrow to try replicate. sleep for now
nzpiefaceWed, July 12, 2023 at 10:25 AM
i thought it mightve been stored momentum or smth but it doesnt seem like it
yukiyafuyuWed, July 12, 2023 at 11:10 AM
Someone with higher ping test this if there's a frame diff
If there is, Dehya A1 is affected by ping
LeahWed, July 12, 2023 at 09:07 PM
I don't have dehya 
But I can rob a friend's account so what do you want me to do
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardThu, July 13, 2023 at 02:43 AM
ive tested it on my 120ping asia alt and there seems to be a 1-2 frame discrepancy/variance in marks compared to my NA main
still could not recreate the stagger issue but there's that
idk if that means anything though since ive not done much frame counting before
actually. i just realized that in my bug clip i did a double E and i havent been testing with that. ill retry more attempts with double
OKAY I HAVE A WORKING THEORY
based on my NA and Asia accounts i am noticing a major discrepancy:
on my NA account (70 ping) i can double E way faster than i can on my Asia account
on my NA account (70 ping) i can double E way faster than i can on my Asia account
this plus the fact that we know dehya E's IR is not immediate upon placement (takes about 30frames or some shit) i believe i may have just somehow jank pinged my way into swapping into ayaka before the goldforged form was applied
thus i think what i need is someone with really low ping to test this (not someone with high ping)
i think?
maybe this is something that can be commissioned to theory hunt? just ask people with varying pings to press (or double press) dehya e and swap to someone and see if thye get staggered
nzpiefaceThu, July 13, 2023 at 07:40 AM ask someone living in tokyo
ask someone living in tokyoitsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardThu, July 13, 2023 at 08:32 AM
find me someone
find me someonenzpiefaceThu, July 13, 2023 at 08:33 AM
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 13, 2023 at 08:56 AM
how low is really low
im at around 37ms
im at around 37ms
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardThu, July 13, 2023 at 09:54 AM
Try this for me: double e and swap to another char and record.
On my NA 70 ping I can swap w 18.9 cd E
On my 120 Asia ping I swap w 17.5 cd E
On my NA 70 ping I can swap w 18.9 cd E
On my 120 Asia ping I swap w 17.5 cd E
Is a gigantic discrepancy 
staryy_Thu, July 13, 2023 at 09:58 AM
i don't think 50 ping is that significant 
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 13, 2023 at 10:14 AM
at 60fps 36-38ms ping i swap near exactly as the timer reaches 19.0s
im gonna find a better enemy and see if i can recreate ur bug
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 13, 2023 at 10:43 AM
ime most things have a 1-2 frame discrepancy, idt it should be significant
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 13, 2023 at 11:00 AM
an assortment of EE swaps, both with and without being attacked
i can swap as early as 19.1s, but bc my own input speed its usually 18.9-19.0s
i can swap as early as 19.1s, but bc my own input speed its usually 18.9-19.0s
i cant recreate ur bug but that could be bc tight timings
id try in the same domain but shes lvl20 so..
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardThu, July 13, 2023 at 07:16 PM
Damn. Well there goes that idea. Thanks for testing
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 13, 2023 at 07:38 PM
feel free to ping if theres anything else u want me to check
nzpiefaceFri, July 14, 2023 at 03:05 AM
@itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbard does asia also get the bug
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardFri, July 14, 2023 at 03:11 AM
havent been able to replicate the bug so idk
nzpiefaceFri, July 14, 2023 at 03:15 AM
inb4 one time client issue
TiBotFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:30 AM
This channel hasn't been active in the past week!
This channel hasn't been active in the past week!
is_this_maddieFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:37 AM
hehe
@itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbard
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM
I cant recreate bug. What do
is_this_maddieFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM
bug is doomed
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:40 AM
is_this_maddieFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:41 AM
maybe try harder idk
or ask new people
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardFri, July 21, 2023 at 03:42 AM
I need cyn and sew
yukiyafuyuFri, July 21, 2023 at 08:10 AM
@S.E.W Get over here
Can't get Cyn, he abandoned us
Can't get Cyn, he abandoned us
S.E.WFri, July 21, 2023 at 09:15 AM
nzpiefaceSun, July 23, 2023 at 04:27 PM
inb4 random bitflip bug
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:56 AM
@is_this_maddie what happens if i give up on replicating bug
is_this_maddieMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:57 AM
I'll archive this
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:57 AM
justice for dehya
is_this_maddieMon, July 24, 2023 at 02:58 AM
actually you have evidence 
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 24, 2023 at 03:43 AM
wdym. it's the first video in the ticket
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 27, 2023 at 12:39 AMi forgor what exactly was going on here
if u give me some instructions i can try replicating the bug again
ill be stuck commuting for some hours tomorrow
if u give me some instructions i can try replicating the bug again
ill be stuck commuting for some hours tomorrow
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardThu, July 27, 2023 at 01:12 AM
Double press dehya e > swap > get hit > ? > get staggered
cara | :catbite:Thu, July 27, 2023 at 06:44 PM
spent like 90min total doing dehya ee -> swap -> get hit and i didnt manage to replicate this a single time
is_this_maddieFri, July 28, 2023 at 01:31 AM
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardFri, July 28, 2023 at 03:34 AM i think it's just a 1 in a million bug
i think it's just a 1 in a million bugi've spent like 6-8 hours over the past week trying to replicate it to no success
jas | #1 baloopy haterFri, July 28, 2023 at 03:43 AM
a solar flare flipped a bit
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:39 AM
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM
bug
BUG
I GOT IT
SEE
IM NOT CRAZY
is_this_maddieMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM
fuck you im not crazy
oh wait am i allowed to swear in a ticket
is_this_maddieMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:40 AM
feel free
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:41 AM
so uh. is 1 replicated instance enough?
what now
cara | :catbite:Mon, July 31, 2023 at 08:41 AM
is_this_maddieMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:41 AM
yea this can be compiled and closed now
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:42 AM
ill upload it to youtube . one sec
i copy pasta the url too fast and the embed is broken
i tried searching it and i dont know the command to close the ticket
Shampoo | burger enthusiastMon, July 31, 2023 at 08:58 AM
just /close
Shampoo | burger enthusiastMon, July 31, 2023 at 09:00 AM
you can add this link too into your writeup
itsjaeYOU | arlecchinos scabbardMon, July 31, 2023 at 09:18 AM
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