KQM | Genshin Impact
fischl-a4-not-05s
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TiBotFri, July 1, 2022 at 09:48 AM
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Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, July 1, 2022 at 09:57 AM
Finding: Fishl's A4 cooldown seems to be more than 0.5s or depend on ping.
Evidence: 1) Here Diluc performs N1 (triggers Overload and Fishcl's A4) followed by E (triggers Overload but doesn't trigger A4). Judging from the TCL, Diluc's E1 is 45 frames so the delay between two Overloads has to be more than 0.5s but still Fishl's A4 didn't proc.
https://youtu.be/9iZG10GwwiI
2) Here Diluc performs the same combo but with a slight delay, successfully triggering Fischl's A4. The time delay was under 1s.
https://youtu.be/VQsSJoMF3jg
My ping during the tests is 43ms whereas Terrapin's ping in the tests in the TCL is 28ms. Maybe that's the issue, further testing required.
Significance: Affects Diluc gameplay patterns in Overload comps with Fischl.
Evidence: 1) Here Diluc performs N1 (triggers Overload and Fishcl's A4) followed by E (triggers Overload but doesn't trigger A4). Judging from the TCL, Diluc's E1 is 45 frames so the delay between two Overloads has to be more than 0.5s but still Fishl's A4 didn't proc.
https://youtu.be/9iZG10GwwiI
2) Here Diluc performs the same combo but with a slight delay, successfully triggering Fischl's A4. The time delay was under 1s.
https://youtu.be/VQsSJoMF3jg
My ping during the tests is 43ms whereas Terrapin's ping in the tests in the TCL is 28ms. Maybe that's the issue, further testing required.
Significance: Affects Diluc gameplay patterns in Overload comps with Fischl.
nzpiefaceFri, July 1, 2022 at 09:57 AM
wait but
fischl a4 triggers when you're not even connected to the server
Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, July 1, 2022 at 09:59 AM
Maybe my Fischl is defective.
First my C6 Oz attacks 11 times instead of 12. Now this.
Where is my receipt.
First my C6 Oz attacks 11 times instead of 12. Now this.
Where is my receipt.
TibotFri, July 1, 2022 at 10:04 AM
fps issue? 
Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, July 1, 2022 at 10:07 AM
Yeah apparently my game is on 59.9 fps. 
LeahFri, July 1, 2022 at 12:47 PM
oh my god
itzsomebody | chrisFri, July 1, 2022 at 12:48 PM
hmm diluc N1 applies at 300 and E at 334
so 0.56667 seconds diff
(or 34 frames)
might be possible that CD doesn't start until fischl a4 actually fires
could also be another case of DM not translating well to in-game timings as DM pretty clearly states 0.5s
nzpiefaceFri, July 1, 2022 at 01:08 PM is this why?
is this why?itzsomebody | chrisFri, July 1, 2022 at 01:08 PM
Oz is sensitive to FPS but i didn't actually test by how much 
rarepossumFri, July 1, 2022 at 01:18 PM
If we want to get even tighter I have 59.94 I think
itzsomebody | chrisFri, July 1, 2022 at 01:20 PM
inb4 this turns into tibot caboosing rivatuner again
daibangdenFri, July 1, 2022 at 02:36 PM
Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, July 1, 2022 at 03:42 PM
It was a joke btw, I don't actually know.
3
3But maybe I was spot on. 😅
nzpiefaceFri, July 1, 2022 at 04:38 PM
@Tibot oi
nzpiefaceFri, July 1, 2022 at 05:05 PM
just wanted to inform you before you actually went hunting
Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyThu, July 7, 2022 at 09:36 PM
Can somebody redo my tests to see if it's the case for someone else as well?
TiBotThu, July 14, 2022 at 09:45 PM
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vinsetteFri, July 15, 2022 at 10:37 AM
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Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, July 15, 2022 at 10:38 AM
I guess I'll just close it.
!rm 1 hour
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1Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, July 15, 2022 at 11:42 AM
$close
/close
Dammit 1
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bowtaeSat, August 6, 2022 at 04:06 AM
i was able to replicate the finding at 450 ping (due to my ping being complete crap right now)
https://youtu.be/5JRVXuBVjnI
https://youtu.be/5JRVXuBVjnI
yoi triggers overload with N5 at frame 306, then with N1-1 at frame 338 = 32 frame difference
overload deals damage both times, but fischl A4 doesn't trigger
overload deals damage both times, but fischl A4 doesn't trigger
TiBotSat, August 6, 2022 at 04:07 AM
Ticket verified by @bowtae
bowtaeSat, August 6, 2022 at 04:11 AM
the 2nd N5 hits frame 478, then N1-1 hits frame 513 = 35 frame difference
fischl A4 triggers both times
so seems like it's close to 0.5s but not exactly?
fischl A4 triggers both times
so seems like it's close to 0.5s but not exactly?
TiBotSat, August 6, 2022 at 08:01 AM
Ticket verified by @Lino
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