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TiBotTue, September 5, 2023 at 09:11 PM
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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion
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ReensTue, September 5, 2023 at 09:12 PM
Freminet Basic Mechanics Ticket
Put all mechanics findings for Lynette here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.

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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:
Finding:

Evidence:

Significance:


Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics
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Pol😭moTue, September 5, 2023 at 11:24 PM
Finding: Freminet's Skill cooldown starts on its first cast.
Evidence: In the attached footage, it is possible to see that the remaining cooldown displayed after the 2nd Skill cast is lower according to the time that has passed since activating Pers Timer.
https://youtu.be/FM1KlkhNPcA
Significance: Skill mechanics
Finding: The Pers Timer state persists through swapping characters
Evidence: In the attached footage, it is possible to see Pers is still present on the right-hand side after swapping back to Freminet. https://youtu.be/ZgVjnbyOhSI
Significance: Skill mechanics
Finding: The 200% Frost DMG during Freminet's Burst is a Base DMG Multiplier
Evidence: In the attached footage, the Frost DMG outside of Burst is 402; inside Burst, it is 804. This increase is equivalent to multiplying damage by 200%. https://youtu.be/4u813DPXsio
Significance: Burst mechanics
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emmausWed, September 6, 2023 at 07:44 AM
Finding: Freminet energy gen is 2 particles on the upthrust of his E, but never his down thrust on Shattering Pressure LVL0-3. On level 4 Shattering Pressure, he generates 1 particle on hit. During burst, he generates 1 particle on upthrust, and 1 particle on level 4 Shattering Pressure
Evidence: https://youtu.be/U_h_m7_mbA8
https://youtu.be/jyFjgVHX5zc
https://youtu.be/nOQPdFS5yYc

Significance: Skill Mechanics
Finding: All Cryo DMG from Freminet's Elemental Skill share the same ICD, with a standard 3 hits/2.5s cooldown. This doesn't change during burst
Evidence: https://youtu.be/MEnPMoQ8RFU

Significance: Skill ICD. It's not guaranteed to melt a specific hit on either the upthrust or Shattering Pressure, as either can melt depending on ICD
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Reply to Avatar emmaus: Finding: All Cryo DMG from Freminet's Elemental Skill share the same ICD, with a standard 3 hits/2.5s cooldown. This doesn't change during burst
lunaflawWed, September 6, 2023 at 02:36 PM
does this include the extra cryo hits in his NAs from E (frost DMG - 12.2% at L9)?
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emmausWed, September 6, 2023 at 02:36 PM
yes. ALL CRYO DMG
NotLikeGanyu1
Frost DMG is still Skill DMG
Trolldespair1
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f99shiThu, September 14, 2023 at 04:23 AM
Finding: if you jump or fall from any height after you reach 4 stacks with his E, you will be able to keep doing normal attacks despite being at full stacks, and you can only E2 by pressing E again

Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/zIyHFuZ https://imgur.com/a/UFi31on
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mustproceedquicklyTue, November 28, 2023 at 03:29 AM
Finding: If you hold the attack button with good timing just as Freminet gains a pressure level, you can infinitely extend the spin charge attack. This can normally be done on any claymore character by interrupting the CA with any menu, but Freminet is the only character in the game that can do this technique without any menuing. Can be done after N1, N2, or N3.

Significance: Spin

https://youtu.be/4MyuSvfHLww
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Reply to Avatar mustproceedquickly: Finding: If you hold the attack button with good timing just as Freminet gains a pressure level, you can infinitely extend the spin charge attack. This can normally be done on any claymore character by interrupting the CA with any menu, but Freminet is the only character in the game that can do this technique without any menuing. Can be done after N1, N2, or N3.
「Hydroxide」Wed, November 29, 2023 at 04:21 PM
Extended Finding: Infinite spin has no correlation to Freminet's pressure stacks, only to do with his normals themselves

Evidence: https://youtu.be/f3QdW1sbW_A

Significance: Spin²
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OMEGALUL1
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jamberry since yall r confusedSun, May 12, 2024 at 05:01 AM
finding: frames
evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-8k4DS0hQ
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_uf2P0q9X19lAF4QG82_fz3QnphAbKi3MeZfcNUcPFw/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HN27QpER7lhgWJr_t2HxsdnTc0i135lxqzLXhveEsD0/edit?usp=sharing
significance: frames
credit: @kolibri._. and @soloxcx
Freminet - frames
0:00 NA String - hitmark

0:14 E (Flow) - hitmark
0:19 E (Level 0) - hitmark
0:24 E (Level 4) - hitmark

0:30 NA String during E Frost DMG - hitmark

0:47 Q - duration

1:25 NA String (including N4 ➔ N1)

1:44 N1 ➔ Walk

1:51 N2 ➔ Walk

2:00 N3 ➔ Walk

2:10 N4 ➔ Walk

2:25 E (Flow) ➔ N1
2:35 E (Flow) ➔ E
2:44 E (Flow) ➔ Q
2:54 E (Flow) ➔ D
3:...
Freminet Frames
Attacks

Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial 3
Hitmarks,N1,26,26,25,hitlag,stuff with hitlag:
- Frames it takes to go from "Start of Animation of the action/Hitlag end of previous hit for multihits" to "Hitlag start" (1 frame after the char is frozen)

stuff without hitlag:
- Frames it takes to go from "Start ...
Freminet missing frames
Attacks


Q,Hitmark,44,44,44
CD Start,0,0,0
Energy drained,5,4,3
counts are done by Kolibri#7675 and based on https://youtu.be/4eJgjaZ8pck by Kolibri#7675
E (Flow),Hitmark Thorn,60,62,64,using camera shake
counts are done by Kolibri#7675 and based on
need gauge
@🐟 wanna do frem gauge
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🐟Sun, May 12, 2024 at 07:42 AM
What's up with all the cryo gauges
Will be able to do them today
Freminet Gauges:
Upward Thrust: 1U
Level 0-3: 1U
Burst: 1U
Appears to be standard ICD on skill, shared between the slashes

Evidence: https://youtu.be/WX4_x9YENsg

(though someone could frame count the ICD hit maybe to see how long that was)
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jamberry since yall r confusedSun, May 12, 2024 at 01:09 PM
that's the last real thing frem needed if anyone wants to PR this now and then we can be only 5 patches behind :YAEPOGGIESLIDE:
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TiBotSun, May 19, 2024 at 02:53 AM
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