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funny-barbloom

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TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:33 PM

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Significance: Conclusion

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3hyefrOd_Q

Bloom Barbara Potential | Genshin Impact 3.0

Brief Summary
Barbara skill ring is spawning ridiculous numbers of blooms due to an interaction around the classification of Dendro cores as entities and her ring triggering damage on entering her aoe

@nzpieface its my turn on the cursed ticket

nzpiefaceSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:38 PM

the better nilou

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:38 PM

use both

I did a cursed sheet for it

its beyond broken

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:40 PM

whats the ticket even for

we know how it works no?

idk I dont exactly do tickets lmao

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM

it probably needs a tcl entry

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM

ah

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM

Half of our clips are not sendable here

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM

how come

oh

wait

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM

ps

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM

yeah

figured

drak__: Brief Summary

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM

what else needs to even be said
this + the fact that this causes her ring to pulsate hydro every time a dendro core enters, meaning that enemies nearby continuously are attempted to have hydro applied to them, and in 3+ enemy scenarios, this causes the 3-hit condition for ICD to be met near instantaneously, applying hydro again, making more seeds and creating an infinite loop for as long as there is a dendro aura

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM

we need more clips on live

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:45 PM

Barbruh officially best DPS

What's a Xiangling ?

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:45 PM

barbara best dps and she doesnt even do blue numbers

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:46 PM

green numbers

Rapsy 💎Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:46 PM

Kinda hard to beat seeds spawning every 0.13s

Kinda hard to get 3 non-pushable small enough self grouping enemies

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:46 PM

bloom knockback is hardly noticeable anyway no?

Rapsy 💎: Kinda hard to get 3 non-pushable small enough self grouping enemies

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:47 PM

it wouldnt matter if your blooms had eula aoe

hypothetically

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:47 PM

hypothetically

zasshu.: bloom knockback is hardly noticeable anyway no?

Rapsy 💎Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:47 PM

When you pop 50

In like 2 seconds

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:48 PM

shh

Rapsy 💎Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:48 PM

It should almost sit down a ruin guard

Tho they're frozen

drak__: green numbers

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:48 PM

green is just blue in a spotlight
and Barb is in a spotlight now

ena6013: green is just blue in a spotlight

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:49 PM

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:49 PM

"bug"

E is working exactly as intended reeeeee. Dont give mhy excuses to fix this

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:49 PM

fine

TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:50 PM

This ticket has been renamed to funny barbloom by @drak__

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:50 PM

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:50 PM

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:51 PM

there a batter name

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:52 PM

Barbara deals 100k dps

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:52 PM

but I like barbloom

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:52 PM

Barbloom do be nice ye

khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

is there perms for the footage used

drak__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3hyefrOd_Q

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

is those robots adds hit box fked up or what? how can barb hit 3 of the same time from that position?

khezu01: is there perms for the footage used

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

I need to rerecord

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

make it Barbara E interaction with entities ...

ena6013: is those robots adds hit box fked up or what? how can barb hit 3 of the same time from that position?

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

shes only hitting one

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

I guess since we know how it works the only thing left is to find other comps that can abuse the core spam (burgeon/hyperbloom stuff?)

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

idk anything like that

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

we have other footage its just

not usable here

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

since this is not unique to dendro cores

khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

True

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM

the interaction still occurs at one enemy
but its not as insane because you dont immediately hit 3-hit rule

khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

make it a general ticket about the specific interaction

eternaldream: I guess since we know how it works the only thing left is to find other comps that can abuse the core spam (burgeon/hyperbloom stuff?)

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

can you even trigger them as anything but rupture when they spawn this fast

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

there's always going to be cores on field if you are rupturing

so yes

drak__: not usable here

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

wdym? what it needs to be?

ena6013: wdym? what it needs to be?

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

ps

khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

It needs to be not ps

kolibri._.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM

https://youtu.be/i31AYi5apIE
Entities that enter Barbara's Melody Ring AoE have a 1.5s cooldown on triggering it. This cooldown is separate per entity, so you can have multiple 1.5s timers coexisting at once which leads to more Melody Ring procs. Every new entity will proc her Melody Loop and then it will enter a 1.5s cooldown before the same entity can proc it again.

Barbara E Collision - Seed Interaction Test 2

even more blooms

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daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM

kolibri._.: https://youtu.be/i31AYi5apIE

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM

I didnt even get the game open yet

lets go

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM

if you want a clear video

eternaldream: there's always going to be cores on field if you are rupturing

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM

rapsy said she makes a new batch every 0.13 seconds (presumably from logs)
so you have a window of 0.13-0.26 seconds to hit one with another element assuming 3 enemies

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

All clips I've seen of it in action have cores sticking around long enough for something like ie Kuki to trigger em so

the point is to mostly have rupture but some hyper/burgeon on the side maybe

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

btw the blooms have actually HUGE hit box compare to what we see, we need that also somehow TC-ed

eternaldream: the point is to mostly have rupture but some hyper/burgeon on the side maybe

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

this is probably semi doable?

eternaldream: All clips I've seen of it in action have cores sticking around long enough for something like ie Kuki to trigger em so

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

Kuki would hit the cap tho, 2 every 1.5s

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

since last slot is sort of flexible

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

the spread would be like 90% bloom though

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM

Maybe Dori ?

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:57 PM

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

if you want something else than just dendro cores

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

doggo getting hit by every melody loop trigger

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

that is....just animal torture

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

for science

daibangden: if you want something else than just dendro cores

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

THE POOR DOGS

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

i'm healing them though

:barbaraDespair:

daibangden: if you want something else than just dendro cores

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

You're a sadist 💀

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM

Those poor animals...

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:03 PM

someone else posted this in TC
its not E-skill alone but still shows
barb in 2 targets and then 1 target bloom spawns with real content in abys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0Eqd9urCM

バーバラちゃんのフルーツパーティー vs 遺跡ドレイクちゃん

バーバラちゃん遺跡ドレイクちゃんにフルーツパーティーしましたーー☺️

drak__: it probably needs a tcl entry

TibotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:04 PM

tcl's currently under a pr freeze while we're migrating things so let's hope it isn't fixed soon or it'll directly go under fixed bugs

4

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:04 PM

if we just want the evidence for interaction and how it works just use the mushroom one

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:05 PM

ye mushroom example is quite simple and ingenuous
the animal cruelty ones also very

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:06 PM

Literally animal cruelty

No cap the biggest feature missing in Genshin is being able to pet dogs

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:07 PM

we need a character to spawn a dog or something

dog pet

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:09 PM

Gorou?

eternaldream: I guess since we know how it works the only thing left is to find other comps that can abuse the core spam (burgeon/hyperbloom stuff?)

Rapsy 💎Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:10 PM

Works hilariously with pyro regisvine instant pyro aura around itself but not on itself

But you somehow need to get in 2 more friends to help out

ena6013: someone else posted this in TC

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:11 PM

It's actually quite interesting how well it still works on single target because you can patch up the slower hydro from loop procs with just barbara normals

it just turns into kokomi bloom at that point lel

drak__: we need a character to spawn a dog or something

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:12 PM

Gorou says hii

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:12 PM

but gorou is the dog

rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:13 PM

There's this key called E

It spawns a vewy cute doggo

Actually I think Q does as well

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:14 PM

eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:14 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFh4kFBaIAAO8Cv?format=jpg&name=large

Attachment

(?)

Anyway, highly off-topic

zasshu.: what else needs to even be said

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:18 PM

stealing this for write-up

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:18 PM

np

just pay me first

zasshu.: just pay me first

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:18 PM

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:19 PM

theres no nqn here is there

sadge

oh wait there is nqn

rockidayo: Gorou says hii

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:19 PM

Ushi says moo

1

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:19 PM

:susagreege:

fk

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:20 PM

Finding/Bug: Barbara water ring triggers on entities

Evidence: Barbara skill ring is spawning ridiculous numbers of blooms due to an interaction around the classification of Dendro cores as entities and her ring triggering damage on entering her aoe. This causes her ring to pulsate hydro every time a dendro core enters, meaning that enemies nearby continuously are attempted to have hydro applied to them, and in 3+ enemy scenarios, this causes the 3-hit condition for ICD to be met near instantaneously, applying hydro again, making more seeds and creating an infinite loop for as long as there is a dendro aura

https://youtu.be/i31AYi5apIE
https://youtu.be/tAKXkuK_03A

Significance: Barbara skill can lead to extremely high bloom counts very easily reaching the cap.

Barbara E Collision - Seed Interaction Test 2

even more blooms

Barbara Bloom Interaction

Credit to daibangden#8410 on KQM for the clip

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:21 PM

take out the "this + the fact that"

it just sounds odd

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:22 PM

zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:22 PM

TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:23 PM

@drak__ added @zasshu. as contributor

@drak__ added @kolibri._. as contributor

TibotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:23 PM

Don't forget to upload evidence to youtube

discord deletes attachments when channel is deleted

TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:24 PM

@drak__ added @daibangden as contributor

drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:24 PM

do you want to upload or should I?

daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:25 PM

you do whatever you want with it

TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:27 PM

Ticket closed by @drak__. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.

eternaldream: it just turns into kokomi bloom at that point lel

ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:28 PM

i think from close position XQ with c6 can do about same as "barb" so called abusing her E skill circle
dude can do 4 hydro application in 3 sec from burst and another from rain swords screen/orbitals

BabelTea DO YOU KYOTOSun, September 18, 2022 at 06:36 PM

can sayu roll in and out and make barbara trigger more hydro?

sayunado shit

drak__: Finding/Bug: Barbara water ring triggers on entities

makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:14 AM

What is the 'cap'?

Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Mon, September 19, 2022 at 04:24 AM

I was so happy to find this but got speeded

Dammit

Motherfuckers let us have fun

3

:painge:

This is funny as hell though

makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:34 AM

What's for anni? Barbie nerf

/jk

Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Mon, September 19, 2022 at 04:34 AM

Wait a damn second

Is there

Any other ability that triggers on entity?

God

Please

If we have a no ICD entity trigger

We can break the game

🙏

makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:35 AM

If there is, wait for Nilou release before you find it

Then I'll see how quick hoyo can really be with bug fixes

Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Mon, September 19, 2022 at 04:36 AM

This one is easy though

Change one word from entity to enemy

But

I hope they don’t

Cause it would be fucking hilarious

makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:38 AM

They did push it to a future patch so, have fun

makeway4pk: They did push it to a future patch so, have fun

Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Mon, September 19, 2022 at 04:41 AM

Now how fast can you do this in coop with 3 Barbaras

zenjuryMon, September 19, 2022 at 05:54 AM

cap by Dendro app

TiBotMon, September 19, 2022 at 09:13 AM

Ticket verified by @whale role

Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?: If we have a no ICD entity trigger

pushingtheedgeMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:50 PM

https://streamable.com/qj57h0 this?

Genshin Impact 2022.09.19 - 23.20.56.02.DVR_Trim

zenjury: cap by Dendro app

ena6013Mon, September 19, 2022 at 08:00 PM

who is best on field cryo? to fridge? ayaka? dash NA+CA? repeat?
cryo and 2 barb and 1 dendro(tignary best dendro spammer probably)

Pavme | NATue, September 20, 2022 at 01:57 AM

How does it work? Did it get patched

f99shiTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:11 AM

it works because barbara ring does an attack when a new enemy touches the ring, and dendro cores also trigger this attack as if theyre enemies, so it applies a shit ton of hydro

its not patched yet but it will

f99shi: it works because barbara ring does an attack when a new enemy touches the ring, and dendro cores also trigger this attack as if theyre enemies, so it applies a shit ton of hydro

Rapsy 💎Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:04 PM

Initially I thought that her E just had a range parameter that caused it to go quadratic on seeds. Turns out it's a special interaction they added only for Barbara.

A cheap and dirty way to get enemies wet instantly upon entering Barbara ring. No other hydro aura does this as attacking every 0.5s turns out is more than enough to make the illusion of instant wet without breaking things like Barbruh does

TiBotTue, September 20, 2022 at 07:32 PM

Ticket verified by @itzsomebody | chris

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