KQM | Genshin Impact
funny-barbloom
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TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:33 PM
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drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:34 PM
Brief Summary
Barbara skill ring is spawning ridiculous numbers of blooms due to an interaction around the classification of Dendro cores as entities and her ring triggering damage on entering her aoe
Barbara skill ring is spawning ridiculous numbers of blooms due to an interaction around the classification of Dendro cores as entities and her ring triggering damage on entering her aoe
@nzpieface its my turn on the cursed ticket 
nzpiefaceSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:38 PM
the better nilou
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:38 PM
use both 
I did a cursed sheet for it
its beyond broken
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:40 PM
whats the ticket even for
we know how it works no?
idk I dont exactly do tickets lmao
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM
it probably needs a tcl entry
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM
ah
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM
Half of our clips are not sendable here
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM
how come
oh
wait
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM
ps
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:41 PM
yeah
figured
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM
what else needs to even be said
this + the fact that this causes her ring to pulsate hydro every time a dendro core enters, meaning that enemies nearby continuously are attempted to have hydro applied to them, and in 3+ enemy scenarios, this causes the 3-hit condition for ICD to be met near instantaneously, applying hydro again, making more seeds and creating an infinite loop for as long as there is a dendro aura
this + the fact that this causes her ring to pulsate hydro every time a dendro core enters, meaning that enemies nearby continuously are attempted to have hydro applied to them, and in 3+ enemy scenarios, this causes the 3-hit condition for ICD to be met near instantaneously, applying hydro again, making more seeds and creating an infinite loop for as long as there is a dendro aura
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM
we need more clips on live
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:44 PM
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:45 PM
Barbruh officially best DPS
What's a Xiangling ?
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:45 PM
barbara best dps and she doesnt even do blue numbers
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:46 PM
green numbers
Rapsy ๐Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:46 PM
Kinda hard to beat seeds spawning every 0.13s
Kinda hard to get 3 non-pushable small enough self grouping enemies
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:46 PM
bloom knockback is hardly noticeable anyway no?
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:47 PM
it wouldnt matter if your blooms had eula aoe
hypothetically
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:47 PM
hypothetically
Rapsy ๐Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:47 PM
When you pop 50
In like 2 seconds
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:48 PM
shh
Rapsy ๐Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:48 PM
It should almost sit down a ruin guard
Tho they're frozen
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:48 PM
green is just blue in a spotlight
and Barb is in a spotlight now
and Barb is in a spotlight now
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:49 PM
"bug" 
E is working exactly as intended reeeeee. Dont give mhy excuses to fix this
E is working exactly as intended reeeeee. Dont give mhy excuses to fix this
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:49 PM
fine
TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:50 PM
This ticket has been renamed to
funny barbloom by @drak__eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:50 PM
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:50 PM
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:51 PM
there a batter name
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:52 PM
Barbara deals 100k dps
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:52 PM
but I like barbloom 
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:52 PM
Barbloom do be nice ye
khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
is there perms for the footage used 
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
is those robots adds hit box fked up or what? how can barb hit 3 of the same time from that position?
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
I need to rerecord
daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
make it Barbara E interaction with entities ...
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
shes only hitting one
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
I guess since we know how it works the only thing left is to find other comps that can abuse the core spam (burgeon/hyperbloom stuff?)
daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
idk anything like that
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
we have other footage its just
not usable here
daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
since this is not unique to dendro cores
khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
True
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:53 PM
the interaction still occurs at one enemy
but its not as insane because you dont immediately hit 3-hit rule
but its not as insane because you dont immediately hit 3-hit rule
khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM
make it a general ticket about the specific interaction
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM
can you even trigger them as anything but rupture when they spawn this fast
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM
there's always going to be cores on field if you are rupturing
so yes
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM
wdym? what it needs to be?
khezu01Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM
It needs to be not ps 
kolibri._.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:54 PM
https://youtu.be/i31AYi5apIE
Entities that enter Barbara's Melody Ring AoE have a 1.5s cooldown on triggering it. This cooldown is separate per entity, so you can have multiple 1.5s timers coexisting at once which leads to more Melody Ring procs. Every new entity will proc her Melody Loop and then it will enter a 1.5s cooldown before the same entity can proc it again.
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Entities that enter Barbara's Melody Ring AoE have a 1.5s cooldown on triggering it. This cooldown is separate per entity, so you can have multiple 1.5s timers coexisting at once which leads to more Melody Ring procs. Every new entity will proc her Melody Loop and then it will enter a 1.5s cooldown before the same entity can proc it again.
1daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM
I didnt even get the game open yet 
lets go
daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM
if you want a clear video
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:55 PM
rapsy said she makes a new batch every 0.13 seconds (presumably from logs)
so you have a window of 0.13-0.26 seconds to hit one with another element assuming 3 enemies
so you have a window of 0.13-0.26 seconds to hit one with another element assuming 3 enemies
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
All clips I've seen of it in action have cores sticking around long enough for something like ie Kuki to trigger em so 
the point is to mostly have rupture but some hyper/burgeon on the side maybe
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
btw the blooms have actually HUGE hit box compare to what we see, we need that also somehow TC-ed
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
this is probably semi doable?
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
Kuki would hit the cap tho, 2 every 1.5s
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
since last slot is sort of flexible
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
the spread would be like 90% bloom though
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:56 PM
Maybe Dori ?
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:57 PM
daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
if you want something else than just dendro cores
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
doggo getting hit by every melody loop trigger
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
that is....just animal torture
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
for science
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
THE POOR DOGS
daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
i'm healing them though 
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
You're a sadist ๐
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 04:58 PM
Those poor animals...
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:03 PM
someone else posted this in TC
its not E-skill alone but still shows
barb in 2 targets and then 1 target bloom spawns with real content in abys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0Eqd9urCM
its not E-skill alone but still shows
barb in 2 targets and then 1 target bloom spawns with real content in abys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0Eqd9urCM
ใใผใใฉใกใใใฎใใซใผใใใผใใฃใผ vs ้บ่ทกใใฌใคใฏใกใใ
ใใผใใฉใกใใ้บ่ทกใใฌใคใฏใกใใใซใใซใผใใใผใใฃใผใใพใใใผใผโบ๏ธ
TibotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:04 PM
tcl's currently under a pr freeze while we're migrating things so let's hope it isn't fixed soon or it'll directly go under fixed bugs 4
4daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:04 PM
if we just want the evidence for interaction and how it works just use the mushroom one
ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:05 PM
ye mushroom example is quite simple and ingenuous
the animal cruelty ones also very
the animal cruelty ones also very
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:06 PM
Literally animal cruelty
No cap the biggest feature missing in Genshin is being able to pet dogs
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:07 PM
we need a character to spawn a dog or something
dog pet
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:09 PM
Gorou? 
Rapsy ๐Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:10 PM
Works hilariously with pyro regisvine instant pyro aura around itself but not on itself
But you somehow need to get in 2 more friends to help out
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:11 PM
It's actually quite interesting how well it still works on single target because you can patch up the slower hydro from loop procs with just barbara normals
it just turns into kokomi bloom at that point lel
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:12 PM
Gorou says hii
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:12 PM
but gorou is the dog
rockidayoSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:13 PM
There's this key called E
It spawns a vewy cute doggo
Actually I think Q does as well
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:14 PM
eternaldreamSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:14 PM
Anyway, highly off-topic
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:18 PM
stealing this for write-up 
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:18 PM
np
just pay me first
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:19 PM
theres no nqn here is there
sadge
oh wait there is nqn
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:19 PM
:susagreege:
fk
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:20 PM
Finding/Bug: Barbara water ring triggers on entities
Evidence: Barbara skill ring is spawning ridiculous numbers of blooms due to an interaction around the classification of Dendro cores as entities and her ring triggering damage on entering her aoe. This causes her ring to pulsate hydro every time a dendro core enters, meaning that enemies nearby continuously are attempted to have hydro applied to them, and in 3+ enemy scenarios, this causes the 3-hit condition for ICD to be met near instantaneously, applying hydro again, making more seeds and creating an infinite loop for as long as there is a dendro aura
https://youtu.be/i31AYi5apIE
https://youtu.be/tAKXkuK_03A
Significance: Barbara skill can lead to extremely high bloom counts very easily reaching the cap.
Evidence: Barbara skill ring is spawning ridiculous numbers of blooms due to an interaction around the classification of Dendro cores as entities and her ring triggering damage on entering her aoe. This causes her ring to pulsate hydro every time a dendro core enters, meaning that enemies nearby continuously are attempted to have hydro applied to them, and in 3+ enemy scenarios, this causes the 3-hit condition for ICD to be met near instantaneously, applying hydro again, making more seeds and creating an infinite loop for as long as there is a dendro aura
https://youtu.be/i31AYi5apIE
https://youtu.be/tAKXkuK_03A
Significance: Barbara skill can lead to extremely high bloom counts very easily reaching the cap.
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:21 PM
take out the "this + the fact that"
it just sounds odd
drak__Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:22 PM
zasshu.Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:22 PM
TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:23 PM
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TibotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:23 PM
Don't forget to upload evidence to youtube
discord deletes attachments when channel is deleted
TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:24 PM
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daibangdenSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:25 PM
you do whatever you want with it
TiBotSun, September 18, 2022 at 05:27 PM
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/open.ena6013Sun, September 18, 2022 at 05:28 PM
i think from close position XQ with c6 can do about same as "barb" so called abusing her E skill circle
dude can do 4 hydro application in 3 sec from burst and another from rain swords screen/orbitals
dude can do 4 hydro application in 3 sec from burst and another from rain swords screen/orbitals
Paimon Pronouns: PaimonSun, September 18, 2022 at 06:36 PM
can sayu roll in and out and make barbara trigger more hydro?
sayunado shit
makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:14 AM
What is the 'cap'?
.magnusartifexMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:24 AM
I was so happy to find this but got speeded
Dammit
Motherfuckers let us have fun
3
3:painge:
This is funny as hell though
makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:34 AM
What's for anni? Barbie nerf
/jk
.magnusartifexMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:34 AM
Wait a damn second
Is there
Any other ability that triggers on entity?
God
Please
If we have a no ICD entity trigger
We can break the game
๐
makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:35 AM
If there is, wait for Nilou release before you find it
Then I'll see how quick hoyo can really be with bug fixes
.magnusartifexMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:36 AM
This one is easy though
Change one word from entity to enemy
But
I hope they donโt
Cause it would be fucking hilarious
makeway4pkMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:38 AM
They did push it to a future patch so, have fun
.magnusartifexMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:41 AM
Now how fast can you do this in coop with 3 Barbaras
zenjuryMon, September 19, 2022 at 05:54 AM
cap by Dendro app
TiBotMon, September 19, 2022 at 09:13 AM
Ticket verified by @whale role
pushingtheedgeMon, September 19, 2022 at 04:50 PM
ena6013Mon, September 19, 2022 at 08:00 PM
who is best on field cryo? to fridge? ayaka? dash NA+CA? repeat?
cryo and 2 barb and 1 dendro(tignary best dendro spammer probably)
cryo and 2 barb and 1 dendro(tignary best dendro spammer probably)
Pavme | NATue, September 20, 2022 at 01:57 AM
How does it work? Did it get patched
f99shiTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:11 AM
it works because barbara ring does an attack when a new enemy touches the ring, and dendro cores also trigger this attack as if theyre enemies, so it applies a shit ton of hydro
its not patched yet but it will
Rapsy ๐Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:04 PM
Initially I thought that her E just had a range parameter that caused it to go quadratic on seeds. Turns out it's a special interaction they added only for Barbara.
A cheap and dirty way to get enemies wet instantly upon entering Barbara ring. No other hydro aura does this as attacking every 0.5s turns out is more than enough to make the illusion of instant wet without breaking things like Barbruh does
A cheap and dirty way to get enemies wet instantly upon entering Barbara ring. No other hydro aura does this as attacking every 0.5s turns out is more than enough to make the illusion of instant wet without breaking things like Barbruh does
TiBotTue, September 20, 2022 at 07:32 PM
Ticket verified by @itzsomebody | chris
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