KQM | Genshin Impact
geo-aura-investigation
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TiBotTue, July 12, 2022 at 03:47 PM
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Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 03:47 PM
evidence soon tm
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:03 PM
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:05 PM
just to confirm, there were no crystallize shards right?
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:05 PM
nope
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:09 PM
then this must mean that there are different geo auras; those that you can crystalliz off of (like geo slimes) and those you cant (like zl q)
Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Tue, July 12, 2022 at 04:14 PM
Use elemental sight to check if thereβs actually an aura
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:15 PM
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:26 PM
hmmmge indeed lmao
could you test applying geo (via another way) and then immediately trying to crystallize? i'm wondering if the geo arua caused by perrify is different from other geo auras
Magnus Artifex | Chiori C1 how?Tue, July 12, 2022 at 04:28 PM
Use Xiangling or just another player
Or stick to the enemy with Barbara/XQ
Stuff like that
Hell
Use water
Make it 
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:29 PM
so like zhongli Q > element > another geo application?
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:30 PM
no, something like gorou E > elemental application.
we know that geo persist for a very short while when you hit with geo. i am wondering if it's possible to react off it
we know that geo persist for a very short while when you hit with geo. i am wondering if it's possible to react off it
but swapping may take too long
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:31 PM
I think you should ask someone with lower ping to try
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:31 PM
ah you can just use zl pillar actually
just need to make sure to apply an element right after a resonance hits
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:35 PM
not seeing any geo aura
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 04:40 PM
what π³ π³ π³ π³ π³
aeveanleeowTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:04 PM
til zhong q applies a geo aura, at least visually
and i actually use him sometimes so lol
the fischl guide is faaaaaaaakeTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:05 PM
its probably just be a "petrify" aura that doesnt react with anything 
aeveanleeowTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:06 PM
well, it is good to document all the things that it doesnt interact with
in the name of useless tc
the best kind of tc
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:15 PM
this is what i'm speculating as well.
normal geo application = no aura
petrify = aura but inert
normal geo application = no aura
petrify = aura but inert
Shampoo | burger enthusiastTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:27 PM
Rathalos | I will finish itTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:27 PM
aeveanleeowTue, July 12, 2022 at 05:38 PM
normal apps probably dont work but what about environmental apps
man itll be a bitch to test rain wouldnt it
youd have to cast zhong q right before its raining
during rain even if you clear hydro aura the rain will just reapply hydro during q cast time
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingWed, July 13, 2022 at 10:53 PM
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Oh, the reason why people thought Mihoyo changed Zhongli's kit 
Someone found out about this in 1.1 in reddit, and one of the prevailing theories from back then was that petrify was suppose to cause a state where the enemies would act as a Geo construct (Thus petrified enemies would resonate with pillar and also can be turned to dust by his hold E) but Mihoyo chickened out of that and just made his petrify do the thing it does today
Someone found out about this in 1.1 in reddit, and one of the prevailing theories from back then was that petrify was suppose to cause a state where the enemies would act as a Geo construct (Thus petrified enemies would resonate with pillar and also can be turned to dust by his hold E) but Mihoyo chickened out of that and just made his petrify do the thing it does todayProlly useless info but 
The rumor was that due to that, petrify still applies Geo aura but it does nothing anymore
I can't really recall, or test right now but if I remember correctly, if you hold E on petrified enemies it also gives you the special vfx that you get if you hold E on the things you can deplete Geo aura from
If there are nearby targets with the Geo element, it will drain a large amount of Geo element from a maximum of 2 such targets. This effect does not cause DMG.
This part of his kit
here, the special vfx
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingThu, July 14, 2022 at 11:21 AM
hm does hold E deplete the geo "aura" from petrify i wonder
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I don't think it does
but do check
If it does I guess that semi confirms that the rumor was true and Mihoyo really just left spaghetti coding behind 
nzpiefaceThu, July 14, 2022 at 10:45 PM
maybe, maybe not 
TiBotThu, July 21, 2022 at 11:00 PM
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This channel hasn't been active in the past week!Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:39 AM
Finding: Geo "Aura" investigation.
Evidence: There exists a Geo Aura in some enemies (Geo Hypostasis, Shielded Large Geo Slime, Armored Stonehide Lawachurl and Armoed Fatui Skirmisher - Geochanter Bracer) and in the Petrified status from Zhongli's Elemental Burst. This Aura possesses some interesting properties:
Β€ Opponents who have this Aura have a Geo symbol above them, which can also appear above special boss-like health-bars, and they also have the Geo color when looked at with the Elemental Sight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Ro0vl4aY0.
Β€ The Aura is completely inert; not even Crystallize can be triggered. Geo Aura can co-exist with other elements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Ko4uSVujo.
Β€ Geo attacks don't apply the Geo Aura. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GlX5SjeyFs
Β€ You can still cause a Crystallize reaction on an opponent with the Geo Aura if you apply an element and then hit with a Geo attack. https://youtu.be/5kOcGatrkMo.
Β€ Zhongli Hold E doesn't deplete the Geo Aura from Petrification. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOkctw_wNk.
Other remarks:
Β€ Geo Aura doesn't have natural decay. It lasts until a status is removed (eg. Petrification duration ends, or the Geo Shield/Armor is broken).
Β€ Depletion of "GU" from Geo shields/armors should probably be attributed to the shield/armor mechanics, and not the Geo Aura itself.
Significance: Better understanding of the elements.
Evidence: There exists a Geo Aura in some enemies (Geo Hypostasis, Shielded Large Geo Slime, Armored Stonehide Lawachurl and Armoed Fatui Skirmisher - Geochanter Bracer) and in the Petrified status from Zhongli's Elemental Burst. This Aura possesses some interesting properties:
Β€ Opponents who have this Aura have a Geo symbol above them, which can also appear above special boss-like health-bars, and they also have the Geo color when looked at with the Elemental Sight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Ro0vl4aY0.
Β€ The Aura is completely inert; not even Crystallize can be triggered. Geo Aura can co-exist with other elements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Ko4uSVujo.
Β€ Geo attacks don't apply the Geo Aura. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GlX5SjeyFs
Β€ You can still cause a Crystallize reaction on an opponent with the Geo Aura if you apply an element and then hit with a Geo attack. https://youtu.be/5kOcGatrkMo.
Β€ Zhongli Hold E doesn't deplete the Geo Aura from Petrification. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOkctw_wNk.
Other remarks:
Β€ Geo Aura doesn't have natural decay. It lasts until a status is removed (eg. Petrification duration ends, or the Geo Shield/Armor is broken).
Β€ Depletion of "GU" from Geo shields/armors should probably be attributed to the shield/armor mechanics, and not the Geo Aura itself.
Significance: Better understanding of the elements.
@Rathalos | I will finish it @Shampoo | burger enthusiast could you guys upload your videos to youtube? if you cant, i can upload them too.
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:41 AM
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:46 AM
this too plz
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:47 AM
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:48 AM
thanks a bunch!
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:50 AM
lmk if you need me to record something else
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 11:51 AM
a video like this where you use the elemental sight to see if zl hold E depletes the petrified aura
not sure if you can use the elemental sight while attacking tho
oh, the tcl for zl doesnt say anything about how much geo gu hold e removes
from my experience playing with him, it should be a large amount
the wiki says it will drain 8U or 6U
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, July 22, 2022 at 12:00 PM
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 12:00 PM
if hold e doesnt turn out to affect the petrification geo aura, it prolly means hold e doesnt see the petrification aura as a target
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, July 22, 2022 at 12:02 PM
let me get a better recording 
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 12:02 PM
well, idk how much we can call it an arua now π
seems like the "aura" lasts exactly as long as the petrification lasts
so it doesnt have any gauge units related to it
so for all intents and purposes, it's visual
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, July 22, 2022 at 12:09 PM
this is a better recording I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOkctw_wNk
anything else?
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingFri, July 22, 2022 at 12:11 PM
no, thanks for the recordings
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Stealing this for Zhongli Basic mechanics cause TCL is missing a ton of Zhongli info 1
1Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingMon, July 25, 2022 at 06:47 PM
i was always under the impression that non-geo characters could trigger crystallize on a shielded geo slime
apparently not
so i'm thinking zl petrify and geo slime shields work similarly?
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The idea is that there's two kinds of Geo Aura: One that causes Crystallize and one that doesn't, right?
I'm aware that the Primo GeoVishap can be Crystallized of off, which made me wonder
what about the Geo Hypostasis?
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 26, 2022 at 11:58 AM
i dont believe the vishap has a geo aura?
are you talking about affecting yourself with an element and letting the vishap hit you?
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You're right, I must have misremembered it
You're right, I must have misremembered itCan you Crystallise off Geo Hypostasis? I feel like my memory is saying yes but I'm not sure
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingTue, July 26, 2022 at 12:01 PM
yeah me too but would need to check
i'd also like to check the geo lawachurl
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daibangdenWed, July 27, 2022 at 12:26 PM
#Lawachurl-gigachad
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingThu, July 28, 2022 at 11:46 AM
did that use to be a ticket?
daibangdenThu, July 28, 2022 at 02:22 PM
ye it was mine, did not win 100k thoughb
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingThu, July 28, 2022 at 02:31 PM
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Markoda | Jean β‘ me but I β‘ GeosTue, August 2, 2022 at 07:30 AM
if only we can tell if they specifically have a different aura type for "inert Geo" in the datamine
Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingSat, August 6, 2022 at 12:51 AMi hate this i hate this someone plz take over this ticket i beg π
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LMAO you cant trigger crystallize on the geo hypostasis either
nor on geo mitachurls
which means there's a type of geo aura present in
1. zl petrified status
2. geo hypostasis
3. geo slime shield
4. geo mitachurl
that are all inert
1. zl petrified status
2. geo hypostasis
3. geo slime shield
4. geo mitachurl
that are all inert
but still are visible thru elemental sight
this also goes against how i heard hypostases applying their own elements to themselves
so
1. normal geo attacks (from characters and enemies) can apply geo, but not a geo aura
2. geo aura exists on some enemies + zl petrified, but they are all inert
1. normal geo attacks (from characters and enemies) can apply geo, but not a geo aura
2. geo aura exists on some enemies + zl petrified, but they are all inert
i'm sure these are things that should already be known, i cant be the first one to have noticed
4Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingSat, August 6, 2022 at 07:57 PM
could you upload this to youtube?
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Geo Aura investigation by @Mr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingMr. Pillow | PhD. in IttoSimpingSun, August 7, 2022 at 04:36 PM
since they seem to be inactive recently, i uploaded their video on my channel: https://youtu.be/5kOcGatrkMo
The write-up is pinned. I'm unsure if all of what I've written is correct so I don't mind feedback.
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