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TiBotFri, November 18, 2022 at 10:00 AM
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🐟Fri, November 18, 2022 at 10:00 AM
Layla Basic Mechanics Ticket
Put all mechanics findings for Layla here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.

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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:

Finding:

Evidence:

Significance:
Some stuff that needs testing:
Particle generation
ICD
Does anything snapshot (skill/burst stars etc) :QiqiPeek:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, November 18, 2022 at 10:42 AM
Gauges too
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emmausFri, November 18, 2022 at 06:12 PM
Finding : Layla Cast E and Stars are 1GU. ICD is seperate. E star icd is once per volley
Evidence: https://youtu.be/BNnhq9Z2BPM
Significance: Layla kit
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Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyFri, November 18, 2022 at 06:22 PM
Finding: Layla's snapshotting properties
E: Each individual Shooting Star snapshots when it launches.
Q: Snapshots when the Celestial Dreamsphere is created.

Evidence: https://youtu.be/ESqDyFZi50A
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emmausFri, November 18, 2022 at 06:45 PM
Finding : If Layla cast her E while there is a Curtain of Slumber active, either from CD reduction or reset, the new shield won't reset the stars gained, but extend it
Evidence: https://youtu.be/tTY8FMSF9CU
Significance: Layla kit
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Reply to Avatar emmaus: Finding : If Layla cast her E while there is a Curtain of Slumber active, either from CD reduction or reset, the new shield won't reset the stars gained, but extend it
mustproceedquicklySat, November 19, 2022 at 12:47 AM
Can you check if refreshing the shield keeps her A1 shield strength buff or does it reset? I assume it keeps it.
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Reply to Avatar mustproceedquickly: Can you check if refreshing the shield keeps her A1 shield strength buff or does it reset? I assume it keeps it.
never2bigSat, November 19, 2022 at 08:04 AM
it does as long as you have the stars at least
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zakharov29229Sat, November 19, 2022 at 09:50 AM
Finding: Layla has a 30% chance of making 2 particles per proc, and a 70% chance of making 1 particle (based on 71 procs). More testing would be useful to determine if it's actually 33.333%
Evidence: https://youtu.be/GVEUqNpfECE
Significance: Particle counts
Layla particles
50 x 1 particle
21 x 2 particles
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Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademySat, November 19, 2022 at 10:34 AM
Finding: Layla's Stars have ICD of 3 seconds. Hit counter, if any, is greater than 6.

Evidence: https://youtu.be/038qa5MFAOY
Finding: Layla's Burst is 1U and has default ICD.

Evidence: https://youtu.be/4opnHeQhk08
Finding: certain characters, if used correctly, can "use" an Elemental skill twice so that Layla generates extra Night Stars.

Yelan: releasing E after holding it is considered as elemental skill use.
Sayu: pressing E again after holding it.
Tartaglia: manually exiting from melee stance.
Fischl: repositioning Oz.
Mona: E can be cancelled but still be considered as skill use.

Skills that do not have extra skill uses: parries (Beidou, Yunjin, Candace), Nahida hold E, Anemo MC hold E.

Evidence: playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw9iv6ZYLIFlB6iw3MUhzWqT59k64aED_

Significance: much easier time generating 3 or 4 volleys of Layla's Stars using certain characters.
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emmausSat, November 19, 2022 at 08:33 PM
Finding: Layla stars, both from shield and burst will always target the nearest entity. if they start shooting and you move out of range of a target, remaining stars will fly to the last target that was in range
Evidence:https://youtu.be/Q_s-hnclMcw
https://youtu.be/89ctFX451gA
https://youtu.be/anzeKMQ-JLo
Significance: Layla Targeting
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Reply to Avatar Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin Academy: Finding: certain characters, if used correctly, can "use" an Elemental skill twice so that Layla generates extra Night Stars.
char11Sun, November 20, 2022 at 08:48 AM
Finding: To expand on this, keqing's elemental skill also counts twice when the double tap version is used, but the charged attack version only counts once
It seems that Layla's shield gains stars on the actual action of pressing the E button
It is also possible to throw out keqing's stiletto first, then switch to cast layla's E, then switch back to recast keqing's skill for 1 count of elemental skill

Evidence: https://youtu.be/4kaLn4Rln6M

Significance: Better understanding of layla star generation
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kolibri._.Sun, November 20, 2022 at 07:06 PM
Finding: Layla frame counts
Evidence: https://youtu.be/p2XLIrIddiQ
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ZO_rbo6V2n-yWVjM8LqN1lGT2aKoQCbdjB_RX__InY/edit?usp=sharing
Significance: TCL stuff
Layla - frames
0:00 NA String - hitmark
0:08 CA - hitmark

0:17 E Initial - hitmark
0:24 E Shooting Star - hitmark

0:55 Q - hitmark

1:43 NA String (including N3 ➔ N1)

1:56 N1 ➔ CA
2:05 N1 ➔ Walk

2:13 N2 ➔ CA
2:25 N2 ➔ Walk

2:36 N3 ➔ Walk

2:49 CA ➔ N1
3:00 CA ➔ E
3:10 CA ➔ Q
3:20 CA ➔ D
3:32 CA ➔ J
3:42 CA ➔ Walk
3:53 CA ➔ Swap

4:03 E ➔ N1
4:09 E ...
Layla Frames
Attacks

Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial 3
Hitmarks,N1,13,13,13,hitlag,stuff with hitlag:
- Frames it takes to go from "Start of Animation of the action/Hitlag end of previous hit for multihits" to "Hitlag start" (1 frame after the char is frozen)

stuff without hitlag:
- Frames it takes to go from "Start ...
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pweepThu, December 8, 2022 at 04:49 AM
finding: the shield strength from layla a1 transfers to the character on-field
evidence: https://youtu.be/EtaiPudAXHg
significance: shield strong
credit to Chronopolize#6513
finding: layla's a1 and her shooting stars doesn't reset when you refresh her shield
evidence: https://youtu.be/e-nc1exfRIU
significance: shield strong
credit to Chronopolize#6513
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Reply to Avatar emmaus: Finding : If Layla cast her E while there is a Curtain of Slumber active, either from CD reduction or reset, the new shield won't reset the stars gained, but extend it
emmausThu, December 8, 2022 at 10:40 AM
@pweep
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, December 8, 2022 at 10:58 AM
I knew I forgot something :ohno: @pweep can you redo the vid but this time check the shield strength stats too to actually see if her A1 persists after shield refresh or not.
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Reply to Avatar ( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: I knew I forgot something :ohno: @pweep can you redo the vid but this time check the shield strength stats too to actually see if her A1 persists after shield refresh or not.
pweepSat, December 10, 2022 at 11:44 AM
finding: layla's a1 passive (shield strength) doesn't reset even if her shield resets
evidence: https://youtu.be/ReuurbVWizY
significance: shield strong
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