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neuvillette-basic-mechanics
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TiBotWed, September 27, 2023 at 02:13 AM
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Neuvilette Basic Mechanics Ticket
Put all mechanics findings for Neuvilette here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.
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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:
Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics
Put all mechanics findings for Neuvilette here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.
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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:
Finding:
Evidence:
Significance:Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics
chronopolizeWed, September 27, 2023 at 03:09 AM
Finding: Neuv moves at 100% jogging speed while charging/firing his CA. He has tall male movement speed as well as no movement penalty. *His firing speed might be slower than his charging speed (needs testing)
Evidence::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prWlZPU6GfI
Recorded 13.88 seconds to jog across mondstad bridge, and 13.7 seconds while using CA. Compare to CA ganyu taking 24.3 second.
Significance: More viable for c0 Neuvillete to dodge enemy attacks and play without shielder. While getting interruption IS very costly, his movement speed is much different than Ganyu.
Evidence::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prWlZPU6GfI
Recorded 13.88 seconds to jog across mondstad bridge, and 13.7 seconds while using CA. Compare to CA ganyu taking 24.3 second.
Significance: More viable for c0 Neuvillete to dodge enemy attacks and play without shielder. While getting interruption IS very costly, his movement speed is much different than Ganyu.
lunaflawWed, September 27, 2023 at 04:23 AM
Finding: charged CA has Standard ICD - 8 hits in 3s applying Hydro 4 times
3 with hit rule and 1 with time rule
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfBHzT5XpI
Significance: ICD
3 with hit rule and 1 with time rule
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfBHzT5XpI
Significance: ICD
Finding: you can cancel your CA with E/Q
- not while charging, but when already attacking
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZEGMwH7Nlk
Significance: Skill mechanics
- not while charging, but when already attacking
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZEGMwH7Nlk
Significance: Skill mechanics
Neuvillette - Cancel CA with E
You can't cancel the charging animation with E,
but can cancel while it's already charged and attacking
but can cancel while it's already charged and attacking
lunaflawWed, September 27, 2023 at 04:31 AM
with dashes and jumps as well
Finding: you can go up slopes while charging/doing CAs. It can get buggy with abrupt height changes
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8J1P0zWDU
Significance: weeeeeee
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8J1P0zWDU
Significance: weeeeeee
TamaWed, September 27, 2023 at 01:41 PM
Bobrokrot [RU] Genshin AcademyThu, September 28, 2023 at 04:51 PM
Finding: You can shorten start-up animation of Neuvilette's CA by releasing the button at the right time.
Evidence: with a visual guide and rotation length comparison
https://youtu.be/xIGmCVjrUt0
Significance: a significant dps increase with a relatively easy execution.
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Evidence: with a visual guide and rotation length comparison
https://youtu.be/xIGmCVjrUt0
Significance: a significant dps increase with a relatively easy execution.
Neuvillette Animation cancel guide | Genshin Impact
Смотрите полный гайд на Нёвиллета на русском языке: https://youtu.be/eTydn3C4ZT4
Основной канал: https://www.youtube.com/c/GenshinAcademy
Группа ВК: https://vk.com/genshinacademy
Telegram: https://t.me/genshin_academy
HoYoLAB: https://www.hoyolab.com/accountCenter/postList?id=37721496
Основной канал: https://www.youtube.com/c/GenshinAcademy
Группа ВК: https://vk.com/genshinacademy
Telegram: https://t.me/genshin_academy
HoYoLAB: https://www.hoyolab.com/accountCenter/postList?id=37721496
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fire bottle apex human strengthFri, September 29, 2023 at 04:40 PM
Finding: Neuvillette himself is qualified for gaining stack in passive "Heir to the Ancient Sea's Authority", in single player mode.
Evidence:
- A visual effect above active character head indicate how many stack the passive currently has, appear every time player switch into Neuvillette.
- A visual effect above active character when Neuvillette gain a new stack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHFEFdFnH-U
Significance: specific team building against slimes (elemental being), shield, aura,...
Evidence:
- A visual effect above active character head indicate how many stack the passive currently has, appear every time player switch into Neuvillette.
- A visual effect above active character when Neuvillette gain a new stack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHFEFdFnH-U
Significance: specific team building against slimes (elemental being), shield, aura,...
Finding: Neuvillette passive "Heir to the Ancient Sea's Authority" existing stack refresh its duration when the same type reaction is triggered
Evidence:
Neuvillette start with 0 stack. At 00:22 Fischl earn "Electro-charged"-type stack for him. It is determined to expire at 00:52. But at 00:46 Neuvillette earn himself "Electro-charged"-type stack, so it refresh and expire after 01:16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOxJjnOsSLA
Significance: rotation building
Evidence:
Neuvillette start with 0 stack. At 00:22 Fischl earn "Electro-charged"-type stack for him. It is determined to expire at 00:52. But at 00:46 Neuvillette earn himself "Electro-charged"-type stack, so it refresh and expire after 01:16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOxJjnOsSLA
Significance: rotation building
Not CynSat, September 30, 2023 at 02:08 AM
Finding: Neuv's rain idle applies a hydro aura to himself (seems to be very small, like .5u as it wears off very quickly once he leaves idle)
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nAIX5tS47M
Significance: funny
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Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nAIX5tS47M
Significance: funny
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the humble mold spore🦠Mon, October 2, 2023 at 03:05 PM
finding: neuvillette frames
evidence:
sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-gPxRq_NX8hBXLijRYroabSgT85S0ND6WiFLjwc2b_k/edit
recording: https://youtu.be/I4nCOk2g17o?feature=shared
significance: tcl2
evidence:
sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-gPxRq_NX8hBXLijRYroabSgT85S0ND6WiFLjwc2b_k/edit
recording: https://youtu.be/I4nCOk2g17o?feature=shared
significance: tcl
Neuvillette Frames
Normal Attacks
Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial 3,Trial 4,Trial 5
Hitmarks,N1,14,19,19,19,18,no hitlag,(following N3) N1 starts when cane moves
N2,16,16,16,16,16,no hitlag,N2 starts when he steps forward
N3,32,31,32,31,x,no hitlag,N3 starts when he changes his hold on the cane
N1,N2,21,29,28,29,29,taken fr...
Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial 3,Trial 4,Trial 5
Hitmarks,N1,14,19,19,19,18,no hitlag,(following N3) N1 starts when cane moves
N2,16,16,16,16,16,no hitlag,N2 starts when he steps forward
N3,32,31,32,31,x,no hitlag,N3 starts when he changes his hold on the cane
N1,N2,21,29,28,29,29,taken fr...
Neuvilette frames
0:00 NA String - hitmark
0:13 CA - hitmark
0:29 E - hitmark and CA judgement - hitmark
1:27 Q - hitmark
1:39 N1 ➔ CA
2:00 N1 ➔ Walk
2:22 N2 ➔ CA
2:43 N2 ➔ Walk
3:14 N3 ➔ CA
3:37 N3 ➔ Walk
4:02 CA short ➔ N1
4:22 CA short ➔ CA
4:42 CA short ➔ E
5:00 CA short ➔ Q
5:25 CA short ➔ D
5:44 CA short ➔ J
5:59 CA short ➔ Walk
6:18 CA judgement ➔ N...
0:13 CA - hitmark
0:29 E - hitmark and CA judgement - hitmark
1:27 Q - hitmark
1:39 N1 ➔ CA
2:00 N1 ➔ Walk
2:22 N2 ➔ CA
2:43 N2 ➔ Walk
3:14 N3 ➔ CA
3:37 N3 ➔ Walk
4:02 CA short ➔ N1
4:22 CA short ➔ CA
4:42 CA short ➔ E
5:00 CA short ➔ Q
5:25 CA short ➔ D
5:44 CA short ➔ J
5:59 CA short ➔ Walk
6:18 CA judgement ➔ N...
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f99shiThu, October 5, 2023 at 12:16 AM
finding: neuv C4 works with overhealing
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/yT63lP4
significance: clarify wording
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/yT63lP4
significance: clarify wording
finding: C6 neuvillette sometimes leaves a ghost ball on the ground that cant be interacted with. the ball gets absorbed and extends the CA duration but fails to disappear properly so it doesnt really affect gameplay aside from jebaiting you. its extremely inconsistent and i have no idea how or why it happens
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/l0GgCkW
significance: 🍝
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evidence: https://imgur.com/a/l0GgCkW
significance: 🍝
6finding: neuv A1 only counts reactions procced on an enemy. reactions on gadgets, weapons, monster weapons, and self dont count
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/7JJK820 (the 1 stack indicator is from c1 so no stacks gained)
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/7JJK820 (the 1 stack indicator is from c1 so no stacks gained)
finding: neuvillette can dragonstrike off of his spiritbreath thorn, because spiritbreath thorn has hitlag
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/wBABDg6
significance: the dragon can strike
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evidence: https://imgur.com/a/wBABDg6
significance: the dragon can strike
12the humble mold spore🦠Fri, October 6, 2023 at 12:25 PM
finding: neuvis range for absorbing droplets in front of him is the same as the range of his ca (marked with a blue line) his absorption range behind him is approx. half of the range infront of him
evidence: https://youtu.be/1Ip1oTH8Wmc?feature=shared
significant: positioning matters for spin2win
evidence: https://youtu.be/1Ip1oTH8Wmc?feature=shared
significant: positioning matters for spin2win
Shampoo | burger enthusiastFri, October 6, 2023 at 10:46 PM
Finding: Neuvillette can create a maximum of 12 Sourcewater Droplets at a time
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfh5JF8LMBk (Tested using Sac Frags and 4TF)
Significance:
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfh5JF8LMBk (Tested using Sac Frags and 4TF)
Significance:
the humble mold spore🦠Fri, October 6, 2023 at 11:12 PM
finding: neuvis sourcewater droplets remain onfield after he dies
evidence: https://youtu.be/0AWTPjdN0d8?feature=shared
significance:5
evidence: https://youtu.be/0AWTPjdN0d8?feature=shared
significance:
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lin // play ffxx :ratpoint:Sat, October 7, 2023 at 03:09 AM
Finding:
- You only see your own Sourcewater Droplets in Co-Op. This means that your Neuvillette cannot interact with any Sourcewater Droplets formed by your co-op partner
- Anemo characters with CC abilities can interact with Sourcewater Droplets dropped by other party's Neuvillette in co-op, even though the Droplets are not visible
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/g44PfHWYdz8?si=33tQkZvGMiUj4929
Significance:
Co-op interaction
(Please credit @186321580777930752 as well
)
- You only see your own Sourcewater Droplets in Co-Op. This means that your Neuvillette cannot interact with any Sourcewater Droplets formed by your co-op partner
- Anemo characters with CC abilities can interact with Sourcewater Droplets dropped by other party's Neuvillette in co-op, even though the Droplets are not visible
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/g44PfHWYdz8?si=33tQkZvGMiUj4929
Significance:
Co-op interaction
(Please credit @186321580777930752 as well
)balls in coop shenanigans
nvl is an honest dragon he does not steal balls but he lets other characters play with his
Finding:
Interaction between Neuvillette's Sourcewater Droplets and Anemo characters that can CC
- Kazuha: Can pull with E
- Jean: Can pull, but not yeet, with hE
- Faruzan: Can pull with Pressurized Collapse (E CA)
- Sucrose: Can pull with E. Only initial Q hit pulls
- Heizou: Can pull with Q
- Lynette: C1 vortex can pull
- AMC: hE and Q both pull
- Venti: No
- (Bonus) Viridescent Hunt: No
Evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3hl4HSilIU
Significance:
Venti never succs
(Please credit @186321580777930752 as well )
Interaction between Neuvillette's Sourcewater Droplets and Anemo characters that can CC
- Kazuha: Can pull with E
- Jean: Can pull, but not yeet, with hE
- Faruzan: Can pull with Pressurized Collapse (E CA)
- Sucrose: Can pull with E. Only initial Q hit pulls
- Heizou: Can pull with Q
- Lynette: C1 vortex can pull
- AMC: hE and Q both pull
- Venti: No
- (Bonus) Viridescent Hunt: No
Evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3hl4HSilIU
Significance:
Venti never succs
(Please credit @186321580777930752 as well
)f99shiSun, October 15, 2023 at 01:59 AM
Finding: teammates proccing reactions from off field still triggers neuv a1
Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/yhCxaI1
Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/yhCxaI1
niku_ouWed, October 18, 2023 at 07:11 PM
Finding: Neuvilette can't plunge during his Special CA
Evidence:https://youtu.be/XKaglb8YrRc
Significance: Tall Male Hydro=Can't Plunge=Funni
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Evidence:https://youtu.be/XKaglb8YrRc
Significance: Tall Male Hydro=Can't Plunge=Funni
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Akira | Neuv/Ayaka EnjoyerFri, October 20, 2023 at 12:59 AM
Finding:
- A shielded Neuvilette water beam doesn't get cancelled immediately by getting frozen. Unless it is a whopper flower who does it.
- The charge bar can still be consumed and charged while being frozen, but only for a short time.
- In the right timing, neuv can still shoot his beam while being frozen
- While frozen, you can still control where he is looking (third clip)
^Only seen with a shield. Otherwise, neuv's CA gets staggered immediately.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/wPHUhOOa-EM
Significance: Frozen bad.
- A shielded Neuvilette water beam doesn't get cancelled immediately by getting frozen. Unless it is a whopper flower who does it.
- The charge bar can still be consumed and charged while being frozen, but only for a short time.
- In the right timing, neuv can still shoot his beam while being frozen
- While frozen, you can still control where he is looking (third clip)
^Only seen with a shield. Otherwise, neuv's CA gets staggered immediately.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/wPHUhOOa-EM
Significance: Frozen bad.
rarepossumFri, October 20, 2023 at 02:05 AM
Upload the video to youtube. The channel will get deleted in a few weeks deleting the video too
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the humble mold spore🦠Thu, November 2, 2023 at 06:46 PM
finding: the above also works without a shield
evidence:
https://youtu.be/JIjnKC14Gd4?feature=shared
finding: it also works when frozen by a whopperflower
evidence:
https://youtu.be/ZU6g-ZKlgFE?feature=shared
significance: frozen slightly less bad
evidence:
https://youtu.be/JIjnKC14Gd4?feature=shared
finding: it also works when frozen by a whopperflower
evidence:
https://youtu.be/ZU6g-ZKlgFE?feature=shared
significance: frozen slightly less bad
finding: droplets generated by neuvis burst will always spawn a distance away in front of him, at the same elevation as he is. as a result they can go out of bounds and hover mid air
evidence:
https://youtu.be/v8I9i1FTbZc?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/2MRZ7qpKpg4?feature=shared
significant: flying balls, invisible balls
evidence:
https://youtu.be/v8I9i1FTbZc?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/2MRZ7qpKpg4?feature=shared
significant: flying balls, invisible balls
finding: neuvi can travel over some areas of water during his ca. he can go down slopes like on land, but not up
evidence: https://youtu.be/fDuhYVHHj5k?feature=shared
significance: walks on water (sometimes)
evidence: https://youtu.be/fDuhYVHHj5k?feature=shared
significance: walks on water (sometimes)
finding: neuvi can still enter his ca charging state when out of stamina. if the charging is cancelled early he will only do a regular ca if he has enough stamina, otherwise no attack will happen. neuvi recovers stamina when in his charging state.
evidence: https://youtu.be/RXoplPLaTSw?feature=shared
significance: stamina management
evidence: https://youtu.be/RXoplPLaTSw?feature=shared
significance: stamina management
jamberry since yall r confusedFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:49 PM
rarepossumFri, May 10, 2024 at 01:12 PM
I used to be correct
jamberry since yall r confusedFri, May 10, 2024 at 01:28 PM
I'm working on it 
why don't you go get Xianyun ICD or smth helpful then Mr. Sniffa
why don't you go get Xianyun ICD or smth helpful then Mr. SniffararepossumFri, May 10, 2024 at 01:47 PM
I uninstalled
jamberry since yall r confusedThu, May 16, 2024 at 05:51 PM
still need:
snapshot (CA in particular, but if someone wants to test if/when in animation burst snaps knock urself out)
snapshot (CA in particular, but if someone wants to test if/when in animation burst snaps knock urself out)
clever ishThu, May 16, 2024 at 05:57 PM
finding: neuvillette's skill generates 4 particles
evidence: https://youtu.be/dCPJqVn0hFw?si=ih83k5K2xringWJG
significance: mmm energy
evidence: https://youtu.be/dCPJqVn0hFw?si=ih83k5K2xringWJG
significance: mmm energy
derpyfrojjieThu, May 16, 2024 at 06:01 PM
How does one fond gauge
jamberry since yall r confusedThu, May 16, 2024 at 06:06 PM
show gauge damage to a shield, show time for hydro aura to expire after applied to an enemy w no aura
derpyfrojjieThu, May 16, 2024 at 06:07 PM
I shall try later
haafrThu, May 16, 2024 at 06:10 PM
go hit pyro hypo shield
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derpyfrojjieThu, May 16, 2024 at 07:24 PM
do you guys eyeball the gauge depletion on the pyro shield 
haafrThu, May 16, 2024 at 07:29 PM
yes
derpyfrojjieThu, May 16, 2024 at 07:29 PM
charliex3000Thu, May 16, 2024 at 08:10 PM
You can count the pixels if you want
derpyfrojjieThu, May 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM
Findings: Gauge units for N1, both CAs, E, and Q
Significance: Gauge info
Notes: Did not test full NA string; did not specfically check ICDs; assumed standard ICD for burst and special CA
- N1: 1UEvidence: https://youtu.be/vMQeEzFM_Sk?si=OB5eSc-oeRKeFL2A
- CA: 1U
- CA Equitable Judgement: 1U
- E: 1U
- Q: 1U
Significance: Gauge info
Notes: Did not test full NA string; did not specfically check ICDs; assumed standard ICD for burst and special CA
if I did anything wrong, I can redo 
Wait, is Genshin impact wiki is fine to reference for pyro hypostasis shield info/gauge units necessary to break
jamberry since yall r confusedThu, May 16, 2024 at 11:42 PM
ur good1
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ham2105Sat, May 18, 2024 at 11:34 PM
finding: Neuvillette's Charged Attack: Equitable Judgement does not snapshot
evidence: https://youtu.be/6yxk6y3d_nw?si=mjXtkIxCT807UC0A
significance: snapshot mechanics
evidence: https://youtu.be/6yxk6y3d_nw?si=mjXtkIxCT807UC0A
significance: snapshot mechanics
bowtaeMon, May 27, 2024 at 01:18 AM
working on pr
TiBotMon, May 27, 2024 at 03:44 AM
Creating transcript...