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pma-minions-and-kill-trigger-interactions
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TiBotThu, July 28, 2022 at 01:33 AM
@Rainfury | My game is still v3.0 - As an author, it is your responsibility to complete the ticket

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Rainfury | My game is still v3.0Thu, July 28, 2022 at 01:34 AM
Didn't see this in the TCL and someone asked about it, so I did testing 🐒
finding : PMA minions don't count to blackcliff stacks at all

Evidence : https://youtu.be/fV-S10yIJbY https://youtu.be/NaI1UQU4cko

Significance : Blackcliff is as cope as we thought
Ima do testing with Kaeya C2 so see if it procs
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TiBotThu, July 28, 2022 at 01:49 AM
This ticket has been renamed to PMA minions and kill trigger interactions by @Rainfury | My game is still v3.0
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Rainfury | My game is still v3.0Thu, July 28, 2022 at 01:53 AM
https://youtu.be/81jWQ9QcVzY

Kaeya burst starts at 0:03, ends at 0:11. which means the 2.5seconds extension did not proc
I'll just assume everything works the same 🐒
Finding : defeating PMA minions won't proc any kill-based effects, similar to specters

Blackcliff : the ATK for all three test stayed 2916 after defeating minions
Kaeya C2 : (test 3), starts at 0:03, ends at 0:11, which means the 2.5 second extension for defeating one enemy did not proc

https://youtu.be/fV-S10yIJbY
https://youtu.be/NaI1UQU4cko
https://youtu.be/81jWQ9QcVzY

Proof it's not just ruin minions in general
https://youtu.be/yiLsfBxkjYY
Blackcliff does proc
kaeya Q at 0:02, about 2.5sec pause from opening char screen, expires at 0:15
So, overall it lasted 10.5seconds, which means C2 proc'd

Significant :
PMA is a very annoying enemy, literally the predecessor of specters
Helpful for peeps to stop coping with blackcliff when tryingto do PMA nukes 🐒
I'll go test a bit more, to check if ruin minions in general proc blackcliff and kaeya C2, as well as some other weps
https://youtu.be/yiLsfBxkjYY
Blackcliff does proc
kaeya at 0:02, about 2.5sec pause from opening char screen, expires at 0:15
So, overall it lasted 10.5seconds, which means C2 proc'd
that should be good enough to get a general conclusion... If anyone wanna help test other weps, go ahead
:artesians:
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anju06Thu, July 28, 2022 at 03:04 AM
Might as well test with Recurve Bow and White Iron Greatsword
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TiBotThu, August 4, 2022 at 03:15 AM
:dinkdonk: This channel hasn't been active in the past week!
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effab1eSat, August 6, 2022 at 07:03 AM
@Rainfury | My game is still v3.0 is ticket done or deadge or you need more testing
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Reply to Avatar Rainfury | My game is still v3.0: that should be good enough to get a general conclusion... If anyone wanna help test other weps, go ahead
Rainfury | My game is still v3.0Sat, August 6, 2022 at 07:03 AM
@effab1e
just kinda lazy to test
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Reply to Avatar Rainfury | My game is still v3.0: https://library.keqingmains.com/evidence/combat-mechanics/enemy-mechanics/enemy-interactions#specter
Rainfury | My game is still v3.0Sat, August 6, 2022 at 07:03 AM
this one has everything we should test
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effab1eSat, August 6, 2022 at 07:06 AM
so are you going to test the other stuff or
bc evidence
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Reply to Avatar Rainfury | My game is still v3.0: just kinda lazy to test
Rainfury | My game is still v3.0Sat, August 6, 2022 at 10:12 AM
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if someone else does it, then good
if not, I'll get to it... one day 🐒
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omglolzSat, August 6, 2022 at 11:30 AM
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Rainfury | My game is still v3.0Sun, August 7, 2022 at 08:00 AM
:love:
Finding : defeating PMA minions won't proc any kill-based effects, similar to specters

1) Blackcliff : the ATK for all three test stayed 2916 after defeating minions
https://youtu.be/fV-S10yIJbY
https://youtu.be/NaI1UQU4cko

2) Kaeya C2 : starts at 0:03, ends at 0:11, which means the 2.5 second extension for defeating one enemy did not proc
https://youtu.be/81jWQ9QcVzY

3) 4pc Bloodstained : no stamina for charged attacks passive does not proc
https://youtu.be/wYkSylczVYg

4) White Iron greatsword : healing passive doesn't proc
https://youtu.be/XJQ-oRK23gs

5) twin nephite : no indicator for speedboost and ATK stayed 626 before and after kill
https://youtu.be/S0ymGDWpK8A

Proof it's not just ruin minions in general
https://youtu.be/yiLsfBxkjYY
Blackcliff does proc
kaeya Q at 0:02, about 2.5sec pause from opening char screen, expires at 0:15
So, overall it lasted 10.5seconds, which means C2 proc'd

Significant :
PMA is a very annoying enemy, literally the predecessor of specters
Helpful for peeps to stop coping with blackcliff when tryingto do PMA nukes 🐒
Kinda lazy to test AMC :keqhmm:
Ima just submit it for now
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TiBotSun, August 7, 2022 at 08:35 AM
Ticket closed by @Rainfury | My game is still v3.0. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.
Ticket verified by @effab1e
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effab1eSun, August 7, 2022 at 11:07 AM
finally sufficient evidence :pepela:
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TiBotSat, August 20, 2022 at 09:10 AM
Ticket verified by @eriri🌸
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