potential-characters-buff-and-debuff-staying-after-swapped-out-of-the-party

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usernameMon, November 7, 2022 at 02:48 AM

Finding: Heizou’s A4 buff does not persist after leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/dDsJ5WYY6Ww
Significance: Heizou cannot be used stack EM buffs for damage showcases where he leaves the party.

might try lisa

daibangdenMon, November 7, 2022 at 02:50 AM

wasn't there already a ticket like this for like, all the buffs instead of just one?

@nzpieface opinion?

freenekMon, November 7, 2022 at 03:44 AM

I think there was ticket on #theory-hunt

and it was done by someone else

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaMon, November 7, 2022 at 04:06 AM

it was me

I'll send the whole list later

TamayaMon, November 7, 2022 at 04:26 AM

Reply to

daibangden: wasn't there already a ticket like this for like, all the buffs instead of just one?

nzpiefaceMon, November 7, 2022 at 05:07 AM

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaMon, November 7, 2022 at 07:16 AM

transcript of the previous ticket: https://tickets.deeznuts.moe/transcripts/th-potential-character-buffs-and-debuffs-staying-after-swapped-out-of-party

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Requirement:
Have one of the following:
- Amber C6: https://youtu.be/5DoqGJPObbE [Soul Fish#8421]
- AMC C6: https://youtu.be/Fb0uzM2hs6A [Astro_#4044]
- Albedo A4: https://youtu.be/yu2uQu8MAOY [Casdela#5121]
- Aloy E: https://youtu.be/VCo9R5cxl4I [Soul Fish#8421]
- Aloy A1: https://youtu.be/7riZTbXhVGA [Casdela#5121]
- Ayaka C4: https://youtu.be/nh-xasp4aKc (doesn't stay) [Yukie#7916]
- Ayato C4: https://youtu.be/MC94AIReK0s [Cush#2051]
- Chongyun A4: https://youtu.be/J_yd5NPAyT0 [Soul Fish#8421]
- Collei C4: https://youtu.be/CtqYGZziTEM [Astro_#4044]
- Diona A4: https://youtu.be/tx58qJBY3HM [Soul Fish#8421]
- EMC E: https://youtu.be/4_Vo2HYCCC0 [Soul Fish#8421]
- EMC C2: https://youtu.be/2LT8aWxgcXg [Soul Fish#8421, Yukie#7916]
- Eula E: https://youtu.be/WpCGZXTTAoY [Astro_#4044]
- Faruzan Q: in sheet
- Ganyu C1: https://youtu.be/7FGZh8Mdekw [Astro_#4044]
- Ganyu C4: https://youtu.be/FFHNdF2BbK4 [Astro_#4044]
- Gorou A1: https://youtu.be/j956MWcwS6Q (doesn't stay) [Casdela#5121]
- Gorou C6: https://youtu.be/QSNZPlC1dUM (doesn't stay) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Heizou A4: https://youtu.be/dDsJ5WYY6Ww (doesn't stay) [username#5125]
- Hu Tao A1, C4: https://youtu.be/82haRiYsrsU [Soul Fish#8421]
- Itto C4: https://youtu.be/7j2oPN8FFH4 (doesn't stay) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Jean C2: https://youtu.be/nWTMPILIYYw [Casdela#5121]
- Jean C6: https://youtu.be/a1PG2nH2Hbk [Soul Fish#8421]
- Kazuha A4: https://youtu.be/5we0ukdQtvQ [Casdela#5121]
- Klee C2: https://youtu.be/0i8mf5_uEA8 [Soul Fish#8421]
- Klee C6: https://youtu.be/-eeRz-faaDU [290594914104770561]
- Lisa A4: https://youtu.be/Gth938709rI [Soul Fish#8421]
- Mona Q: https://youtu.be/kHK8saJiqAo (kind of works) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Mona C1: https://youtu.be/hUzY2j4ovzw (abyss test) (yesn't) [Soul Fish#8421],
https://youtu.be/k9WT9GuQAco (over world) (yesn't) [Soul Fish#8421]

- Nahida C2: https://youtu.be/75YMED6MAC8 [Soul Fish#8421, Yukie#7916]
- Nilou A1: https://youtu.be/kp10YXKe9oE [Soul Fish#8421]
- Nilou C2: https://youtu.be/HN-dFPaWsOw [Soul Fish#8421]
- Ningguang A4: https://youtu.be/MY7c1Vt467g [Casdela#5121]
- Raiden C4: https://youtu.be/uLJokgKB4T8 (doesn't stay) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Razor C4: https://youtu.be/xwwlOSoBkbo [Astro_#4044]
- Rosaria A4: https://youtu.be/XGZ2HIIe5_o [Casdela#5121]
- Rosaria C6: https://youtu.be/cCgNReUaBzM [Soul Fish#8421]
- Sara E: https://youtu.be/3CrA0Uvl-NI (doesn't stay) [Casdela#5121]
- Shenhe A4: https://youtu.be/xirdaG7Y7Fo (doesn't stay) [Casdela#5121]
- Sucrose A1, A4 and C6: https://youtu.be/3oDE_nYJots [Casdela#5121]
- Thoma A1: https://youtu.be/oNSM9nGtZVU [Soul Fish#8421]
- Thoma C6: https://youtu.be/vphQvlsuxzs (doesn't stay) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Tignari C4: https://youtu.be/PDcoJOgDcFM [iris#2222]
- Venti C2: https://youtu.be/O6MY3EDTuF4 [Soul Fish#8421]
- Venti C6: https://youtu.be/fBiU_jEZv08 [username#5125, Nociii#0111]
- Xiangling A4: https://youtu.be/M2Fj33SJ3Vc [Soul Fish#8421]
- Xiangling C1: https://youtu.be/7CHtXwisbB8 [Soul Fish#8421]
- Xinqiu C2: https://youtu.be/48IOmCb0v18 [Astro_#4044]
- Xinyan C4: https://youtu.be/YieNHvZ__Gs [Astro_#4044]
- Yae Miko C4: https://youtu.be/HkGukNU_EfQ [Soul Fish#8421]
- Yelan C4: https://youtu.be/yCfFHulBGI4 (doesn't stay) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Yoimiya A4: https://youtu.be/btF6t--cuqw [Soul Fish#8421]
- Yunjin C2: https://youtu.be/Mv82poqxn7o (doesn't stay) [Soul Fish#8421]
- Any recording software

Entries with youtube links don't need to be tested.

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Guideline:

For single player test:
All buffs can be tested in Single player, for buffs that show in character stats record the following:
- The before stats for all party members, show the skill(s)/con(s) that will be tested
- Apply the buff(s)
- Check all party members stats, then remove the character(s) who applied the buff(s) from party, check all party members stats again to see if the buff(s) presist
Example: https://youtu.be/XGZ2HIIe5_o
For buffs that don't show in characters stats, try to show the buff effect before and after remove buff applier from party.
Example: https://youtu.be/nWTMPILIYYw
Some debuffs with visible debuff arrow can be tested in Single player:
- Show the skill(s)/con(s) that will be tested
- Look for big enemy to more easily observe debuff arrow, apply the debuff (for def, res shred hit it once if you can)
- Teleport away, then teleport somewhere closer that you can observe the debuff arrow (only for deployable skills that deals continuous or delayed dmg)
- Try to see if the debuff arrow persist after debuff applier is removed from party (and try to hit it again)
Example: https://youtu.be/ZcZtnbqh6nQ

For Co-op test:
- Wack your test dummy to see the before number
- Co-op partner (or your alt acc) apply the debuff, leave, then the host check if the debuff persist
- Show the skill/con that is tested (ask your friend to put their character in their Showcase)
No example vid cus I have no friends

Remember to name your vid if the buff or debuff stays or not.

Rosaria A4 and Hu Tao A1 Crit rate buff persist after both leave party

Jean C2 Speed buff persist after Jean leaves party

Deepwood Memories RES shred stays after holder leaves party

updated the list with username's vid

Astro | 705193510Mon, November 7, 2022 at 08:46 PM

Finding: Collei C4 EM buff stays after she leaves the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/CtqYGZziTEM

Collei C4 EM buff stays after she leaves the party

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, November 8, 2022 at 02:05 AM

thanks astro

updated

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 04:19 PM

Finding: Hu Tao C4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/82haRiYsrsU
Finding: Yoimiya A4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/btF6t--cuqw
Finding: Nilou C2 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/HN-dFPaWsOw
Finding: Rosaria C6 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/cCgNReUaBzM
Finding: Thoma A1 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/oNSM9nGtZVU
Finding: Lisa A4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Gth938709rI
Finding: Diona A4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/tx58qJBY3HM
Finding: Chongyun A4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/J_yd5NPAyT0
Finding: Xiangling C1 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/7CHtXwisbB8
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Finding: Yun'Jin C2 does not appear to persist after leaving party:
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Mv82poqxn7o
Finding: Thoma C6 does not appear to persist after leaving party:
Evidence: https://youtu.be/14m2h1m0bG0

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 04:21 PM

thanks soul fish

I've added most of the vid except for Thoma C6
@213982977384906755 can you redo the test again?
I counted Amber N1 is fired way past the 6s duration of Thoma's C6 so the buff is probably expired
You can stand closer to the Lawachurl, almost at the edge of the stone ring on the ground before refreshing Thoma shield

for some reason the buff arrow stays for at least 10s after Thoma switches out too but I can't pin point why

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: for some reason the buff arrow stays for at least 10s after Thoma switches out too but I can't pin point why

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 05:25 PM

Might be his A1? I'll redo it though sure

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 05:26 PM

his A1 is also 6s

in this vid I only has his A1 buff but the buff arrow lasts for so long

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: in this vid I only has his A1 buff but the buff arrow lasts for so long

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 05:28 PM

Is that noblesse

Mine is rainbow, but you seems to get a buff on burst cast

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 05:28 PM

oh yeah it's noblesse

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: I've added most of the vid except for Thoma C6

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 06:12 PM

Does this work? https://youtu.be/vphQvlsuxzs

Finding: Yelan C4 does not persist after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/yCfFHulBGI4

Yelan C4 does not persist after leaving party

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 06:29 PM

thanks a lot

added both

Mona C1 is sussy so it will need be tested in a special way, the visual effects of C1 buff seems to also affect party member(s) that are swapped in after Mona leaves party too
It's unclear if the actual buff effect is applied to them or not

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: - Nahida C2: https://youtu.be/75YMED6MAC8 [Soul Fish#8421, Yukie#7916]

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 10, 2022 at 06:47 PM

wait, wasn't there anemo mc c6 on the list before

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 06:49 PM

I removed AMC because my test found that the C6 effect only lasts during tornado

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 10, 2022 at 06:49 PM

ohh

i see

then this video goes into dump

the question is - why than do we have this in the library?

tornado lasts only abt 5-6 secs

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 06:55 PM

It's kinda weird because before 3.1 that's true but I tested it again today and can't seem to see the debuff last longer than the tornado

can you send your vid?
maybe I'm pepega

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 10, 2022 at 06:55 PM

sure

1 sec

Finding: AMC C6 does not persist after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/SatsU1kotm0

still does not persist though

I rechecked rn, it does persist even after the tornado is gone (in case amc is in the party)

Finding: Razor C4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/xwwlOSoBkbo

Razor C4 persists after leaving party

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Astro | 705193510: Finding: AMC C6 does not persist after leaving party

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 07:08 PM

ah I think you use E later than 10s after tornado hits in this vid

maybe you can try again but this time as soon as you press Q exit co-op immediately, after which the other player use E during the 10s window
they can use E before AMC burst to compare the numbers

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 10, 2022 at 07:10 PM

okay

its both me though

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 07:11 PM

I kinda guessed that

added Razor vid

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 07:18 PM

How would you want Mona C1 tested? Maybe a damage test or?

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 10, 2022 at 07:20 PM

Finding: AMC C6 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Fb0uzM2hs6A

AMC C6 persists after leaving party

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: ah I think you use E later than 10s after tornado hits in this vid

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 10, 2022 at 07:21 PM

thanks for the correction abt 10 seconds

love those crits on 5% cr

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🐟: How would you want Mona C1 tested? Maybe a damage test or?

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 07:26 PM

Yeah test dmg of any reaction buffed by Mona C1
I'm thinking Mona Q-> Hit one enemy affected by Omen-> Mona swaps out of party, swaps 2 characters in-> set up reaction with those 2, wait until the buff expires-> redo reaction-> compare numbers
it's easy to do in co-op and a pain to do in single player

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 07:28 PM

~~Your line break broke~~

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 10, 2022 at 07:32 PM

added AMC vid

I'm on mobile rn

can't fix it until I use my laptop

there's a whole section that became italic because of astro's username too
I have no idea how to fix that

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: there's a whole section that became italic because of astro's username too

🐟Thu, November 10, 2022 at 07:37 PM

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TiBotFri, November 11, 2022 at 04:06 AM

This ticket has been renamed to potential-characters-buff-and-debuff-staying-after-swapped-out-of-the-party by @( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela

Astro | 705193510Fri, November 11, 2022 at 09:21 PM

Finding: Xingqiu C2 RES shred persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/48IOmCb0v18

Xingqiu C2 RES shred persists after leaving party

🐟Fri, November 11, 2022 at 11:12 PM

Finding: Yae C4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/HkGukNU_EfQ

Finding: Amber C6 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/5DoqGJPObbE - mspd arrows persist too
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Finding: Raiden C4 does not persist after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/uLJokgKB4T8

~~The whale hunt continues~~ 🎣

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, November 12, 2022 at 12:52 AM

thanks guys, added

Only 10 characters remain

I exceeded word limit but fortunately the list is sandwiched between 2 of my messages that I can use
The final finding will be written in google docs

Astro | 705193510Sat, November 12, 2022 at 09:03 PM

Finding: Xinyan C4 Phys Res Shred persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/YieNHvZ__Gs

Finding: Eula E Phys Res Shred persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/WpCGZXTTAoY

Finding: Ganyu C1 Res Shred persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/7FGZh8Mdekw

I maybe lack whale friends, but I have someone much more rare - a Xinyan+Sara main friend

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 01:04 AM

wow

added

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 05:58 AM

Finding: Itto C4 does not persist upon leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/7j2oPN8FFH4

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 06:36 AM

can Hyv be consistent for once
Hu Tao buff persist but not Itto

added

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 06:41 AM

I'd have said maybe atk/def% buffs don't stay

With Raiden C4, but Amber C6 does stay?

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 06:42 AM

yes it's so inconsistent

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 06:42 AM

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:48 AM

hey @username can you transfer the ticket ownership to me?
I'm gonna handle compiling all the evidences into a final write-up once everything is recorded

usernameSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:49 AM

how do i do that

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:51 AM

I think it's /transferowner

usernameSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:53 AM

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:53 AM

TiBotSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:54 AM

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela transferred ownership of this ticket to @( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela.

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:54 AM

ok lol

usernameSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:54 AM

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:55 AM

sorry for the pong turns out I can do it myself

TiBotSun, November 13, 2022 at 09:55 AM

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela added @username as contributor

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela added @🐟 as contributor

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela added @Astro | 705193510 as contributor

Astro | 705193510Sun, November 13, 2022 at 11:51 AM

Finding: Ganyu C4 persists after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/FFHNdF2BbK4

misono.mikaSun, November 13, 2022 at 11:54 AM

Finding: Ayaka C4 does not Persist after leaving party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/nh-xasp4aKc

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 11:55 AM

Why is mona burst such a pain

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 11:56 AM

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 11:57 AM

Order of operations matters?

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 11:58 AM

what's your current set up for it

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 11:58 AM

Like, it persists... for 1 hit

But if you proc it before Mona leaves it stays a bit longer

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 12:00 PM

hmm this is just for Mona Q right? Not C1

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 12:01 PM

Just Q

I'll upload it in a sec but

Finding: Mona Q persists after leaving co-op (Kind of) - If Omen bubble triggered after Mona leaves, it does not linger

If triggered before exit it will linger

Evidence: https://youtu.be/kHK8saJiqAo

Mona Burst persists upon leaving the party but weirdly

In the first instance, the bubble doesn't even pop it just gone

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 12:16 PM

I'll review and add the vids after a while, I'm currently occupied
with irl stuff

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 12:17 PM

Finding: Mona C1 does not persist upon leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/3C_viipqLcI

2 samples, 1 of each shown above, and 1 with how much it'd actually do normally

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🐟: Finding: Mona C1 does not persist upon leaving the party

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 12:45 PM

... this is why I said hit enemy affected by Omen once before Mona leaves

that's her C1 condition

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: ... this is why I said hit enemy affected by Omen once before Mona leaves

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 12:46 PM

That's what is done in the 2nd part

It has both hit before leave and not, and neither work

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 12:48 PM

have you try being the one hitting?

there is no C1 visual effect on you

which means you didn't get the buff

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 12:51 PM

Mh, alright, give me a sec

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 12:54 PM

if possible test the reaction on the party member that swaps in when Mona leaves

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 12:54 PM

Swap in after she leaves or the one that procs the omen?

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 12:55 PM

after she leaves

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 12:55 PM

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: after she leaves

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 01:06 PM

Finding: Mona C1 still does not work
Evidence: https://youtu.be/AOYZeJ_9DGE

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 01:13 PM

I see, it doesn't apply for co-op party members, only for your own chars

which means painge testing in single player

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 01:14 PM

I'm not sure if you can get it to last long enough solo

It disappears when running away but let me try a thingy I suppose

Okay, this might work

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 01:23 PM

I know for a fact that if Mona burst + hit enemy once right before clearing 1st half abyss, the chars in 2nd will get C1 visual effects
But I have no idea if the buff actually applies to them or not because both my laptop and I are not fast enough to wait for enemy spawn + set up reaction

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 01:29 PM

Mh, 9-2-2 maybe

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: I know for a fact that if Mona burst + hit enemy once right before clearing 1st half abyss, the chars in 2nd will get C1 visual effects

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 01:39 PM

Would that be enough as evidence to trigger a reaction while the buff visually persists?

Since the damage is not buffed in abyss even when visual is on

I tried deaggroing like for Yae but that didn't work

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 01:44 PM

sure, if it's within 8s

mfw the TCL clearly says that co-op mates doesn't get buffed by Mona C1 but I didn't read it

added astro and yukie vids, thanks guys

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 01:49 PM

~~What about Mona Q~~

https://youtu.be/hUzY2j4ovzw

Pain

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 01:52 PM

I'll add it when I get home

so it's definitely just visual then

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 01:53 PM

I actually had a thought, though not sure if that'll work at all... be in co-op mode, have Mona in slot 3/4, accept someone - proc omen before they appear in world, have Mona be replaced

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 01:54 PM

that might work

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 02:08 PM

Does it actually work

...I don't even know anymore
https://youtu.be/k9WT9GuQAco

Why is this a thing

It worked when Yanfei was active when they joined

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 02:57 PM

sheeeshh

Mona is truly something esle

so that's why the abyss test didn't work

because Yanfei isn't an active char when Mona leaves party

I'll add both this vid and the abyss test
Mona needs special mention in the finding

both her Q and C1 kind of works but not like the others

🐟Sun, November 13, 2022 at 03:07 PM

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 13, 2022 at 03:13 PM

you did a good job

tysm

TiBotSun, November 13, 2022 at 03:14 PM

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela added @misono.mika as contributor

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 17, 2022 at 03:19 PM

I transferred the list into an evidences sheet to (hopefully) make it easier to update and maintain on the TCL:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mFfc1lL_KZ7cAmStgALG3jtN6KnNPgIkdtU0XBkd6l0/edit?usp=sharing

Status of debuffs/team buffs with duration after applier switch out...

Table

Characters,Skill type/Passive/Constellation,Does the buff/debuff persist?,Details
Albedo ,A4,Yes,https://youtu.be/yu2uQu8MAOY [Casdela#5121]
Aloy ,A1,Yes,https://youtu.be/7riZTbXhVGA [Casdela#5121]
Amber ,C6

any feedback regarding formatting, color and data presentation, readability, etc... is greatly appreciated

🐟Thu, November 17, 2022 at 07:55 PM

It looks clear enough to me, though I can't speak to the colors

I suppose you could trim out unused columns/rows if desired

Astro | 705193510Thu, November 17, 2022 at 08:17 PM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aQBmwOWZFhmP-ubXThl8rgW-cqY1uHnbBYWJp4khWQA/edit?usp=sharing
as for colors - my suggestion is smth like that, imo dark sheets feel easier for an eye to read

Copy Status of debuffs/team buffs with duration after applier switc...

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 17, 2022 at 08:28 PM

yes I want do to smth like that too
although the sheet becomes lighter in dark mode for some reason

Astro | 705193510Fri, November 18, 2022 at 08:38 AM

Is it the case only for google sheets app on phones or does it also get lighter in browser?
Using phone i don't have any problems in browser, so if it's just the app then it's probably fine

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, November 18, 2022 at 11:43 AM

Okay I changed the colors and font
Hopefully it wouldn't blind anyone trying to read the sheet anymore

Man after all the color changing I still like light colors the most

Waiting for Ayato, Klee, Tigh and Venti footage

basilissaofnutsSat, November 19, 2022 at 05:01 PM

I have all 4

What do I need to test

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, November 19, 2022 at 05:04 PM

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basilissaofnuts: What do I need to test

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, November 19, 2022 at 05:05 PM

Atomic you don't read pin do you

is_this_maddieSat, November 19, 2022 at 06:40 PM

those are some cons for sure

basilissaofnutsSat, November 19, 2022 at 10:45 PM

yeah

lol

unless i pull out the secret weapon

that i can tst all of this but without spending a signle dime

🐟Sat, November 19, 2022 at 11:35 PM

I might be able to find C2 Klee and venti

Tighnari I guess if I get one more I'd have C4, but I'm atm considering finding whales on twitch and donating for help kek

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 20, 2022 at 01:16 AM

isn't that a bit extreme

basilissaofnutsSun, November 20, 2022 at 01:26 AM

That is too extreme

Bruh

Lemme just get ps

Constellations are mostly implemented

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 20, 2022 at 01:29 AM

I'll bonk you if you do

This is a threat

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: isn't that a bit extreme

🐟Sun, November 20, 2022 at 03:23 AM

Maybe, but where else will I find C6 Venti/Klee at this point

Also recordings from ps wouldn't be eligible as evidence I'm pretty sure

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 20, 2022 at 03:25 AM

yeah don't use ps hyv spy is lurking

Astro | 705193510Sun, November 20, 2022 at 07:46 AM

I was on a track of c6 ayato, but it didn't work out

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSun, November 20, 2022 at 07:52 AM

🐟Wed, November 23, 2022 at 03:26 PM

Finding: Klee C2 persists after leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/0i8mf5_uEA8
Finding: Venti C2 persists after leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/O6MY3EDTuF4

Sadly these 2 need C6 too

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, November 23, 2022 at 04:01 PM

added

f99shiWed, November 23, 2022 at 09:06 PM

is there an example of a res shred or def shred not persisting?

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 24, 2022 at 04:10 AM

there isn't yet, I'm just being cautious

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f99shi: is there an example of a res shred or def shred not persisting?

🐟Thu, November 24, 2022 at 06:35 AM

Ayaka c4 doesn't persist in terms of the damage numbers, but arrows stay?

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, November 24, 2022 at 09:26 AM

oh shit you reminded me I haven't marked it as No yet

hopefully I only forgot one case

this is why everything needs to be test
can't trust hyv to be consistent with anything

TiBotThu, December 1, 2022 at 09:30 AM

This channel hasn't been active in the past week!

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, December 1, 2022 at 09:35 AM

if only C4 tigh, C4 ayato, C6 Klee and Venti will just drops from the sky

🐟Thu, December 1, 2022 at 03:49 PM

Well, 1 week until I may fail 50/50 again

TiBotThu, December 8, 2022 at 04:00 PM

This channel hasn't been active in the past week!

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, December 9, 2022 at 02:36 AM

🐟Fri, December 9, 2022 at 03:01 AM

~~I got Keqing~~

is_this_maddieFri, December 9, 2022 at 07:20 PM

just checking, is there any new character that needs testing?

🐟Fri, December 9, 2022 at 08:22 PM

Faruzan
burst, C6

Though I should be able to attempt those actually

~~Just need to do it so A4 doesn't mess with it ig~~

Actually A4 is tied to her buffs as well so probably worth including as well

Finding: Faruzan res shred% does persist after leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/8D9MsWXoeeI

Finding: Faruzan burst anemo DMG% does not persist after leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/AORFB71hiAk

Finding: Faruzan A4 does not persist after leaving the party
Evidence: https://youtu.be/xyediZJsft8

@misono.mika here

misono.mikaFri, December 9, 2022 at 11:31 PM

Finding: Faruzan A4/C6 DMG/Crit DMG do not stay after leaving Party - However the 30% Anemo Res Shred from C6 Collapse Does
Evidence: https://youtu.be/TOW9im0D8_o

🐟Fri, December 9, 2022 at 11:34 PM

~~Why does she have so many things anyways~~

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, December 10, 2022 at 02:07 AM

I will review and add stuff on Sunday

🐟Mon, December 12, 2022 at 09:55 PM

~~Is it still sunday somewhere~~

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaMon, December 12, 2022 at 11:59 PM

I didn't specify which Sunday

🐟Tue, December 13, 2022 at 09:36 AM

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, December 14, 2022 at 03:30 AM

Faruzan has Anemo dmg bonus% (Prayerful Wind's Benefit), RES shred (Perfidious Wind's Bale) from the Whirling Pulse effect of her Q,
then her A1 allows Faru to apply Anemo RES shred (Perfidious Wind's Bale) with her Pressurized Collapse effect from her E,
then her C6 allows her to apply Pressurized Collapse off-field which gives RES shred, along with Anemo CRIT dmg but only if party members is currently benefit from her dmg bonus% (Prayerful Wind's Benefit) from her Q

my head is about to explore bruh

For simplicity sake Faruzan's RES shred from the Pressurized Collapse effect from her E(+A1) and C6(+A1) will all be consider as part of her Q, and her C6 actually doesn't give dmg bonus

and then there is her A4

where the hell in her Q description mentions Prayerful Wind's Gift????
then they have the audacity to retcon back to Prayerful Wind's Benefit at the end of her A4 description
why the hell don't they use the wording Prayerful Wind's Benefit in the first place

basically both her C6 and A4 is tied to her Anemo dmg bonus% (Prayerful Wind's Benefit) from her Q, so if the dmg bonus% doesn't persist then none of her C6 and A4 effects can be activate

that reminds me, I forgot to include Gorou C6 in the list, if anyone can test that it would be great

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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: that reminds me, I forgot to include Gorou C6 in the list, if anyone can test that it would be great

🐟Wed, December 14, 2022 at 07:13 AM

Does this work?
Finding: Gorou C6 does not persist after leaving the party

Evidence: https://youtu.be/QSNZPlC1dUM

Gorou C6 does not persist after leaving the party