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pyronado-can-hit-wenut-balls

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TiBotFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:04 PM

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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:06 PM

finding: pyronado can hit wenut balls in the air
significance: no bow wenut? could allow for some other things in the future

i dont know if this is already known or not, i didnt find it in tcl so here i am

TiBotFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:06 PM

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avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:07 PM

since you guys gave me the idea

@jamberry since yall r confused hi do we already know this

🐟Fri, February 2, 2024 at 06:09 PM

Known doesn't necessarily mean you can't make a ticket as it's not in her TCL I guess, but it kinda needs more substance than this

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:09 PM

what do i cook

TiBotFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:10 PM

This ticket has been renamed to pryonado can hit wenut balls by @avondia

🐟Fri, February 2, 2024 at 06:10 PM

if you're able to test how tall the range is for an example

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:11 PM

it might be some interaction with wenut ball hitbox

is there an inactive pyro monument somwhere

🐟Fri, February 2, 2024 at 06:22 PM

there are some in the new area if you haven't lit them already, one of which is kinda floating

is_this_maddieFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:27 PM

balls

avondia: @jamberry since yall r confused hi do we already know this

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:30 PM

I mean the lower down ones yeah but I don't know the exact vertical range of her pyronado and in this video it looks higher than her visual effects are- I think that makes more sense as a useful ticket?

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:32 PM

wait i cooked

kinda ehhh, his feet are too low to the ground

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:33 PM

tickets should be for behavior not already documented or expected- ie x y or z hits wenut balls is not really a ticket cuz yeah attacks hit things in their hitbox
describing wenut's hurtbox is a ticket
describing an attack's hitbox is a ticket
a strange interaction where smth can pop a wenut ball without hitting it's hurtbox or where their attack's hitbox is larger for specific enemies or smth is a ticket

but like cuz we don't know wenut's hurtbox or pyronado's hitbox exactly this could just be like yes when the attack's hitbox hits an enemy's hurtbox it connects and does damage congrats you described combat video games

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:35 PM

interesting

but it's clearly not infinite

try drake

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:35 PM

im trying tf but it doesnt seem to hit it

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:36 PM

hmmm

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:36 PM

i thought it hitting wenut meant it had verticality, rather than the obvious which is that wenut's hitbox is massive

let me test drake

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:37 PM

if you want to give yourself a silly headache you could record an enemy in venti and see which hits connect and which don't at what heights

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:37 PM

i sadly dont have venti

im gonna try jean

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:37 PM

and with enough recordings that would be good data points

avondia: i sadly dont have venti

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:40 PM

you can use my login if you want just leave everything the way you found it

like if you strip everyone's artis to not kill an enemy just stick them on dori to not lose them

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:41 PM

it doesnt even hit the tail of the aeonblight drake

hmmge

jamberry since yall r confused: you can use my login if you want just leave everything the way you found it

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:41 PM

sure !

ill try with jean on my account first

just to see if this is a dead ticket or not

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:42 PM

ok

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:42 PM

uh

what enemy

would be best

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:42 PM

dunno

smth liftable but big hp

mirror maiden?

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:42 PM

yeah

you can lift mirror maidens?

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:43 PM

and just strip all artis and use lvl1 weps

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:43 PM

oh

vv domain

avondia: you can lift mirror maidens?

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:43 PM

before they mark you yeah

but they can't mark you if they're perma cc'ed so

also I'm at work so I may be slow to respond until tonight if you want to borrow

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:50 PM

yeah no this ticket is dead

it doesnt hit an abyss mage

at max jean height

wait

jamberry since yall r confused: also I'm at work so I may be slow to respond until tonight if you want to borrow

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:52 PM

tysm

its alright ill try to cook

jamberry since yall r confused: smth liftable but big hp

haafrFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:58 PM

yseut

the local legend

avondiaFri, February 2, 2024 at 06:58 PM

jean max height seems to be where it cant hit, anything slightly lower is okay

yeah no

k!ventilift wait @jamberry since yall r confused its already on here

avondia: k!ventilift wait @jamberry since yall r confused its already on here

KikinFri, February 2, 2024 at 07:10 PM

Venti Succ Database

Characters and Talents tab shows who can hit enemies lifted by Venti's Burst. Enemies tab shows which enemies are affected by Venti's pull and to what degree.

avondia: k!ventilift wait @jamberry since yall r confused its already on here

jamberry since yall r confusedFri, February 2, 2024 at 08:49 PM

it literally just says no which seems silly bc like that is not true

you can hit the lower down ones

TiBotFri, February 9, 2024 at 09:00 PM

This channel hasn't been active in the past week!

is_this_maddieSun, February 11, 2024 at 10:00 PM

baals

@avondia

avondiaSun, February 11, 2024 at 11:09 PM

baals

is_this_maddie: baals

avondiaSun, February 11, 2024 at 11:09 PM

close this its deadge

TiBotSun, February 11, 2024 at 11:23 PM

Ticket closed by @is_this_maddie. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, February 23, 2024 at 02:38 AM

wdym close it

:A_CryLaughTao:

@avondia ticket close is for tickets that are ready to be review
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asaki_tmkFri, February 23, 2024 at 02:05 PM

If OP kinda dipped, can someone re-open this ticket? I have a rough idea of what's going on and can do the write-up for this.

TiBotFri, February 23, 2024 at 07:38 PM

Ticket re-opened by @is_this_maddie

asaki_tmk: If OP kinda dipped, can someone re-open this ticket? I have a rough idea of what's going on and can do the write-up for this.

is_this_maddieFri, February 23, 2024 at 07:38 PM

there you go

asaki_tmkFri, February 23, 2024 at 08:43 PM

Finding:
The Wenut's Anemo Orbs (Windbite Bullets) have a larger hitbox than what their visuals indicate.

Evidence:
Kuki: https://imgur.com/gallery/ji5WDqp
Xiangling: https://imgur.com/gallery/Tda8rXX
Pyronado and Venti for height reference: https://imgur.com/gallery/E7lsCG4

Significance:
Frequently-hitting attacks that stick mostly to the ground such as Pyronado or Sanctifying Ring can also be sufficient to Paralyze the Wenut from its Floating State.

Ok, I'm done. If anyone wants me to add anything, please ping me. Otherwise this ticket can be closed for verification imo (context: I can't close bcz I'm not OP).

TiBotSat, February 24, 2024 at 08:22 AM

@( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela transferred ownership of this ticket to @asaki_tmk.

( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, February 24, 2024 at 08:23 AM

@asaki_tmk you should be able to close it now

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TiBotSat, February 24, 2024 at 05:24 PM

Ticket closed by @asaki_tmk. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.

asaki_tmk: Finding:

cqlqrsSun, February 25, 2024 at 06:48 AM

wait

doesnt this prove that xiangling has bigger hurt box and not that the wenut balls have bigger hitbox

the vid visually shows pyronado hitting but its not making contact with the enemies

its more likely that pyronado being the constant here has bigger hurtbox than so many enemies having bigger hitboxes

TiBotSun, February 25, 2024 at 06:51 AM

Ticket re-opened by @cqlqrs

cqlqrsSun, February 25, 2024 at 06:55 AM

but ofc ure free to test out individually that all those enemies have bigger hitboxes if you want to stick with ur theory

cqlqrs: the vid visually shows pyronado hitting but its not making contact with the enemies

asaki_tmkSun, February 25, 2024 at 07:45 AM

but the thing is Pyronado is not hitting all of them or even consistently, which I attribute to just enemies being juggled up and down by Venti's vacuum

cqlqrs: the vid visually shows pyronado hitting but its not making contact with the enemies

sharaths21312Sun, February 25, 2024 at 12:28 PM

Pyronado doesn't hit all the enemies when they're in the air

The hitbox is slightly larger (like the fact that there's no gap between the pyronado and the player) but the vertical extension isn't significant enough to hit wenut balls

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Venti's burst lifting isn't consistent, enemies dip down and go up a lot

You can see that particularly on the pyro agent

sharaths21312: The hitbox is slightly larger (like the fact that there's no gap between the pyronado and the player) but the vertical extension isn't significant enough to hit wenut balls

cqlqrsSun, February 25, 2024 at 12:52 PM

ah alright thanks for clarifying

TiBotSun, February 25, 2024 at 12:52 PM

Ticket closed by @cqlqrs. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or /open.

Ticket verified by @cqlqrs

This ticket has been renamed to pyronado can hit wenut balls by @🐟

🐟Mon, February 26, 2024 at 02:26 AM

~~What even is a pryonado~~

TiBotMon, February 26, 2024 at 02:26 AM

Ticket verified by @🐟

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