KQM | Genshin Impact
some-keqing-mechanics
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Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSat, June 18, 2022 at 09:22 AM
technically known information
just not explicitly mentioned in Keqing's page
Finding:
Keqing's C1, Thundering Might, procs before the second part of E, Stellar Restoration. Basically, the damage goes like:
E1 - C1start - C1terminus - E2
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/XTXQ30QguLA
Check the last hilichurl. There's also a final clip in the video that can be paused to check which damage numbers pop up.
Significance:
This means that it is possible for Keqing to hit up to 3 times before hitting E2, which is relevant because it is E2 that generates energy. If a target dies before E2, then no energy is generated. The ordering can potentially affect calcs or something similar, maybe even for future characters that only buff certain amount of hits.
Keqing's C1, Thundering Might, procs before the second part of E, Stellar Restoration. Basically, the damage goes like:
E1 - C1start - C1terminus - E2
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/XTXQ30QguLA
Check the last hilichurl. There's also a final clip in the video that can be paused to check which damage numbers pop up.
Significance:
This means that it is possible for Keqing to hit up to 3 times before hitting E2, which is relevant because it is E2 that generates energy. If a target dies before E2, then no energy is generated. The ordering can potentially affect calcs or something similar, maybe even for future characters that only buff certain amount of hits.
Finding:
It is possible for Keqing to perform a Dragonstrike from her second cast of her E, Stellar Restoration.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/gCVCo52YPkM
Significance:
Not particularly significant, but it is an interesting tech that can lead to satisfying combos if executed right.
It is possible for Keqing to perform a Dragonstrike from her second cast of her E, Stellar Restoration.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/gCVCo52YPkM
Significance:
Not particularly significant, but it is an interesting tech that can lead to satisfying combos if executed right.
There's also the no dash/stamina Dragonstrike for Keqing, but it is in the TCL
Just not located in Keqing's vault.
I guess I can also include the energy gen thing, since it's not mentioned either
Finding:
Keqing's Elemental Skill is comprised of the hurling a Lightning Stiletto and the accompanying action she does (if any) after hurling it. The act of hurling the Stiletto places a Mark on the spot hit, but does not generate any particle.
Keqing can generate particles from her Elemental Skill if she uses:
1. Stellar Restoration (E) again, therefore teleporting to the location of the Mark and performing a slash attack; or
2. a Charged Attack (CA) to ignite a series of thundering cuts at the Mark's location.
Both of these actions produce particles at Keqing's location, rather than the target location.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/pLs4xDU8dEc
Just Keqing spamming E.
Significance:
Her particle generation is locked behind the second parts of her Skill. Either action can produce particles. If she fails to use E or CA before the Mark expires, she will not generate any particle from her Skill.
Keqing's Elemental Skill is comprised of the hurling a Lightning Stiletto and the accompanying action she does (if any) after hurling it. The act of hurling the Stiletto places a Mark on the spot hit, but does not generate any particle.
Keqing can generate particles from her Elemental Skill if she uses:
1. Stellar Restoration (E) again, therefore teleporting to the location of the Mark and performing a slash attack; or
2. a Charged Attack (CA) to ignite a series of thundering cuts at the Mark's location.
Both of these actions produce particles at Keqing's location, rather than the target location.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/pLs4xDU8dEc
Just Keqing spamming E.
Significance:
Her particle generation is locked behind the second parts of her Skill. Either action can produce particles. If she fails to use E or CA before the Mark expires, she will not generate any particle from her Skill.
The TCL has incorrectly named the slashing dmg as Stiletto Mark Secondary
(unless that's intentional)
the particle gen column implies it's the lightning stiletto that produces the particles
or that thunderclap slash does not
in-game reference
I think that's it for Keqing 
!rm 1d close if nothing else
(!) Keqing's Eternal AssistantSat, June 18, 2022 at 10:03 AM
Alright Rathalos, I'll remind you about close if nothing else in 1 day. ID: 42702090
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSat, June 18, 2022 at 10:10 AM
I think I've also Jump-Plunge from N1 before but it's too annoying to replicate + record 
nzpiefaceSat, June 18, 2022 at 07:22 PM
another significance is that c1 shares icd with e but has diff gauge unit
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1Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 01:15 AM
idk how to prove that 
daibangdenSun, June 19, 2022 at 03:51 AM
is this not already in tcl?
nah im not gonna go check it
nah im not gonna go check it
nzpiefaceSun, June 19, 2022 at 04:10 AM
literally attack anything and see the gauge be 1U instead of 2U
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 04:12 AM
no i mean the icd thing
can maybe fight pyro hypostasis?
daibangdenSun, June 19, 2022 at 05:12 AM
you can test it on regisvines
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 05:53 AM
doesn't seem like it?
also why is the format like this
is the "-" meant to mean "same as the previous column?"
or is just nothing
daibangdenSun, June 19, 2022 at 05:59 AM
i think it's better to refer to the gauge google sheet one
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 06:11 AM
that sheet has icd listed on it too?
daibangdenSun, June 19, 2022 at 06:18 AM
no, icd and gauge are 2 different things, that sheet only has gauge
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 06:27 AM
so why shld i go there
to add:
- slight hE but is actually tE
- lightning effect on N5
- slight hE but is actually tE
- lightning effect on N5
- spin Keqing
Finding:
Keqing's N4 doesn't actually give i-frames or makes her invulnerable when she's invisible. Her model automatically goes to the ground (presumably crouching while invisible) after disappearing. Her disappearance also makes accompanying visuals and companions (like a Seelie) disappear with her. This includes shields, buff visuals and even her own shadow.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/dgldXSK-BuI [Classic Ruin Guard dodge]
https://youtu.be/4uHvhFUbsa4 [Keq taking damage during N4]
https://youtu.be/Bkf8ta97Ffo [Keq freezing while invisible]
https://youtu.be/vzIA-7M_EJA [Keq N4 ft. Seelie, shadow, shield, buffs]
Significance:
Clearing an old misconception. Explaining the N4 behavior.
Keqing's N4 doesn't actually give i-frames or makes her invulnerable when she's invisible. Her model automatically goes to the ground (presumably crouching while invisible) after disappearing. Her disappearance also makes accompanying visuals and companions (like a Seelie) disappear with her. This includes shields, buff visuals and even her own shadow.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/dgldXSK-BuI [Classic Ruin Guard dodge]
https://youtu.be/4uHvhFUbsa4 [Keq taking damage during N4]
https://youtu.be/Bkf8ta97Ffo [Keq freezing while invisible]
https://youtu.be/vzIA-7M_EJA [Keq N4 ft. Seelie, shadow, shield, buffs]
Significance:
Clearing an old misconception. Explaining the N4 behavior.
Her Q also makes the seelie disappear
Finding:
Aiming and releasing Keqing's E too fast can transform it into a tap E effect. Against no enemy, using tap E places the Mark directly in front of her. Hold/aimed E usually teleports Keqing mid-air in the aimed direction when used, but not in this case. The Mark is placed on the ground, where tap E usually would place it, rather than above ground.
If there is an enemy nearby, the Mark is autotargeted toward the enemy, rather than at the aimed direction.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/mbmTXhwWfwQ
Significance:
This is relevant in situations where inputs are usually fast-paced, like in combat. It's recommended to not release hold E too fast if you want the Mark to actually reach the designated area. A relevant example is if you want to force a high plunge attack to trigger an enemy pattern/attack.
Aiming and releasing Keqing's E too fast can transform it into a tap E effect. Against no enemy, using tap E places the Mark directly in front of her. Hold/aimed E usually teleports Keqing mid-air in the aimed direction when used, but not in this case. The Mark is placed on the ground, where tap E usually would place it, rather than above ground.
If there is an enemy nearby, the Mark is autotargeted toward the enemy, rather than at the aimed direction.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/mbmTXhwWfwQ
Significance:
This is relevant in situations where inputs are usually fast-paced, like in combat. It's recommended to not release hold E too fast if you want the Mark to actually reach the designated area. A relevant example is if you want to force a high plunge attack to trigger an enemy pattern/attack.
nzpiefaceSun, June 19, 2022 at 02:40 PM
Keqing's N4 doesn't actually give i-frames or makes her invulnerable when she's invisible. Her model automatically goes to the ground (presumably crouching while invisible) after disappearing.i dont see anything that supports either
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 02:40 PM
Finding:
Keqing's N5 has lightning/sparks effect that appear under her as she dashes. This effect is usually not fully visible while attacking on a flat, even surface. The effect persists even when her weapon is infused.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/6xSo0biXfJw
Significance:
Cool stuff. Very nice.
Keqing's N5 has lightning/sparks effect that appear under her as she dashes. This effect is usually not fully visible while attacking on a flat, even surface. The effect persists even when her weapon is infused.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/6xSo0biXfJw
Significance:
Cool stuff. Very nice.
nzpiefaceSun, June 19, 2022 at 02:40 PM
you literally have her dodging the ruin guard dude
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 02:41 PM
You're right
I can add her getting hit
i forgot 
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 03:04 PM
is this good enough for proof?
nzpiefaceSun, June 19, 2022 at 03:04 PM
reading manga rn
will watch in an hour or two
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 19, 2022 at 03:05 PM
Finding:
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, hurls a Lightning Stiletto that places a Stiletto Mark on a spot. This Stiletto Mark allows her to recast E to blink, or to use CA to make it ignite a series of thundering cuts at the Mark's location. The Stiletto Mark lasts about 5s before being cleared.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/GCn2tvPxk-o
https://imgur.com/a/2Lb0tp9
The image shows that it's on 2.4s cd, meaning the mark has been on the air for about [7.5s skill cd - 2.4s from the image =] 5.1s. This methodology can be refined by people with better recording software, but the Mark should generally last ~5s.
Significance:
This matters because it can be possible to start with Keqing E in a rotation, have enough time to swap to other characters, and then swap back to Keqing to perform E or CA. Also allows other plays that need the extra time on the Mark.
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, hurls a Lightning Stiletto that places a Stiletto Mark on a spot. This Stiletto Mark allows her to recast E to blink, or to use CA to make it ignite a series of thundering cuts at the Mark's location. The Stiletto Mark lasts about 5s before being cleared.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/GCn2tvPxk-o
https://imgur.com/a/2Lb0tp9
The image shows that it's on 2.4s cd, meaning the mark has been on the air for about [7.5s skill cd - 2.4s from the image =] 5.1s. This methodology can be refined by people with better recording software, but the Mark should generally last ~5s.
Significance:
This matters because it can be possible to start with Keqing E in a rotation, have enough time to swap to other characters, and then swap back to Keqing to perform E or CA. Also allows other plays that need the extra time on the Mark.
Keqing's Burst can also be ended earlier than the ~3s duration it has but it's going to need frame counting to know exacftly how early, and I just can't
also am i correct in saying the fixed max distance she can blink is about six tiles?
nzpiefaceSun, June 19, 2022 at 04:36 PM
yeah very convincing1
1daibangdenMon, June 20, 2022 at 03:43 AM
will just leave this here
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerMon, June 20, 2022 at 03:43 AM
yeah
I'm planning to make one for the fixed distance thing
daibangdenMon, June 20, 2022 at 03:46 AM
doesn't work when you switch map
you can also cancel hold E by open map while still holding E and teleport away
Hold E max distance = 1/2 tap E max distance
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1Rathalos | ask me abt travelerMon, June 20, 2022 at 11:31 AM
Here's a practical application of the Keq E1 duration and Q early cancel
anju06Mon, June 20, 2022 at 11:35 AM
it can also be used to get 1 Mist stack, then EQE which you usually can't
i will post rotation later
(why are we doing this there used to be literally #tc-keqing
)
i will post rotation later
(why are we doing this there used to be literally #tc-keqing
)Rathalos | ask me abt travelerMon, June 20, 2022 at 12:10 PM
I only started caring about KQ now
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:52 AM
inhales
Oh fuck you, you just made #971520906935545926 three thousand times more complex by explaining that mechanic
Oh fuck you, you just made #971520906935545926 three thousand times more complex by explaining that mechanic
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:52 AM
huh
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:52 AM
Well now I’m back to recording hell I guess
Goddammit
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:52 AM
oh
oh no
i'm sorry
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:52 AM
I also got to rewrite the whole thing again
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:52 AM
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:53 AM
You know how extremely hard this all will be to prove
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:53 AM
are u gonna include other stuff like shields?
you can always just limit the scope of the ticket
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:53 AM
Stooooooooop
I limit
To companions
Although shields would be more useful
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:53 AM
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:53 AM
God no
Wow I hate this every second more
taylor_series19Tue, June 21, 2022 at 04:55 AM
Keqing can also get frozen when she is invisible during her N4, iirc.
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:55 AM
Yep
Oh should i include that
taylor_series19Tue, June 21, 2022 at 04:55 AM
idk
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:55 AM
I think that can be a separate ticket entirely
investigating all chars like #971520906935545926
or not
i can just make it keqing specific
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:56 AM
Honestly
You just opened a whole new door on disappearance
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:56 AM
what did i even do
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:56 AM
Cause Keq isn’t disappearing
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:56 AM
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:56 AM
We all assumed she did
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:57 AM
you didn't know her model was on the ground?
Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:57 AM
No
At least I didn’t know that Keqing likes to become the floor
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 04:57 AM
To do:
- Q Spin Keq
- hE Spin Keq
- Electro-phys Plunge
- Snapshot on c1?
- hE vs tE distance
- n4 freeze
- chong / ben c6 experiment
- hE vs tE distance
- chong / ben c6 experiment
why am i making this ticket so bloated
taylor_series19Tue, June 21, 2022 at 04:59 AM
Because Keqing is fun.
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 07:40 AM
TCL seems to be wrong
Keqing E1 E2 doesn't make E2 snapshot from E1, it's dynamic
E1 CA snapshots from E1 tho
C1 follows E2 buffs
Finding:
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, has different snapshot mechanics based on usage. Its damage is dealt in two parts: E1 and activation. After using E1, activation happens via E2 which procs Slashing DMG and C1 (Thundering Might), or via CA which only procs Thunderclap Slash DMG.
Both the Slashing DMG from E2 and the Thundering Might DMG do not snapshot from E1. They are dynamic. However, Thunderclap Slash DMG snapshots from E1 cast, and does not benefit from snapshot-related buffs after casting E1.
Methodology:
Slashing DMG + Thundering Might DMG
Footage: https://youtu.be/YLf-w2gebMg
Keqing E1E2
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing E2
Sara buff active - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing E2
Thunderclap Slash DMG
Footage: https://youtu.be/NRgnjwDswjo
Keqing E1CA
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing CA
Sara E - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing CA
Significance:
This matters for rotation crafting. Better understanding of Keqing's kit.
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, has different snapshot mechanics based on usage. Its damage is dealt in two parts: E1 and activation. After using E1, activation happens via E2 which procs Slashing DMG and C1 (Thundering Might), or via CA which only procs Thunderclap Slash DMG.
Both the Slashing DMG from E2 and the Thundering Might DMG do not snapshot from E1. They are dynamic. However, Thunderclap Slash DMG snapshots from E1 cast, and does not benefit from snapshot-related buffs after casting E1.
Methodology:
Slashing DMG + Thundering Might DMG
Footage: https://youtu.be/YLf-w2gebMg
Keqing E1E2
E1 dmg = 2803
C1 dmg = 1636 (2)
E2 dmg = 9346
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing E2
E1 dmg = 2803
C1 dmg = 2005 (2)
E2 dmg = 11457
Sara buff active - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing E2
E1 dmg = 3437
C1 dmg = 1636 (2)
E2 dmg = 9346
Thunderclap Slash DMG
Footage: https://youtu.be/NRgnjwDswjo
Keqing E1CA
E1 dmg = 2803
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 4673 (2)
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing CA
E1 dmg = 2803
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 4673 (2)
Sara E - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing CA
E1 dmg = 3437
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 5728 (2)
Significance:
This matters for rotation crafting. Better understanding of Keqing's kit.
Keqing C1 and E2 Snapshot Mechanics
Methodology:
Keqing E1E2
E1 dmg = 2803
C1 dmg = 1636 (2)
E2 dmg = 9346
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing E2
E1 dmg = 2803
C1 dmg = 2005 (2)
E2 dmg = 11457
*** Sara buff active - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing E2
E1 dmg = 3437
C1 dmg = 1636 (2)
E2 dmg = 9346
Keqing E1E2
E1 dmg = 2803
C1 dmg = 1636 (2)
E2 dmg = 9346
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing E2
E1 dmg = 2803
C1 dmg = 2005 (2)
E2 dmg = 11457
*** Sara buff active - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing E2
E1 dmg = 3437
C1 dmg = 1636 (2)
E2 dmg = 9346
Keqing E - Thunderclap Slash Snapshot Mechanics
Methodology:
Keqing E1CA
E1 dmg = 2803
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 4673 (2)
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing CA
E1 dmg = 2803
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 4673 (2)
*** Sara E - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing CA
E1 dmg = 3437
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 5728 (2)
Keqing E1CA
E1 dmg = 2803
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 4673 (2)
Keqing E1 - Sara E - Keqing CA
E1 dmg = 2803
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 4673 (2)
*** Sara E - Keqing E1 - Sara buff expires - Keqing CA
E1 dmg = 3437
Thunderclap Slash dmg = 5728 (2)
nzpiefaceTue, June 21, 2022 at 08:37 AM
i love how its just rath does keq mechanics when this is called keqing mains
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 08:37 AM
nzpiefaceTue, June 21, 2022 at 08:40 AM
well she was moved to above the ice
so her collision box was on the ground
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 08:41 AM
maybe the ice just has big AoE
like
how did the projectile miss
my keq was frozen
is the abyss mage just having skillissues
Finding:
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, infuses her Normal Attacks, Charged Attacks and Plunge Attacks with Electro. However, it is possible for the Electro infusion to expire while plunging, resulting in a Physical Plunge Attack despite showing Electro visuals on the way down. The landing effects are also Physical/uninfused instead of Electro.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/NODvk9cZsRA
Significance:
Not particularly significant in combat, but it is worth noting that this can happen.
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, infuses her Normal Attacks, Charged Attacks and Plunge Attacks with Electro. However, it is possible for the Electro infusion to expire while plunging, resulting in a Physical Plunge Attack despite showing Electro visuals on the way down. The landing effects are also Physical/uninfused instead of Electro.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/NODvk9cZsRA
Significance:
Not particularly significant in combat, but it is worth noting that this can happen.
this also applies to ayaka btw
nzpiefaceTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:20 AM
@Rathalos | ask me abt traveler can you test bennett c6 or chongyun with plunge to see if you can blow up a barrel from midair
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:21 AM
nzpiefaceTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:21 AM
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:21 AM
also wdym
from midair?
nzpiefaceTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:24 AM
yeah
yknow
weapon infusion from midair
so yknow
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:24 AM
Finding:
Keqing's Q, Starward Sword, can be burst-cancelled. This means that it is possible to interrupt Keqing before the Burst can actually go through, and doing so can trigger special effects associated with Burst activation, such as her Ascension 4 Passive that gives Crit Rate and ER. Burst cancelling Keqing like this does not actually use up her Energy, put the Burst on cooldown, nor does it deal damage. However, it can potentially lock Keqing in place momentarily, where attempted movement can result to rapid spinning.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/Ka7Bz68Y1Bo
Significance:
Very poggers. Free Burst!
Keqing's Q, Starward Sword, can be burst-cancelled. This means that it is possible to interrupt Keqing before the Burst can actually go through, and doing so can trigger special effects associated with Burst activation, such as her Ascension 4 Passive that gives Crit Rate and ER. Burst cancelling Keqing like this does not actually use up her Energy, put the Burst on cooldown, nor does it deal damage. However, it can potentially lock Keqing in place momentarily, where attempted movement can result to rapid spinning.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/Ka7Bz68Y1Bo
Significance:
Very poggers. Free Burst!
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:25 AM
but like wdym blow up a barrel
isn't it the same regardless of infusion?
or are barrels immune to infused attacks like trees
nzpiefaceTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:26 AM
no like
weapon infusion
causes reactions on weapon
this can break explosive barrels
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:27 AM
OH that
yeah no fk that
i have no chong yet
maybe later? 
anju06Tue, June 21, 2022 at 09:35 AM
isnt this just part of burst cancel?
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:35 AM
yes
but burst cancel isn't in the tcl yet
anju06Tue, June 21, 2022 at 09:35 AM
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:35 AM
also this is specfically
spin keq
afaik only Jean has the spinning thing on burst cancel
anju06Tue, June 21, 2022 at 09:36 AM
i remember there was a time when you can burst cancel on Keqing by swapping characters
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:36 AM
you can still do that
to every character, in theory
anju06Tue, June 21, 2022 at 09:37 AM
idk though it was like mor than a year ago
i dont think you can do it anymore
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerTue, June 21, 2022 at 09:37 AM
most recent one I saw was ayato
Finding:
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, can be held to manually aim the direction of the Lightning Mark. Releasing E and spinning the camera makes Keqing spin in place, away from the direction of the Mark.
It is also possible to send the Mark in another direction by rapidly spinning the camera after releasing E.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/ZrYrZ2hTHng
Significance:
Some technical stuff. Kinda poggers.
Keqing's E, Stellar Restoration, can be held to manually aim the direction of the Lightning Mark. Releasing E and spinning the camera makes Keqing spin in place, away from the direction of the Mark.
It is also possible to send the Mark in another direction by rapidly spinning the camera after releasing E.
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/ZrYrZ2hTHng
Significance:
Some technical stuff. Kinda poggers.
just need the hE vs tE distance
i have to do domain tiles
@nzpieface what do you want for the barrels thing
it seems like the weapon reaction happens pretty much instantly it's hard to do it midair
nzpiefaceWed, June 22, 2022 at 08:26 AM
rip
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 08:26 AM
what do you want me to prove?
that it deals dmg?
nzpiefaceWed, June 22, 2022 at 08:27 AM that you get knocked back midair1
no
that you get knocked back midair1Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 08:27 AM
or that it makes barrels explode?
isn't that already a thing
getting hit in the air
need help in gauges
explain this
why is there both Keqing SC and Chong SC after Keq E2?
Keq SC = 484
Chong SC = 167
Chong SC = 167
maybe it's still just lingering cryo aura?
i accidentally killed Gino so I can't test on him yet
daibangdenWed, June 22, 2022 at 11:50 AM
cryo sword + electro = SC > electro sword
electro sword + cryo field = SC again
electro sword + cryo field = SC again
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 11:58 AM
wdym
talking specifically about this
Keqing on cryo field using E2
Keqing only infuses once
daibangdenWed, June 22, 2022 at 11:59 AM
i mean that when Keqing is on the field her sword is infused with cryo, then when you use E twice, you apply electro to it, so it SC, and infuse the sword with electro (this idk why maybe that's just how weapon gauge is) then the field applies cryo again on the sword
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 12:00 PM
shouldn't the first SC remove electro
daibangdenWed, June 22, 2022 at 12:02 PM
"this idk why maybe that's just how weapon gauge is"
just like how you can overvape/burn something by using strong enough pyro attack so it will remove electro gauge and apply pyro again eventhough it should only do one reaction
just like how you can overvape/burn something by using strong enough pyro attack so it will remove electro gauge and apply pyro again eventhough it should only do one reaction
in this case it might just be her E infusion is strong enough to remove cryo and apply electro at the same time
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 12:06 PM
yeah that's probably the case
daibangdenWed, June 22, 2022 at 12:10 PM
you can try this: Chongyun E, Keqing standing in the field > throw E outside the field > teleport > see if her sword is electro or physical
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 12:21 PM
i'll try later
i don't like this
it's not fun
gauge tc is not fun
i'll probably leave this to someone else
I'll just document that it causes SC and OL for KQ
ok you know what
i don't want to do the rest of this ticket
i'm tired
wtf
my pin perms are gone
aight
TiBotWed, June 22, 2022 at 01:11 PM
Ticket closed by @Rathalos | ask me abt traveler. If there are any issues with it - it can be reopened by the owner or staff by using the buttons below or
/open.Rathalos | ask me abt travelerWed, June 22, 2022 at 01:12 PM
all the relevant stuff/mechanics are in the pins, except the todo list that I can't unpin anymore
have fun verifying
makeway4pkWed, June 22, 2022 at 01:49 PM
ooo, authors can write after closing! good change
daibangdenWed, June 22, 2022 at 03:56 PM
TibotWed, June 22, 2022 at 04:00 PM
wasn't an intended change, I messed something up (moving category reset channel overrides), won't happen with other tickets
pin permissions are gone for currently open tickets due to fixing perms for new bot, should be fixed on new tickets
what is intended is that authors can use open button again
pin permissions are gone for currently open tickets due to fixing perms for new bot, should be fixed on new tickets
what is intended is that authors can use open button again
makeway4pkWed, June 22, 2022 at 04:01 PM
ohh, ya, allowing authors open btn is just right
nzpiefaceThu, June 23, 2022 at 03:18 AM
weapon gauges have the new element linger
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerThu, June 23, 2022 at 03:23 AM
it's not fun to think about so
꧁༺ 𝑀𝑜𝓃𝑜𝒸𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓂⑨༻꧂Fri, July 15, 2022 at 05:50 AM
so self gauges and weapon gauges work differently from normal
it's not Cryo infuse -> electro infuse -> normal weapon it's Cryo infuse that decayed a little -> electro infuse sends it past phys directly into electro but only partially -> CY ticks again sending it back to cryo
hence two reactions
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerFri, July 15, 2022 at 05:52 AM
yeah I decided to ignore it bc I didn't want to think about it further
꧁༺ 𝑀𝑜𝓃𝑜𝒸𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓂⑨༻꧂Fri, July 15, 2022 at 05:52 AM
well i've already covered it elsewhere so it's nbd 
Rathalos | ask me abt travelerFri, July 15, 2022 at 05:52 AM
yeah
TiBotMon, July 18, 2022 at 11:06 PM
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