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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:50 AM
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 07:52 AM
I don't have access :ohno:
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:52 AM
try now
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 07:53 AM
Nice :keqexcited:
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I can't pin because I don't have 2FA :ohno:
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:55 AM
uh uh idk
oh in here
LOL
oh
i cant because i'm not part of the thing, am i contributor?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 07:57 AM
I can add you
Actually maybe I'll just do the write up here instead of the doc
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:58 AM
just add me should work
i'll be pin bot
love1
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 07:58 AM
hm no didnt help q.q
that's lame should i reopen it? no its been more than 5min
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:00 AM
Whatever I'll ask a mod to pin stuff then
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wrong pingTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:00 AM
:yaethumbsup_shina:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:01 AM
Thanks Mina :love:
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 08:05 AM
i might check instructor you havent tested that yet right?
might be worth checking if exile also continues regening er
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:07 AM
yeah I haven't tested 4* sets yet
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 08:07 AM
ok i'll do those
instructor doesnt stay
it might be that things that affect the whole party stay, like tenacity should also stay if this is true
wait no because instructor does
but worth checking tenacity also
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:14 AM
To clarify futher the first line should states: "Finding/Possible Bug(?): Some artifact's 4pc bonus with trigger condition(s) and timer/duration will end instantly if any artifact is unequipped while the 4pc bonus is active:"
Evidences:
- Gilded Dream: https://youtu.be/nlNsD4qnidI
- Shinenawa Reminiscene: https://youtu.be/yKj4GN9bOa4
- Vermillion Hereafter: https://youtu.be/f7JGW_pLpCk
- Ocean-hue Clam: https://youtu.be/dYM8r4Dqu2w
- Husk: https://youtu.be/GC87gQpGTkg
- Heart of Depth: https://youtu.be/FuyegSLLAYE
- Pale Flame: https://youtu.be/F-Ff2DZWcNM
- Noblesse: https://youtu.be/c4PwMjR5sGo
I will update more link later
Unfortunately Tenacity's buff is too short, it will run out if I use the same way to test other artifact
I'll have to find another way to test it:Sadge:
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 08:29 AM
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Reply to Avatar ( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela: Unfortunately Tenacity's buff is too short, it will run out if I use the same way to test other artifact
Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 08:37 AM
can probably do what i used in the instructor clip
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:41 AM
Oh ok I'll do that
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 08:44 AM
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 08:47 AM
Now only Tenacity, Maiden Beloved, Bloodstain Chivalry, Deepwood Memories and VV are 5* sets that need to be tested
I'll do it in a couple hours
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 09:29 AM
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 01:48 PM
- No animal were harm in making of this vid (VV): https://youtu.be/FkvLa8nVakc
VV RES shred remains even after artifacts removal
No birds were harmed in the making of this video
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jasTue, September 20, 2022 at 02:26 PM
have you tested if the effect returns if you unequip and re-equip the 4p set before the original effect duration would have ended?
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Reply to Avatar jas: have you tested if the effect returns if you unequip and re-equip the 4p set before the original effect duration would have ended?
Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 02:39 PM
i did not
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 02:58 PM
Yes I have, it doesn't
It's the same with unequipping an off-piece artifact and it's obvious that unequipping the 4pc set will end the effect so I didn't show it
Bad news, due to the fact that Deepwood requires a skill or burst to actually hit an enemy to shred Dendro, but de-aggro an enemy to exit combat will also remove the RES sherd, and if exiting combat through killing all enemies, there would be no enemy to check if the RES shred persist, I'm unable to test Deepwood
I'll pretend it doesn't exist then:Gladge:
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Reply to Avatar jas: have you tested if the effect returns if you unequip and re-equip the 4p set before the original effect duration would have ended?
( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 03:48 PM
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:18 PM
nice i think that's all the sets that can be affected then
doc is updated
do we want to include a use case clip?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:22 PM
I don't think it need to be included
Also the only useful buffs are Noblesse and VV(Tenacity duration is too short, Maiden is....Maiden) but even then VV reset if exit combat so only Noblessed is usable
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:24 PM
do you want me to add anything else to the doc before you submit
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:28 PM
Can you clarify futher in the finding that "Some artifact 4pc set bonuses with trigger condition(s) AND timer/duration will end instantly if any artifact is unequipped while the 4pc bonus is active, but... "
In the Noblesse line change "a piece" into "any piece"
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:33 PM
is that the same for ocean hued
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:33 PM
yeah
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:34 PM
k i think vv and ocean hue are the only slightly different effect ones
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:34 PM
I think you should clam up before noblesse
And for VV add "remain on the enemy even when any piece is removed, note that exiting combat to change artifact will also reset all debuff and health of enemies, thus also remove VV's resistance shred"
What if we meme in the Significance part with sth like Maiden new meta:OMEGALUL: it looks so empty
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:44 PM
LOL
i was thinking maybe this can come in handy for co-op showcases
if one person is in combat, and the 2nd swaps between noblesse and tenacity or something
tenacity should proc from animals too right?
so they could maybe do this while staying out of combat
could add maidens as a buff to help a ohc user deal more clam dmg if necessary, maybe for someone like kuki who has a set amount they heal
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:46 PM
Tenacity has distance limit to keep in mind tho, about 40m radius
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:46 PM
hm
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:46 PM
Maiden too
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:47 PM
so kuki ohc proc showcase? lol
use maiden, burst, swap set to ohc, press e
since otherwise i think it's usually capped at 10k or something like that since she can't heal more to proc a bigger bubble
is dori also like this? i'm not familiar with the kit
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:49 PM
Artifact swapping can be useful in single player, but in co-op the timer will keep ticking while you change artifact
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:49 PM
right yes
i'll add significance of maidens for characters with set healing for ohc proc
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:51 PM
Are you sure about the fixed healing part? I'm sure it's just because there is only so much HP+healing bonus one can attain
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:52 PM
kuki can't heal more than what you do unlike say barbara who can increase the output with normal attacks
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:52 PM
So it seem to be in the same threshold
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:52 PM
that's the reason why usually people say "clam kuki is bad she can't reach 24k"
probably with pjc you can go a bit above 10k but that's still not gona reach the 24k or so
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:53 PM
hmm
Is it enough of a significance tho
Well you can put anything as long as it's well explain
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:56 PM
someone might need it idk lol
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:56 PM
I don't think you have elaborate on it enough for ppl to understand
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:56 PM
yea
i think this will be more significant if we have a character like kuki with fixed healing who also snapshots the healing
actually
noblesse can be snapshot
not sure where you would use that but
same with tenacity
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:58 PM
yeah Noblesse is much more useful
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:58 PM
yea
maybe in the future we'll have some character who snapshots the healing and people will see this
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 04:59 PM
It's good to keep in mind I guess
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 04:59 PM
does kokomi snapshot healing?
not that she needs it
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:00 PM
Her jellyfish does I think
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 05:00 PM
might be possible to run more atk, and use this to increase the healing beforehand
though you'd have to q first as well
maybe with the right timing
i'll add "or healing bonus scaling"
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:02 PM
Another char can use skill or burst, not nessesary have to be Kokomi
Someone with low cooldown
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 05:03 PM
yea
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:04 PM
Tenacity doesn't proc on animal I just check
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 05:04 PM
ok that might be hard then because of out of combat
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:06 PM
note that "incoming healing"(Maiden's 4pc buff) isn't the same as "healing bonus" it's 2 different things
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Sabby 🍔Tue, September 20, 2022 at 05:07 PM
oh yea
so it wouldn't do anything for kokomi anyway
just ohc
does that look a bit less small? lol
anyway i think this will be of use to people who do weird things like setting the grass on fire then using a teleport waypoint to proc instructor and swap etc
so hopefully something here can catch their eye
ping me if you need anything else added
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaTue, September 20, 2022 at 05:15 PM
I can't think of any rn
Let's just keep this ticket open for a few days incase of feedback and questions
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@Sabby 🍔 I have been thinking that if Noblesse buff isn't affected by original holder removing the set, then it must means that the Noblesse holder can be swapped out of the party while the remaining party members still retains the buff, turns out it's indeed true:
https://youtu.be/KL_KAoYUKd8
It's also applies for Maiden and VV (Tenacity buff duration expires before I can open the Party menu lol):
https://youtu.be/Tiq3AKjZ3JI
https://youtu.be/5we0ukdQtvQ
In the Kazuha vid I also notice his elemental dmg% buff persist after he leaves party, in fact I pretty sure Noblesse, Kazuha, Mona, Ayaka's buffs and debuffs persisting after leaving party have been utilize in damage showcases by whales for a while now
But this info is no where to be seen in tcl :OMEGALUL:
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:32 PM
hmmm
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:32 PM
I originally wanted to explore this futher but after compiling all chars that have skills, cons that can potentially persist after leaving party, there is just too much:NotLikeGanyu:
And a lot is locked behind C4+ too
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:33 PM
would have to do a tc commission probably
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:34 PM
you mean a theoryhunt?
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:34 PM
yea that
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:37 PM
Well I'm just gonna ignore the chars stuff for now, can you add those vids and update the finding too, just the artifact stuff
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:37 PM
yip
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:39 PM
This is actually even stronger than the artifact swap since you can just swap out an entire character after apply all the buffs with their skills+artifact set bonus
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:42 PM
yea
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:43 PM
You can just attach "the buffs remain even when the character equipping the set is swapped out of the team." after the first Noblesse sentence to avoid "In the case of" repetition
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No need to mention Kazuha and other since it can be it own ticket
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:46 PM
does the buff remain on characters that aren't in the team? no right?
say team 1 uses noblesse, swap to team 2
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:46 PM
Did you delete the unequipping any artifact part from the Noblesse sentence:OMEGALUL:
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:46 PM
oh uh
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:47 PM
No only characters that receive the buff in the first place
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:47 PM
kk
if they ever add sets to equip to characters per team slot that could be pretty powerful
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:49 PM
wdym?
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:49 PM
say you can pre-set a character to use noblesse in a team on team swap
and set the same character with emblem on team 2
if they ever add the option to link sets to teams
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:51 PM
lmao they haven't even add artifact load out you can wait 5+ years for that type of QoL :OMEGALUL:
keqw1
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:52 PM
i actually had a hoyolab post about adding more team slot options and now we have it

maybe i should make another post
pepela1
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:53 PM
Hyv be watching your back to stuff to update 👀
EZ1
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 04:53 PM
i had a post about 2fa as well
maybe they are
LOL
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 04:54 PM
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 05:03 PM
i'm making a post lmfao
pepela1
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 05:04 PM
Oh and add "or the character equipping the set is swapped out of the team" for VV in the finding too
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If you made a post asking hyv to give everyone a 5* standard chars of choice will they listen too :copium:
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 05:06 PM
lmfaooooo
i gotchu, next anniv
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 05:07 PM
Suuuurely it will work :keqexcited:
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 05:07 PM
eventually they'll do it as the game loses players and i can be like AHA! LOOK AT THIS POST FROM 2022
pepela1
it was me :EZ:
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 05:07 PM
lmaooo
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 05:20 PM
ok i rephrased the finding a bit
actually
dont need that
, but others are unaffected.

bit since we say it after
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 05:30 PM
I didn't test the ones that 4pc bonus doesn't remain after artifact removal for the swap out of party thing tho :keqWorry: (even though I'm sure it's true that swap out chars will also end those artifact effects too)
So moving "the character equipping the set is swapped out of the team" down to those that do remain will make more sense
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Sabby 🍔Wed, September 21, 2022 at 05:30 PM
yes
hmmge italics
lmao
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaWed, September 21, 2022 at 05:36 PM
Fancy af actually :keqexcited:
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LeahThu, September 22, 2022 at 11:54 AM
:hmmge: ayato c4
actually give me until rerun and hope I swipe luccsacc an extra con
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:00 PM
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:03 PM
added, and reworded the intro
is the note still true?
no right?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:05 PM
Collei burst hit the enemy after it has lost aggro so it didn't reset
So probably still true
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:05 PM
kk
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:11 PM
I tested swapping Instructor holder off party too and its true that the effect ends instantly
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All of the 5* set effects that don't remain after artifact swap are all self buff anyway so it doesn't matter, let's just add swapping out holder vids for the 4* support sets only for completion sake
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:17 PM
ye ok
i can record in like 10-15
unless you recorded that clip
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:18 PM
I just did a quick test
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:18 PM
oki
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:36 PM
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:39 PM
oh... i accidentally fed the tiny miracle pieces LOL

i think they drop from what i've been farming anyway so i'll record that once i have a new set
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:44 PM
Tiny Miracle is self buff right? Or is it whole party?
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:45 PM
oh
self buff
pepela1
saved
unknown.png
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:46 PM
I think we are pretty much done now
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:46 PM
yea
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TiBotThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:46 PM
This ticket has been renamed to Unequipping Artifacts and Holder leaving party 4pc bonus interactions by @( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:48 PM
too bad Tenacity can't be tested for holder leaves party
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:48 PM
yea too short

but so it wouldnt be relevant anyway
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:48 PM
yup
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:48 PM
OH
WE CAN
wait
no we cant
i was thinking snapshot it
but then it doesnt matter cause its snapshot
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:51 PM
Another option is co-op, the Tenacity holder leaves co-op right after their skill hit, and the host have to ultra instinct check their stats immediately
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:51 PM
lol
we'd need to get a 3rd person in
i'm on eu
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaThu, September 22, 2022 at 05:52 PM
I'm on asia :Gladge:
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Let's just forget about Tenacity lol
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Sabby 🍔Thu, September 22, 2022 at 05:54 PM
agree
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaFri, September 23, 2022 at 07:07 AM
Since we added holder swap out vids for 4pc bonus instantly removed sets, we should probably add "or when holder leaves party" to the first line in Finding too
And for the Significance part, add "Since Instructor and Petra 4pc effect will end instantly if holder leaves party, it's important to take into account while doing co-op damage showcases"
The whole Significance part may need rewording too
:theorycraft:
Hmm
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Sabby 🍔Fri, September 23, 2022 at 09:11 PM
oh didnt see
added what you wrote, will recheck in the morning for phrasing
i reworded a few things
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Reply to Avatar Sabby 🍔: i reworded a few things
( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, September 24, 2022 at 07:55 AM
"It is possible to avoid this with talents that deal delayed damage, such as Collei’s elemental skill."
I didn't use Collei's skill, it's her burst :keqWorry:
And the reason it works is because, her burst last 6s which keep refeshing the RES shred, long enough for me to teleport 2 times, allowing me time to switch team member or unequip artifact while the RES shred is still in effect
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Reply to Avatar ( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | Casdela:
"It is possible to avoid this with talents that deal delayed damage, such as Collei’s elemental skill."
Sabby 🍔Sat, September 24, 2022 at 07:57 AM
oh the burst lol
so wait why cant we do that with zhongli pillar and totm
i mean sure if you swap him out
hm yea nvm
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, September 24, 2022 at 08:01 AM
I could try again but the timing gonna very tight even with the teleport 2 times trick
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Sabby 🍔Sat, September 24, 2022 at 08:01 AM
yeah nah
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, September 24, 2022 at 08:03 AM
The note should says "In Single player" because co-op won't run into this issue
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Sabby 🍔Sat, September 24, 2022 at 08:03 AM
the whole thing?
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, September 24, 2022 at 08:04 AM
Yeah
Maybe "continuous damage" is a better wording than "delayed damage"
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Sabby 🍔Sat, September 24, 2022 at 08:06 AM
yes
isn't timer and duration the same
i think timers/effects maybe
k i think first sentence looks neater
hm maybe not
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, September 24, 2022 at 08:11 AM
Technically every artifact set has effect we should just keep timer
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Sabby 🍔Sat, September 24, 2022 at 08:11 AM
trying to find a word for the ocean hue bubble
cause its not just a buff
its a separate thing
altho its just a dot with animation
kinda
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( ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ) <3 | CasdelaSat, September 24, 2022 at 08:12 AM
Well I don't know what else to call it aside from bubble :pepela:
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Sabby 🍔Sat, September 24, 2022 at 08:12 AM
i was thinking summon but that sounds weird lol
leme check if library has a word for it
in kqm