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xianyun-basic-mechanics

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TiBotWed, January 31, 2024 at 02:15 AM

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Theory/Finding/Bug: Title of your submission

Evidence: Explanations with calculations and/or YouTube/Imgur proofs

Significance: Conclusion

🐟Wed, January 31, 2024 at 02:15 AM

Xianyun Basic Mechanics Ticket
Put all mechanics findings for Xianyun here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.

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Please use the following format for any basic mechanics submissions:

Finding:

Evidence:

Significance:

Mechanics of Interest
1. Gauges
2. ICD
3. Frames
4. Skill mechanics
5. Burst mechanics
6. Constellation Mechanics

𝔥𝔲𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔯Wed, January 31, 2024 at 03:48 AM

Finding: E alone generates no particles on a 9s cd, while E > M1 generates particles on a 12s cd.
Significance: Higher ER requirements because less than 24s rotation teams will only be able to use 1 Xianyun skill to generate particles for her.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/UtsCmrrI5vM

Xianyun: E alone generates no particles on a 9s cd, while E M1 gene...

Significance: Higher ER requirements because less than 24s rotation teams will only be able to use 1 Xianyun skill to generate particles for her.

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McpieWed, January 31, 2024 at 06:42 AM

Finding: Xianyun can plunge upwards with her E3 > M1
Significance: Mostly fluff, still trying to go infinite plunge but too hard to get it
Note: Feel free to upload to youtube/steal credit, I'm not doing it

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Finding: Xianyun's E1 can trigger Sacrificial Fragments (E3 does as well, haven't tested E2/E3>M1)
Significance: Speedrunning mostly if you don't have C1
Note: Feel free to upload to youtube/steal credit, I'm not doing it

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Finding: Xianyun's fall dmg mitigation has expiration date if you don't plunge (most likely expires the moment green trail disappears)
Significance: Fluff for overworld exploration
Note: Feel free to upload to youtube/steal credit, I'm not doing it

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Mcpie: Finding: Xianyun's fall dmg mitigation has expiration date if you don't plunge (most likely expires the moment green trail disappears)

McpieWed, January 31, 2024 at 06:49 AM

Finding: Xianyun's E3 > M1 plunge animation will expire roughly 2 seconds after casting
Significance: Fluff for overworld exploration
Note: Feel free to upload to youtube/steal credit, I'm not doing it

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Finding: Xianyun's gliding passive stacks with Red Feather Fan gadget (unclear if additive or multiplicative without exact measurements)
Evidence: Test was conducted using KMB with hold W -> tap space for jump into glide, no camera movements were used.
Video 1: Rosaria normal glide
Video 2: Rosaria with gadget glide
Video 3: Xianyun normal glide (movement speed bonus does not affect gliding speed)
Video 4: Xianyun with gadget glide
Image included contains rough gliding lines
Significance: Overworld exploration
Note: Feel free to upload to youtube/steal credit, I'm not doing it

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sincronicWed, January 31, 2024 at 03:18 PM

I'd like to add something, I'm lazy to make new ticket. If you stand still and cast E, it goes on cd after 5-6 sec, but if you move even a little, then it goes on cd after about 3-4 sec. Same for every stage of E.

And distance covered is bigger if you land on ground with each E, as if hopping

And you can move for a little between Es such as E1 dash dash E2 dash dash E3 dash dash M1

anticipasteThu, February 1, 2024 at 10:14 PM

Finding: After using her skill, Xianyun can use her special plunge even while on the ground.

Evidence: https://youtu.be/G7qK9iqLkXM?si=rh_sYaTuRMpMZ41T

Significance: You can plunge even if you’re not midair.

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laylaThu, February 1, 2024 at 11:55 PM

Finding: Xianyun's 3E does not group items on the ground

Evidence: https://youtu.be/I-pxFqn_WNc

Significance: overworld stuff

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Finding: Xianyun's 3E and 2E have minor grouping, 1E does not have grouping

Evidence: https://youtu.be/5DyaAfljX7A

Significance: Situationally useful for smaller mobs

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AnmaruFri, February 2, 2024 at 03:46 AM

Finding: Xianyun's 8 Adeptal Assistance stacks are shared between each player in Co-op

Evidence: https://youtu.be/vEv4TfjaEv0

Significance: Clarification; less plunges per player if everyone is plunging

note: its a small clarification for 'active character' consumption, so feel free to remove if its obvious enough in the existing talent wording to not warrant a finding sub

xianyun adeptal assistance stacks (coop)

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Finding: Xianyun's Charged Attack projectile travels along the ground

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK79_LBWqPI

Significance: Targeting implications on surfaces that aren't flat

stuff to explore: some weird stuff happens when you shoot the projectile off a cliff (https://youtu.be/vBlw-RWOVBQ) it seems to either follow the ground until a certain max angle or travel towards the ground within a set range, but im not too sure

xianyun CA projectile pathing

xianyun CA projectile pathing (cliff)

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gay fanfiction problemsSat, February 3, 2024 at 02:03 PM

Finding: Cloud Retainer Normal Attack is 1U of Anemo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/CrfdxVQCcqw
Significance: EGT stuff

CR NA is 1A of Anemo

Barbara NA applies 1A of hydro (0.8U after tax) at 3.26sec
Cloud Retainer swirls with her Normal Attack at 4.99sec
Hydro Aura disappears at 6.92sec, for a total of about 3.66sec of Hydro

Cloud Retainer NA must be 1U:
0.8U of Hyro at A decay rate will disappear after 9.5sec, Cloud Retainer's 1A NA takes away half a unit fora result of 0.3A of h...

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Finding: Cloud Retainer Burst is 1U of Anemo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/SsScy4k74OM
Significance: EGT stuff

Cloud Retainer Burst

Barbara applies 1A of hydro with her N1 at about 2.02sec
Cloud Retainer Burst hits ruin guard
Hydro disappears at about 5.58sec, total time with hydro is 3.56sec

Cloud Retainer Burst must be 1U:
0.8U of Hyro at A decay rate will disappear after 9.5sec, Cloud Retainer's Burst takes away half a unit fora result of 0.3A of hydro which will decay a...

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Finding: Cloud Retainer E final divebomb is 1U Anemo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/pyPIbmtY1q8
Significance: EGT stuff

Cloud Retainer E Final Hit is 1U Anemo

Barbara N1 applies 1A of Hydro at about 11.18 sec
Cloud Retainer E jump hits at about 12.81sec but it doesn't Swirl
Cloud Retainer E plunge hits at about 13.48sec and Swirls
Hydro expires at about 14.94sec, total of about 3.76sec of hydro

Cloud Retainer E dive-bomb must be 1U:
0.8U of Hyro at A decay rate will disappear after 9.5sec, Cloud Reta...

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nzpiefaceFri, February 9, 2024 at 12:12 AM

wtf is her q healing tick rate

laylaFri, February 9, 2024 at 06:02 AM

Finding: Starwicker's periodic healing is every ~2.5s
Evidence: https://youtu.be/bYKeDm9E30w
Significance: fulfilling nz's curiosity

healing interval

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crown impoverishedTue, February 20, 2024 at 10:07 PM

Finding: While under the effect of her C6, Xianyun will not generate any particles. If Xianyun's C6 state expires after a Cloud Transmogrification has already been entered, the Driftcloud Wave of this E state does not generate particles, and also does not consume a skill charge.

Evidence: video below

Significance: C6 bricks Xianyun EQE funneling to another unit smoge

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sincronicFri, March 1, 2024 at 11:45 PM

i'll just add you one stuff im not sure was mentioned, her charged attack follows terain up until certain angle, in which case it straight up goes thru the wall/slope. You can easily test it by firing a charged shot through house into enemy behind it

cara | umineko catbox coffinMon, March 11, 2024 at 06:09 PM

finding: xy frames
evidence: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LkWYcksW1T2JpyMiJsa24O7rZTFWG5HZoQ8rtvD_x7U/edit
significance: frame

Normal/Charge Attacks

Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial 3
Release,N1,12,13,12,no hitlag,video:,https://youtu.be/HhyU2N8RlLA
N2,14,14,14,no hitlag,counted by: caramielle.
N3,34,34,33,no hitlag
N4,38,37,38,no hitlag
CA,56,56,56,no hitlag
Cancels,Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial...

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sincronic: i'll just add you one stuff im not sure was mentioned, her charged attack follows terain up until certain angle, in which case it straight up goes thru the wall/slope. You can easily test it by firing a charged shot through house into enemy behind it

pkach | xilo-less noille fanSun, March 17, 2024 at 08:41 PM

need a youtube video of this

sincronicSun, March 17, 2024 at 09:05 PM

Was hoping one of yall would do it

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cqlqrsThu, May 9, 2024 at 02:47 AM

Gauges
ICD
Frames
Skill mechanics
-> tick rates
-> particles
Burst mechanics
-> tick rates
-> particles
Constellation Mechanics

Gauges:

Finding: Cloud Retainer Normal Attack is 1U of Anemo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/CrfdxVQCcqw
Significance: EGT stuff

Finding: Cloud Retainer E final divebomb is 1U Anemo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/pyPIbmtY1q8
Significance: EGT stuff

Finding: Cloud Retainer Burst is 1U of Anemo
Evidence: https://youtu.be/SsScy4k74OM
Significance: EGT stuff

from puffin.9920

CR NA is 1A of Anemo

Barbara NA applies 1A of hydro (0.8U after tax) at 3.26sec
Cloud Retainer swirls with her Normal Attack at 4.99sec
Hydro Aura disappears at 6.92sec, for a total of about 3.66sec of Hydro

Cloud Retainer NA must be 1U:
0.8U of Hyro at A decay rate will disappear after 9.5sec, Cloud Retainer's 1A NA takes away half a unit fora result of 0.3A of h...

Cloud Retainer E Final Hit is 1U Anemo

Barbara N1 applies 1A of Hydro at about 11.18 sec
Cloud Retainer E jump hits at about 12.81sec but it doesn't Swirl
Cloud Retainer E plunge hits at about 13.48sec and Swirls
Hydro expires at about 14.94sec, total of about 3.76sec of hydro

Cloud Retainer E dive-bomb must be 1U:
0.8U of Hyro at A decay rate will disappear after 9.5sec, Cloud Reta...

Cloud Retainer Burst

Barbara applies 1A of hydro with her N1 at about 2.02sec
Cloud Retainer Burst hits ruin guard
Hydro disappears at about 5.58sec, total time with hydro is 3.56sec

Cloud Retainer Burst must be 1U:
0.8U of Hyro at A decay rate will disappear after 9.5sec, Cloud Retainer's Burst takes away half a unit fora result of 0.3A of hydro which will decay a...

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Frames:

finding: xy frames
evidence: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LkWYcksW1T2JpyMiJsa24O7rZTFWG5HZoQ8rtvD_x7U/edit
significance: frame

from caramielle.

Normal/Charge Attacks

Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial 3
Release,N1,12,13,12,no hitlag,video:,https://youtu.be/HhyU2N8RlLA
N2,14,14,14,no hitlag,counted by: caramielle.
N3,34,34,33,no hitlag
N4,38,37,38,no hitlag
CA,56,56,56,no hitlag
Cancels,Trial 1,Trial 2,Trial...

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Burst Healing Tick Rate:

Finding: Starwicker's periodic healing is every ~2.5s
Evidence: https://youtu.be/bYKeDm9E30w
Significance: fulfilling nz's curiosity

from clevernt

healing interval

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𝔥𝔲𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔯: Finding: E alone generates no particles on a 9s cd, while E > M1 generates particles on a 12s cd.

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:34 PM

Could you upload this to yt?

sincronic: I'd like to add something, I'm lazy to make new ticket. If you stand still and cast E, it goes on cd after 5-6 sec, but if you move even a little, then it goes on cd after about 3-4 sec. Same for every stage of E.

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:35 PM

Do you have video for this?

crown impoverished: Finding: While under the effect of her C6, Xianyun will not generate any particles. If Xianyun's C6 state expires after a Cloud Transmogrification has already been entered, the Driftcloud Wave of this E state does not generate particles, and also does not consume a skill charge.

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:37 PM

could you upload to yt

sincronic: i'll just add you one stuff im not sure was mentioned, her charged attack follows terain up until certain angle, in which case it straight up goes thru the wall/slope. You can easily test it by firing a charged shot through house into enemy behind it

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:37 PM

video?

sincronicFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:51 PM

i don't have, but fine ill make one

the E delay and charged attacks ye?

sincronic: the E delay and charged attacks ye?

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:54 PM

pls yes

sincronicFri, May 10, 2024 at 12:56 PM

also regarding distance of her E horizontally

it depends on how close you are to ground

ah wait, for the charged attack i need to test angle right?

i'll just do the thru wall thing, i dont have enough braincells to test angles

if you only knew how complicated her cooldown is

Mcpie: Finding: Xianyun's gliding passive stacks with Red Feather Fan gadget (unclear if additive or multiplicative without exact measurements)

🐟Fri, May 10, 2024 at 01:26 PM

Video: https://youtu.be/tVts1Jl9DVo

Xianyun Feather Fan and MVspeed testing

sincronic: if you only knew how complicated her cooldown is

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 01:27 PM

if it doesn't feel simple enough to belong here it can be a separate ticket that's ok

sincronicFri, May 10, 2024 at 01:28 PM

nah its fineee, i'm trying to add text to vid to explain a thing or two that i noticed

but cant figure out how cause i dont do edits xd

Mcpie: Finding: Xianyun's E3 > M1 plunge animation will expire roughly 2 seconds after casting

🐟Fri, May 10, 2024 at 01:36 PM

Video: https://youtu.be/jCDNSt46ytk

XianyunNotInfinitePlunge

Mcpie: Finding: Xianyun's fall dmg mitigation has expiration date if you don't plunge (most likely expires the moment green trail disappears)

🐟Fri, May 10, 2024 at 01:37 PM

Video: https://youtu.be/qEQGCTPwpaA

XiangyunFallDamage

Mcpie: Finding: Xianyun's E1 can trigger Sacrificial Fragments (E3 does as well, haven't tested E2/E3>M1)

🐟Fri, May 10, 2024 at 01:40 PM

Video: https://youtu.be/fdOibcKHD7I

XianyunE12Sacrificial

Mcpie: Finding: Xianyun can plunge upwards with her E3 > M1

🐟Fri, May 10, 2024 at 01:41 PM

Video: https://youtu.be/jdoDHmTVboE

XianyunUpwardsPlunge

sincronicFri, May 10, 2024 at 01:59 PM

gonna upload cooldown and charged attack soon, and ill make one short one with distance too

should be done in <30min

target the mustache hat: if it doesn't feel simple enough to belong here it can be a separate ticket that's ok

sincronicFri, May 10, 2024 at 02:22 PM

Charged attack thru wall:
https://youtu.be/IGK2_2H_T6g
Cooldown timers based on moving/standing still after using skill:
https://youtu.be/LxxZ27fVhFE
Distance covered based on vertical distance from ground:
https://youtu.be/wBM3_NtkXLs

Xianyun firing charged attack through walls

Xianyun Cooldowns

Xianyun Distance

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hope that helps

sincronic: but cant figure out how cause i dont do edits xd

target the mustache hatFri, May 10, 2024 at 02:26 PM

use yt built in editor maybe it's very user friendly ime

oh nvm u figured it out cool ty

sincronicFri, May 10, 2024 at 02:27 PM

maybe next time, i used filmora

target the mustache hat: could you upload to yt

crown impoverishedFri, May 10, 2024 at 06:27 PM

https://youtu.be/5y9fc5iEnSI

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sincronic: I'd like to add something, I'm lazy to make new ticket. If you stand still and cast E, it goes on cd after 5-6 sec, but if you move even a little, then it goes on cd after about 3-4 sec. Same for every stage of E.

target the mustache hatThu, May 16, 2024 at 11:58 PM

still need:
gauge (CA? E pass by hits? starwicker?)
ICD
snapshot (healing, starwicker?)

oh oops

that wasn't meant to be a reply sorry

sincronicFri, May 17, 2024 at 12:01 AM

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🐟Sun, May 19, 2024 at 04:15 PM

Finding: Xianyun Gauges and ICD

Skyladder: 0U (all 3 jumps)
Driftcould Wave: 1U (All stages)
Burst activation: 1U
Starwicker: 1U
CA: 1U

ICD:
Skill: uh... none I guess?
Driftcloud Wave: No observable
Burst: activation: no observable
Starwicker: Appears to be standard
CA: No observable

Evidence: https://youtu.be/jSwyZcxgOlc
Timestamps:
00:00-00:15 - none of the 3 skyladders trigger swirl
00:16-00:19 - it applies 0U Anemo as it can be used to collect dandelions
00:20: burst activation and Skywicker 1U
00:23-00:42: Starwicker ICD
00:42: Driftcloud Wave ICD and GU
00:52: CA GU and ICD

Significance:
Gauges and ICD

Xianyun Gauges and ICD

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Finding: Xianyun Starwicker does not snapshot

Evidence: https://youtu.be/xZS5A6DZz1A

Significance: Elemental Burst Mechanics

Xianyun Snapshot

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🐟: Finding: Xianyun Starwicker does not snapshot

target the mustache hatSun, May 19, 2024 at 04:18 PM

can you do healing too i forgot it before

🐟Sun, May 19, 2024 at 04:18 PM

mfw you edit healing as I do this

target the mustache hatSun, May 19, 2024 at 04:18 PM

I FORGOR

🐟Sun, May 19, 2024 at 04:19 PM

I hope kokomi still has TTDS...

Finding: Xianyun Starwicker Healing does not snapshot

Evidence: https://youtu.be/D8cJEJg6zh8

Significance:
Elemental Burst Mechanics

Xianyun Continuous Healing Does Not Snapshot

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FlinserbusFri, August 30, 2024 at 02:44 AM

Finding: Xianyun can uses her Skyladder while in Glider

Evidence: https://youtu.be/QhS6SZZV7To

Significance: Better understanding of her Skill

skyladder while in glider

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