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AyzelMon, May 30, 2022 at 04:44 AM
Yelan Basic Mechanics ticket. Put all mechanics findings for Yelan here. This ticket is NOT meant to be for discussion.

Yelan Character Page: https://library.keqingmains.com/yelan

Here are some questions we'd like answered:

1) ICD and Gauges for all elemental attacks
2) C2 proc ICD and Gauge
3) what does "out of combat" mean - does it mean truly out of combat, or just off field?
4) how strong is the suction on her skill?
5) does skill CD start on cast or when her skill ends?
6) particles?
7) can her burst be buffered like Xingqiu's?
8) does her A4 buff reset on swap?
9) does her A4 DMG% buff snapshot?
10) does C6 benefit from CA DMG% buffs?
11) Can C6 attacks proc normal attack effects?
Yelan
A mysterious person who claims to work for the Ministry of Civil Affairs, but is a
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who is yelan
idk who that is
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cxycxyTue, May 31, 2022 at 02:51 AM
Gauges

Breakthrough Barb = 1U
E = 1U
Q Initial = 2U
Exquisite Throws = 1U
Evidence: https://youtu.be/kVB-pt8txps

ICD

Yelan E, Q Initial and Throws have Separate ICDs
Evidence: https://youtu.be/guf_AFoAApc

Yelan Exquisite Throws are subjected to ~2s/3-hit ICD mechanic
Evidence: https://youtu.be/7JunyuLUQLo
1st clip shows swirl triggers at 5.12s and 7.20s with just 2 throws which indicates that the timer ICD is below 2.08s and the standard 2.5s, while the 2nd clip shows only 1 swirl trigger with 3 throws whose damage numbers popped up on screen at 14.03, 15.70 and 15.92 respectively, which indicates that the timer ICD is higher than 1.89s. This is mostly here just to somewhat support the findings from the datamines

Skill

Yelan E Generates 4 Particles
Evidence: https://youtu.be/DOQQVa0IukM

Yelan Lifeline Throws have Separate Internal Timer from the ones triggered with Coordinated Attacks
Evidence: https://youtu.be/jl7_OraaGZ0

A1

Yelan A1 is Additive to other sources of HP%
Evidence: https://youtu.be/QCEzeXwXgDQ

A4

Yelan A4 can not be Snapshotted and Only Applies on Active Character
Evidence: https://youtu.be/zB87-FdzBq8
Buff is lost on the deployable once the character that summoned it is swapped out, and is regained once swapped back in

Aqua Simulacra

Passive can not be Snapshotted
Evidence: https://youtu.be/rdYJSLgYo8E

Enemy Detection Range has a radius of ~3 Abyss Tiles
Evidence: https://youtu.be/Lz5Bv35kfHQ
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AyzelTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:05 AM
:suske:
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peekaysTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:08 AM
:BASED:
fastest tester in the west
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traviscrtTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:13 AM
Should double check with live evidence tho just in case
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beastboy197Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:27 AM
finding: Yelan skill cd begins when she exits the rapid movement state
evidence: https://youtu.be/0AeFOQwp2Os
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VladTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:32 AM
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VladTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:40 AM
:Clueless:
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kei74Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:43 AM
finding: Yelan's breakthrough barb doesn't reset while in combat upon spending 5s+ off field
evidence:
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rarepossumTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:54 AM
I don't think the "resets on swap" is accurate form your video. Ganyu's damage remains increased wehn she swaps back, but it loses it shen shes off field, applies to active character only is probably better
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cxycxyTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:55 AM
reworded, i just realized that "resets" means something else yeah, does this work now?
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johnalon | Raiden rerun when?Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:57 AM
"cant be snapshotted and only applies on active character" something like that
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beastboy197Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:59 AM
finding: you can collect things during yelan's skill, and you can regen stamina during it
evidence: https://youtu.be/fwSbT_vBAfY, https://youtu.be/RNmrfeG1Qpk
significance: yelan is good for exploration
finding: the fourth attack in yelan's normal attack sequence appears behind her, and can be blocked when standing next to a wall
evidence: https://youtu.be/g7hdRFk-bF0
significance: dont stand next to a wall when normal attacking with yelan
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YumeTue, May 31, 2022 at 04:46 AM
Finding: Yelan can gain Breakthrough Barb while charging a non-Breakthrough Barb shot
Evidence: Video attached, will upload to youtube and edit the post later
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MiliM | 100k white dmg PhyschlTue, May 31, 2022 at 04:47 AM
cd mechanic of c1: https://youtu.be/_iIkbNAYa5M
Finding: cd of 1st E starts after exit cd of 2nd E is added after the cd of 1st E (appears to start on cast but it's simply buffered)
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nassbotTue, May 31, 2022 at 04:58 AM
finding: yelan skill can't hit animals nor parametric transformer :KeqSad:
https://imgur.com/6vuMalX
https://imgur.com/I6bAGHa

significance: literally unplayable :keqstare:
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MiliM | 100k white dmg PhyschlTue, May 31, 2022 at 05:42 AM
Proof of 130ER C1 yelan self battery and forward vape showcase
https://youtu.be/mkSrTgOCiMY
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redvader8Tue, May 31, 2022 at 07:09 AM
Finding: C4 mechanic proc healing on team based on the overheal mechanic
Evidence: video below
Significance: provides a minor amount of healing for party that can be used to heal characters out of combat. Could pair well with Zhongli C6 against mechanics that ignore shields to damage characters like Wolflord/hounds
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VladTue, May 31, 2022 at 07:11 AM
Please try to respect the
Finding:
Evidence:
Significance:
format when posting here, makes it easier, thanks :Danki:
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nassbotTue, May 31, 2022 at 07:39 AM
finding: yelan burst is dynamic
evidence: https://imgur.com/qp5sTlL

hello embed? :keqstare:
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shaft_headtiltTue, May 31, 2022 at 08:20 AM
Findings:
- can stack C4 on a single enemy
- stacks refresh timer
- C4 keeps your remaining HP % stable
Evidence: https://youtu.be/w9OwBJAjBPY
Significance: can stack c4 on a single enemy, stacks refresh timer and c4 keeps your remaining hp % stable :Hmm:
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Pablos│MC EnjoyerTue, May 31, 2022 at 10:03 AM
Finding: Yelan's Lifeline can be i-framed by NPC
Evidence: by OkCode https://clips.twitch.tv/WonderfulComfortableBadgerDogFace-Nv-Rv80lyl4KCVsv
Significance: NPCs can escape lifeline entanglement in certain situations, damage is not dealt, energy is still produced.

Also skill issue :pepela:
OkCode - Skill Issue
Watch OkCode's clip titled "Skill Issue"
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mgr_Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:37 PM
Finding: Yelan's hold E speed is affected by movement speed
Evidence: https://streamable.com/4filr4
Significance: Longer distance travel in exploration and in combat
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blindforestsTue, May 31, 2022 at 02:50 PM
Finding: Yelan's E doesn't apply Hydro to Pyro Lector's Furnace or produce particles upon exiting
Evidence: https://i.imgur.com/JDy6W8r.mp4
Significance: Something to keep in mind while using Yelan to break the Lector's shield
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KurticusZen | tiktok TC-erTue, May 31, 2022 at 03:00 PM
Finding: yelan boobs don't have jiggle physics
Evidence: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/v1nmfx/_/ (I am not the original poster)
Significance: account for bra for 3 sizes tc
r/Genshin_Impact - Yelan doesn't have jiggle physics
1,425 votes and 285 comments so far on Reddit
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( ,, •̀ ⤙ •́ ,,)Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:50 PM
Finding: Yelan E is faster than Sayu E
Evidence: Videos show Yelan and Sayu covering same track, C1 Yelan covers the same distance ~1s faster which by implication makes her E faster
Yelan: 57.450 - 48.450 = 9.000
Sayu: 53.733 - 43.666 = 10.067

PS: too lazy to upload videos to yt or imgur, feel free to do it
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never2bigTue, May 31, 2022 at 05:53 PM
Finding: Just corroborating this with another example. Bot is Jean C2+Anemo res, Mid is Anemo res, and top is no buffs.
Evidence: https://streamable.com/wz5u2x
Significance: Faster travel and more distance covered.
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strissTue, May 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM
Finding: C4 mechanic does not actually act as a 'heal', contrary to what this finding suggests.
Evidence: Chip damage on Zhongli still remains when C4 buff expires.
Significance: Rejecting the implications of the aforementioned/replied finding; it cannot be used to "heal characters out of combat".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-kNr5prIiU
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wrong pingWed, June 1, 2022 at 04:30 AM
Finding: Yelan's burst procs have variable time intervals between each hit

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ5KTeeHfsU
attached is a sampling of frame intervals which can be seen in this video between burst hits 1 and 2, and hits 2 and 3 (not comprehensive, other intervals may be possible)

Significance: Affects number of burst waves necessary to trigger Elegy passive, hydro application timing, etc.
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beastboy197Wed, June 1, 2022 at 05:55 AM
finding: yelan's burst can be buffered like xq (if she is in aa animation when her burst ICD ends, it will fire another wave)
evidence: (didnt use macro but its kinda obvious) https://youtu.be/Am5RvDTToN4
significance: further evidence she is a xq clone more understanding of her kit

i hope this is what you meant by buffering otherwise im going to look really stupid
artesians1
finding: yelan's burst homes in on enemies?
evidence: https://youtu.be/_1BcfBRbljU
significance: xq cant do this (probably), POWERCREEP

there was no damage on signora but it looked like it homed in, needs further testing probably
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sirderpyherpWed, June 1, 2022 at 11:42 AM
Finding: When a wave from Exquisite Throw is procced just as Yelan's burst duration ends, it may be cut off and not shoot the entire wave.
Evidence: https://i.imgur.com/oSuO58A.mp4
Significance: Less damage and hydro application
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alararThu, June 2, 2022 at 06:36 AM
Guess I'll do the C6 stuff....

10) Does C6 benefit from CA DMG% buffs?
Finding: Yes, based on testing with Rust (CA DMG -10%).
Evidence: https://i.imgur.com/p83cOwp.jpg

11) Can C6 attacks proc normal attack effects?
Finding: No, or at least, not Mitternachts Waltz's passive (NA hits -> +Skill DMG%).
Evidence: https://i.imgur.com/O4oXhL5.jpg
Significance: May need additional testing? It's late, and I'm having trouble thinking up other normal attack effects.

Can C6 attacks proc Beidou's burst?
Finding: Yes.
Evidence: https://youtu.be/upPA9i6Jth8
Yelan C6 and Beidou
Yelan's C6 hits trigger Beidou's burst procs.
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shaft_headtiltThu, June 2, 2022 at 10:57 PM
finding: she can escape mirrors maiden prison
significance: if you find one let me know
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bobosawrThu, June 2, 2022 at 11:36 PM
if she can do the same with the ice prison mechanics then its helpful in abyss if that ever comes back
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BabelTea DO YOU KYOTOFri, June 3, 2022 at 01:06 AM
ice lavachurl actually has ice prison skill this cycle, definitely handy
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rei69Fri, June 3, 2022 at 04:24 PM
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Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betFri, June 3, 2022 at 08:09 PM
Ok but who’s gonna open the ticket to find out how to zoom in into character’s, how do I put it, appealing traits?

Because I don’t have Zhongli
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Magnus Artifex | Xilo C2 betFri, June 3, 2022 at 10:25 PM
Sorry wait I am the weirdo?
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paichlearSat, June 4, 2022 at 01:21 AM
Frames (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AFuUjLFCVGQeX49v6_RomOMUzSjn_lrImYj2Pkp_Bho/edit?usp=sharing)

N1: 14
N2: 29
N3: 54
N4-1: 88
N4-2: 102
With recovery: 142

Physical CA: 15 (25 with recovery), from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/187T-SngEZUUordjY_K_tF_DdvHjQju9CoBJdp2eJOis/edit?usp=sharing
Elemental CA: 86 (96 with recovery), source same as above
Breakthrough Barb: 32 (42 with recovery)

Press E: 40
Hold E: 42~257

Q Cast: 92
Q Energy: 10 (64~67ms ping, from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iLUT8Tafwih3RZbNlA59w6-x5NQdgPvsMc86b7W92DQ/edit?usp=sharing)
Q CD: 1
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Rathalos | ask me abt travelerSun, June 5, 2022 at 10:46 AM
this has been known for many days now, just sharing evidence for documentation

Finding: Yelan's Exquisite Throw can proc very early into an auto attack animation, unlike Xingqiu's Rain Swords. It is possible to perform "n0" inputs to trigger her Burst without triggering XQ's Swords.

Evidence:
https://imgur.com/L0Zdsff [n0 Kaeya demo]
https://imgur.com/JNLQbRH [Xingqiu & Yelan ft. Xiao]

Significance:
Yelan rotations can feasibly perform n0 inputs to proc her Burst. May not work in Xingqiu-Yelan comps. Less frames needed to trigger her Burst means easier maneuverability during fights, and cancelling attack strings will not result into a DPS loss from her Burst.
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Apollo | Kaeya Fan #1Mon, June 6, 2022 at 07:35 AM
could you check if the "heal" procs 4clam set
I think that will settle if it heals or not
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kourinnMon, June 6, 2022 at 11:06 PM
Edit: woops, this was already found by @cxycxy

Credit to @555981891300491274

Finding:
Exquisite Throw ICD is 3 hits / 2.0 seconds

Evidence:
https://youtu.be/Fws-ELVfpVc

Significance:
Yelan's Burst has slightly higher hydro application than otherwise expected. There is potential synergy with specific character's normal attacks and/or specific attack speeds.
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peekaysTue, June 7, 2022 at 12:56 AM
first message in the ticket :kleekpoint:
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BabelTea DO YOU KYOTOWed, June 8, 2022 at 01:35 AM
you could try to make use of it by initally hitting the enemy from far away then close the gap so that the following attacks land earlier a little before the 2s mark,
dash out every odd second, dash in every even second :kleek:
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HowL | WelpWed, June 8, 2022 at 01:58 AM
:hmmge: Is somebody interested in testing if Yelan A4 buff can be extended with hitlag with respect to the duration of the Exquisite Throwing?
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aftermathrarFri, June 10, 2022 at 01:55 AM
it's not extended. i was doing some testing with yelan's A4 duration buffing itto's combo and it falls off when you'd expect it to if there was no hitlag

the good thing is that the timer seems to start near the end of the burst animation, so you're not losing a whole bunch of time while stuck in a cutscene
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beastboy197Sun, June 12, 2022 at 11:10 PM
finding: yelan can standing plunge
evidence: https://imgur.com/a/DG3JMjy
significance: idk it looks cool
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makeway4pkMon, June 13, 2022 at 05:23 AM
everytime?
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aftermathrarMon, June 13, 2022 at 08:44 AM
yelan's Q timer seems to start on frame 73 of her burst, which lines up with the white flash during the cutscene, or this frame when you're not in the cutscene:
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so there's about 0.3s of the A4 buff duration that's used up before you're able to input to swap characters

going 15s from that frame, the animation for the dice disappearing starts, which should mark the end of it. i wasn't able to find extension or lingering effects

raw vid attached (it's just using Q in front of zl pillar and standing for 16s)
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spbm10Wed, June 15, 2022 at 09:35 PM
Finding: You can double prefunnel energy into Yelan
Evidence: https://youtu.be/1s9cJfmfRUM
Significance: Sacrificing nearly no time at all, you are able to lower Yelan's energy requirements significantly and allow for more offensive stats, possibly being a worthy trade.
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Rathalos | ask me abt travelerThu, June 23, 2022 at 10:04 AM
Finding:
Yelan's full Breakthrough Barb shot has a 0dmg hit on the arrow itself, on top of the actual Breakthrough Barb damage.

Evidence:
https://youtu.be/TyNucHcGuyI
If a Breakthrough Barb hits the tree, two fruits fall down. If not aimed directly, only one fruit falls down.

Significance:
0 dmg hits. Mostly fluff.
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nzpiefaceFri, July 1, 2022 at 09:29 AM
do you have polar star?
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Rathalos | ask me abt travelerFri, July 1, 2022 at 09:31 AM
no
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Schmidi [AR57|EU]Sun, July 10, 2022 at 04:25 PM
For completion's sake and becuase I got asked to post this, pertaining to 8)

Finding: Yelan's A4 does not reset on character swap and is not tied to a character

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXP5h-q02pc

Significance: Using Yelan's burst early into a rotation and using hard hitting abilities towards the end of the burst might be advantageous
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TiBotThu, August 18, 2022 at 07:10 PM
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